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hey soporific, Autopatcher is a great piece of work - thanks for that! i've had some troubles with it and wonder if anyone can help... - i recently revived an old laptop (toshiba satellite 4030 cdt - celeron, 128 mb ram) with a new HDD and a fresh install of win98se - i started out with win98 first edition, but when i tried to install win98se over it, the install failed. so, i removed windows completely from the hard drive and installed win98se from scratch. then i downloaded autopatcher ver 1.95. the first thing i did was run the report to see what was missing. the report said that 142 (of the total 178) patches/hotfixes/etc. were not installed. i assume the rest were included as part of win98se?? - i configured autopatcher to install nearly all of the available fixes. after i ran it, i reran the report, and it showed 108 fixes were not installed, and 40 fixes were successfully installed (108+40=148 vs. 142 reported by the log - math doesn't quite add up here ??). i've since done some manual installs to get IE up to 6.0 SP1 and fix the windows update bug. - i was disappointed to see that the win98-to-me update didn't install - of the fixes that WERE installed, WinMP 9 doesn't work (double click on icon, nothing happens). my main questions are: 1. should i run autopatcher again? 2. how do i fix the WinMP 9 install? 3. how do i get it to install the missing patches, especially the win98-to-me? 4. should i uninstall autopatcher, reinstall and rerun? 5. will autopatcher 1.96 address these issues? thanks in advance for any help/advice! ps - the log file is posted below - remember the 1st log report is BEFORE i ran autopatcher, the 2nd one is after... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report for Auto-Patcher v1.95 Preview Release 2 generated on Wednesday, 11 April 2007 - the time is now: 3:31am - the most recent report is at the end of this log file. The following list of updates were not found on this computer: *** System Stability Hotfixes module: 1. q239887: Windows 98 Second Edition Shutdown Supplement 2. q240075: USB Devices May Not Work in Windows 98 Second Edition 3. q253697: Hotfix for USB Enumeration Problems on Fast Computers 4. q260067: Mapped Drives Update 5. q273017: IDE Hard Drive Cache Package for Windows 98se 6. q276602: Hotfix for Device Manager Reports Code 10 for Device Bug 7. q285189: Dial-Up Networking 1.4 Upgrade for Windows 98se 8. q306453: Hotfix for bug in Usbhub.sys with USB Devices 9. q318307: Update for VMOUSE.VXD 10. 98Updsys: Unofficial CPU Microcode Update *** Recommended Tweaks module: 11. StopLogo: the Disable Boot Logo tweak 12. DOSHere: Add 'Command Prompt Here' to Right-Click Menu 13. TweakUI: TweakUI 1.33 *** Windows Installer module: 14. Install2: Windows Installer v2 *** Data Access & Jet Engine module: 15. MDAC281: MS Data Access Components 2.8 sp1 16. kb837001: Hotfix for Vulnerability in the Jet Database Engine 17. kb927779: Unofficial MDAC 2.8 sp1 update (with sqlsrv32.dll) *** Internet Explorer module: 18. IE6sp1: Internet Explorer 6 sp1 19. q322656: Msinfo32.exe causes an Access Denied error in Internet Explorer 20. q329115: Hotfix for Certificate Validation Flaw Vulnerability 21. kb816093: Hotfix for Vulnerability in Microsoft Virtual Machine 22. kb816362: Hotfix for Bug in Mshta.exe With Multiple Modal Dialog Boxes 23. kb824220: Hotfix for Images Not Appearing in some Web Pages in Internet Explorer 24. kb837009: Official Cumulative Update for Outlook Express 6 sp1 25. kb870669: Hotfix for vulnerability in ADOB Stream in Internet Explorer 6 26. kb886677: Unofficial Hotfix for DBCS Corruption in MLANG.DLL 27. kb888113: Hotfix for Hyperlink Object Library Vulnerability 28. kb893627: Hotfix for Bug with Group Policies Not Applied in Internet Explorer 29. kb896156: Hotfix for bug when removing an HTML element from a Web page 30. kb891781: Hotfix for DHTML ActiveX Control Vulnerability 31. kb905495: Hotfix for Vulnerability in the Windows FTP Client 32. kb908519: Hotfix for vulnerability in Embedded Web Fonts 33. kb913433: Hotfix for Vulnerabilities in Flash Player 34. kb916281: Official Cumulative Update for Internet Explorer 6 sp1 35. kb918439: Hotfix for Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering 36. kb923694: Unofficial Cumulative Update for Outlook Express 6 sp1 37. IE_Audio: Internet Explorer Navigation Sound Update 38. DX_Media: Unofficial DirectX Media Update for IE 6 sp1 39. HTMLHelp: Unofficial HTML Help Update (HHCTRL.OCX 5.2.3790.620) 40. HTMLCert: Unofficial HTML Help Expired Security Certificate Update 41. kb929969: Hotfix for Vulnerability in Vector Markup Language *** Windows Media Player module: 42. WinMP7: Windows Media Player legacy files 43. WinMP9: Windows Media Player 9 & Codecs 44. kb817885: Hotfix for bug in the WMP9 OCX Control with Netscape Browsers 45. kb891122: Unofficial Update for Windows Media DRM-enabled players 46. kb911564: Hotfix for Vulnerability in WMP Plug-in in Non-M$ Web Browsers 47. kb917734: Hotfix for Yet Another Vulnerability in Windows Media Player 48. kb920670: Unofficial Hyperlink Object Security Vulnerability Fix 49. kb923689: Hotfix for Vulnerability in Windows Media Format *** DirectX 9 module: 50. DirectX9: DirectX 9.0c (December 2006) *** Critical Security Hotfixes module: 51. q245729: Hotfix for File Access URL Vulnerability 52. q258765: Hotfix for Remote Update Option Vulnerability 53. q269239: Hotfix for NetBIOS Vulnerability May Cause Duplicate Name 54. q269388: Hotfix for Spoofed Route Pointer Vulnerability 55. q273991: Share Level Password Update 56. q273727: Hotfix for Malformed IPX NMPI Packet Vulnerability 57. q274113: Hotfix for WebTV Vulnerability 58. q313829: Hotfix for Unchecked Buffer in Windows Shell Vulnerability 59. q314941: Hotfix for Vulnerability in Universal Plug 'n' Play 60. q323172: Hotfix for Certificate Enrollment Control Vulnerability 61. q323255: Hotfix for Windows Help Facility Vulnerability 62. q329048: Hotfix for File Decompression Function Vulnerability 63. OLEDBUp: OLE DB Provider for Internet Publishing Update 64. TelnetUp: Hotfix for Buffer overrun in Telnet Vulnerability 65. kb811630: Hotfix for HTML Help Security Vulnerability 66. kb823559: Hotfix for Buffer Overrun In HTML Converter Vulnerability 67. kb873374: Hotfix for Vulnerability in JPEG Processing 68. kb891711: Unofficial Hotfix for Cursor and Icon Format Handling Vulnerability 69. kb917344: Hotfix for Vulnerability in Microsoft JScript 70. kb918547: Unofficial Hotfix for Vulnerability in Graphics Rendering Engine 71. UCrypt9x: Unofficial 128-bit SSL Encryption Security Fixes 72. kb926247: Unofficial Hotfix for Vulnerability in SNMP Service *** Critical & Recommended System Updates module: 73. q240896: Hotfix for Invalid Page Fault Bug in OpenGL Programs (OPENGL32.DLL) 74. q259253: Hotfix for bug in ACPI with Anti-Virus Software 75. q269601: Windows Driver Model Audio Update for Windows 98se 76. q274175: Hotfix for bug with More Than Eight Folder Levels on CD-ROM 77. q280448: Update for PCI.vxd 78. RootCUp: Root Certificate Update February 2007 (11.0.2195.0) 79. q323455: Directory Services Client Update (NEGOTIAT.DLL 5.0.2195.4784) 80. Unicows: Layer for Unicode version 1.1.3790.0 81. OpenType: OpenType Font Shell Extension 82. UNotepad: Unofficial Update for Windows Notepad 83. UsbmteUp: USB, 1394 & Mass Storage Device Drivers (q242975 Update) 84. OleLibUp: OLE Automation Libraries 2.40.4522 update (OLEDLG.DLL 5.0.1601.0) 85. 98TShoot: Unofficial Windows 98se HTML Help Troubleshooting Fix 86. RichEd9x: Unofficial Rich Text Controls Update (RICHED20.DLL 5.40.11.2220) 87. UCopy2GB: Unofficial Fix for Bug When Copying Files Over 2gb in Explorer 88. V_Studio: Unofficial Visual Studio 6.0 SP6 Components Update 89. FdskFrmt: Unofficial Fix for Windows 98 SE Display Errors with FORMAT & FDISK 90. 48BITLBA: Unofficial Update for Drives over 137gb (not for IBM portables) 91. kb931836: Unofficial 2007 Updates to Time Zone Daylight Saving Time Settings 92. SERVIC9X: Unofficial Windows 98se SERVICES Update 93. ADDREMOV: Unofficial Add/Remove Programs Utility Update *** Other System Hotfixes and Updates module: 94. 2-4-date: the 2-to-4 Digit Date Conversion Tool 95. q236926: Hotfix for TCP/IP May Retransmit Packets Prematurely bug 96. q237493: System Date Reflects Changes While Date-Time Tool Is Open 97. q239696: Hotfix for bug with High Disk Activity or Low Memory 98. q241052: Hotfix for bug with Password Synchronization 99. q241084: Hotfix for bug in ACPI S4 Mode with USB Device Connected 100. q242193: Hotfix for Bug in Microsoft Client for NetWare Networks 101. q243199: Hotfix for bug in Win98se with NDIS Intermediate Drivers 102. q245065: Hotfix for bug with Automatic Repeat and USB Keyboards 103. q245682: Hotfix for IDE Controller Is Disabled in Device Manager bug 104. q249146: Hotfix for bug in PlaySound API with USB devices present 105. q249635: Hotfix for Size Report bug in USB Driver 106. q249824: Hotfix for VOLTRACK Is Erroneously Unloaded bug 107. q250514: Hotfix for bug with Print Jobs on the Same Printer 108. q250876: Hotfix for Print Queues May Appear Offline bug 109. q253711: Hotfix for ACPI Computer May Not Shut Down Properly Bug 110. q257360: Hotfix for ACPI Compliant Computer May Hang bug 111. q257821: Hotfix for Windows Sockets Function Adds 500ms Time-Out Bug 112. q258680: Hotfix for Bug in Screen Saver Activation While Suspended 113. q262232: Hotfix for Bug Using Floppy Disks with LS-120 Drives 114. q271701: Hotfix for Dial-Up Networking with an ATM adapter Bug 115. q272137: Hotfix for bug with Long Filenames and Novell NetWare Server 116. q272621: Hotfix for bug in Reported Size in Virtual Memory Tab 117. q274370: Hotfix for Blue Screen Of Death Using Digital CD Audio 118. q275873: Hotfix for Sleep and Power Buttons Are the Same bug 119. q277628: Hotfix for Last Access and Creation Time Access Denied bug 120. q278033: Fix for Bug in MS Video For Windows Apps with USB Digital Cameras 121. q278368: Hotfix for Memory Leak in Atmuni.sys 122. q283032: Windows 98 Cannot List Users in Windows 2000-Based Domain 123. q288550: Hotfix for Bug in Plug and Play Printer May Not Resume (VCOMM.VXD) 124. q290831: Hotfix for SCSI Miniports Shutdown bug 125. q293197: Windows Explorer Hangs When Inserting PC Card During Resume 126. q295629: Enumeration Problems in Texas Instruments CardBus Controllers 127. q307004: Hotfix for Group Policy Bug in Groups with Long Names 128. q308349: Hotfix for Bug when Turning Off Computer with USB Modem Present 129. q309081: Hotfix for Infrared Devices Data Features bug 130. q310695: Hotfix for DVD Player Program Cannot Access Data bug 131. q311561: Hotfix for bug in MS-DOS Processing Hard Disk Errors 132. q315575: Hotfix for DCOM Program Hangs After Server Reboot 133. q319571: Hotfix for bug in Detection of Non-US Enhanced Keyboards 134. q321467: Hotfix for bug in SWENUM.SYS with PortCls devices 135. q323708: Hotfix for Computer Hangs Bug During Infrared Communication *** ASPI Layer module: 136. ForcASPI: Force ASPI 1.7 *** Win98-to-Me module: 137. Win982Me: The core of Win98-to-Me by MDGx *** Optional Windows Components module: 138. NetwTool: Windows Networking Tool (the Windows XP version) 139. QFEchkup: the Hotfix & Update Information Tool 140. TTFPAK: MDGx's True Type Fonts Pack (44 fonts) *** Visual Basic Runtimes module: 141. VBRUN600: Visual Basic 6.0 sp6 Runtime Files 142. VBRUN6C: Visual Basic 6.0 Common Controls Update (kb896559) The following updates were found to be installed: The report took 2 minutes and 3 seconds to run. The number of missing updates found during this search session: 142 03:33:18 -- Auto-Patcher has finished compiling the report. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report for Auto-Patcher v1.95 Preview Release 2 generated on Wednesday, 11 April 2007 - the time is now: 11:29am - the most recent report is at the end of this log file. The following list of updates were not found on this computer: *** System Stability Hotfixes module: 1. q260067: Mapped Drives Update 2. q276602: Hotfix for Device Manager Reports Code 10 for Device Bug *** Recommended Tweaks module: *** Windows Installer module: *** Data Access & Jet Engine module: 3. MDAC281: MS Data Access Components 2.8 sp1 4. kb837001: Hotfix for Vulnerability in the Jet Database Engine *** Internet Explorer module: 5. IE6sp1: Internet Explorer 6 sp1 6. q322656: Msinfo32.exe causes an Access Denied error in Internet Explorer 7. q329115: Hotfix for Certificate Validation Flaw Vulnerability 8. kb824220: Hotfix for Images Not Appearing in some Web Pages in Internet Explorer 9. kb837009: Official Cumulative Update for Outlook Express 6 sp1 10. kb870669: Hotfix for vulnerability in ADOB Stream in Internet Explorer 6 11. kb888113: Hotfix for Hyperlink Object Library Vulnerability 12. kb891781: Hotfix for DHTML ActiveX Control Vulnerability 13. kb916281: Official Cumulative Update for Internet Explorer 6 sp1 14. IE_Audio: Internet Explorer Navigation Sound Update *** Windows Media Player module: 15. kb891122: Unofficial Update for Windows Media DRM-enabled players *** DirectX 9 module: 16. DirectX9: DirectX 9.0c (December 2006) *** Critical Security Hotfixes module: 17. q245729: Hotfix for File Access URL Vulnerability 18. q258765: Hotfix for Remote Update Option Vulnerability 19. q269239: Hotfix for NetBIOS Vulnerability May Cause Duplicate Name 20. q269388: Hotfix for Spoofed Route Pointer Vulnerability 21. q273991: Share Level Password Update 22. q273727: Hotfix for Malformed IPX NMPI Packet Vulnerability 23. q274113: Hotfix for WebTV Vulnerability 24. q313829: Hotfix for Unchecked Buffer in Windows Shell Vulnerability 25. q314941: Hotfix for Vulnerability in Universal Plug 'n' Play 26. q323172: Hotfix for Certificate Enrollment Control Vulnerability 27. q323255: Hotfix for Windows Help Facility Vulnerability 28. q329048: Hotfix for File Decompression Function Vulnerability 29. OLEDBUp: OLE DB Provider for Internet Publishing Update 30. TelnetUp: Hotfix for Buffer overrun in Telnet Vulnerability 31. kb811630: Hotfix for HTML Help Security Vulnerability 32. kb823559: Hotfix for Buffer Overrun In HTML Converter Vulnerability 33. kb873374: Hotfix for Vulnerability in JPEG Processing 34. kb891711: Unofficial Hotfix for Cursor and Icon Format Handling Vulnerability 35. kb917344: Hotfix for Vulnerability in Microsoft JScript 36. kb918547: Unofficial Hotfix for Vulnerability in Graphics Rendering Engine 37. UCrypt9x: Unofficial 128-bit SSL Encryption Security Fixes 38. kb926247: Unofficial Hotfix for Vulnerability in SNMP Service *** Critical & Recommended System Updates module: 39. q240896: Hotfix for Invalid Page Fault Bug in OpenGL Programs (OPENGL32.DLL) 40. q259253: Hotfix for bug in ACPI with Anti-Virus Software 41. q269601: Windows Driver Model Audio Update for Windows 98se 42. q274175: Hotfix for bug with More Than Eight Folder Levels on CD-ROM 43. q280448: Update for PCI.vxd 44. RootCUp: Root Certificate Update February 2007 (11.0.2195.0) 45. q323455: Directory Services Client Update (NEGOTIAT.DLL 5.0.2195.4784) 46. Unicows: Layer for Unicode version 1.1.3790.0 47. OpenType: OpenType Font Shell Extension 48. UNotepad: Unofficial Update for Windows Notepad 49. UsbmteUp: USB, 1394 & Mass Storage Device Drivers (q242975 Update) 50. OleLibUp: OLE Automation Libraries 2.40.4522 update (OLEDLG.DLL 5.0.1601.0) 51. 98TShoot: Unofficial Windows 98se HTML Help Troubleshooting Fix 52. RichEd9x: Unofficial Rich Text Controls Update (RICHED20.DLL 5.40.11.2220) 53. UCopy2GB: Unofficial Fix for Bug When Copying Files Over 2gb in Explorer 54. V_Studio: Unofficial Visual Studio 6.0 SP6 Components Update 55. FdskFrmt: Unofficial Fix for Windows 98 SE Display Errors with FORMAT & FDISK 56. 48BITLBA: Unofficial Update for Drives over 137gb (not for IBM portables) 57. kb925672: MSXML 4.0 SP2 Update 58. kb931836: Unofficial 2007 Updates to Time Zone Daylight Saving Time Settings 59. SERVIC9X: Unofficial Windows 98se SERVICES Update 60. ADDREMOV: Unofficial Add/Remove Programs Utility Update *** Other System Hotfixes and Updates module: 61. 2-4-date: the 2-to-4 Digit Date Conversion Tool 62. q236926: Hotfix for TCP/IP May Retransmit Packets Prematurely bug 63. q237493: System Date Reflects Changes While Date-Time Tool Is Open 64. q239696: Hotfix for bug with High Disk Activity or Low Memory 65. q241052: Hotfix for bug with Password Synchronization 66. q241084: Hotfix for bug in ACPI S4 Mode with USB Device Connected 67. q242193: Hotfix for Bug in Microsoft Client for NetWare Networks 68. q243199: Hotfix for bug in Win98se with NDIS Intermediate Drivers 69. q245065: Hotfix for bug with Automatic Repeat and USB Keyboards 70. q245682: Hotfix for IDE Controller Is Disabled in Device Manager bug 71. q249146: Hotfix for bug in PlaySound API with USB devices present 72. q249635: Hotfix for Size Report bug in USB Driver 73. q249824: Hotfix for VOLTRACK Is Erroneously Unloaded bug 74. q250514: Hotfix for bug with Print Jobs on the Same Printer 75. q250876: Hotfix for Print Queues May Appear Offline bug 76. q253711: Hotfix for ACPI Computer May Not Shut Down Properly Bug 77. q257360: Hotfix for ACPI Compliant Computer May Hang bug 78. q257821: Hotfix for Windows Sockets Function Adds 500ms Time-Out Bug 79. q258680: Hotfix for Bug in Screen Saver Activation While Suspended 80. q262232: Hotfix for Bug Using Floppy Disks with LS-120 Drives 81. q271701: Hotfix for Dial-Up Networking with an ATM adapter Bug 82. q272137: Hotfix for bug with Long Filenames and Novell NetWare Server 83. q272621: Hotfix for bug in Reported Size in Virtual Memory Tab 84. q274370: Hotfix for Blue Screen Of Death Using Digital CD Audio 85. q275873: Hotfix for Sleep and Power Buttons Are the Same bug 86. q277628: Hotfix for Last Access and Creation Time Access Denied bug 87. q278033: Fix for Bug in MS Video For Windows Apps with USB Digital Cameras 88. q278368: Hotfix for Memory Leak in Atmuni.sys 89. q283032: Windows 98 Cannot List Users in Windows 2000-Based Domain 90. q288550: Hotfix for Bug in Plug and Play Printer May Not Resume (VCOMM.VXD) 91. q290831: Hotfix for SCSI Miniports Shutdown bug 92. q293197: Windows Explorer Hangs When Inserting PC Card During Resume 93. q295629: Enumeration Problems in Texas Instruments CardBus Controllers 94. q307004: Hotfix for Group Policy Bug in Groups with Long Names 95. q308349: Hotfix for Bug when Turning Off Computer with USB Modem Present 96. q309081: Hotfix for Infrared Devices Data Features bug 97. q310695: Hotfix for DVD Player Program Cannot Access Data bug 98. q311561: Hotfix for bug in MS-DOS Processing Hard Disk Errors 99. q315575: Hotfix for DCOM Program Hangs After Server Reboot 100. q319571: Hotfix for bug in Detection of Non-US Enhanced Keyboards 101. q321467: Hotfix for bug in SWENUM.SYS with PortCls devices 102. q323708: Hotfix for Computer Hangs Bug During Infrared Communication *** ASPI Layer module: 103. ForcASPI: Force ASPI 1.7 *** Win98-to-Me module: 104. Win982Me: The core of Win98-to-Me by MDGx *** Optional Windows Components module: 105. NetwTool: Windows Networking Tool (the Windows XP version) 106. TTFPAK: MDGx's True Type Fonts Pack (44 fonts) *** Visual Basic Runtimes module: 107. VBRUN600: Visual Basic 6.0 sp6 Runtime Files 108. VBRUN6C: Visual Basic 6.0 Common Controls Update (kb896559) The following updates were found to be installed: q239887: Windows 98 Second Edition Shutdown Supplement q240075: USB Devices May Not Work in Windows 98 Second Edition q253697: Hotfix for USB Enumeration Problems on Fast Computers q273017: IDE Hard Drive Cache Package for Windows 98se q285189: Dial-Up Networking 1.4 Upgrade for Windows 98se q306453: Hotfix for bug in Usbhub.sys with USB Devices q318307: Update for VMOUSE.VXD 98Updsys: Unofficial CPU Microcode Update StopLogo: the Disable Boot Logo tweak DOSHere: Add 'Command Prompt Here' to Right-Click Menu TweakUI: TweakUI 1.33 Install2: Windows Installer v2 kb918144: Unofficial Hotfix for various issues in the Jet 4.0 data engine kb927779: Unofficial MDAC 2.8 sp1 update (with sqlsrv32.dll) kb816093: Hotfix for Vulnerability in Microsoft Virtual Machine kb816362: Hotfix for Bug in Mshta.exe With Multiple Modal Dialog Boxes kb886677: Unofficial Hotfix for DBCS Corruption in MLANG.DLL kb893627: Hotfix for Bug with Group Policies Not Applied in Internet Explorer kb896156: Hotfix for bug when removing an HTML element from a Web page kb905495: Hotfix for Vulnerability in the Windows FTP Client kb908519: Hotfix for vulnerability in Embedded Web Fonts kb913433: Hotfix for Vulnerabilities in Flash Player kb918439: Hotfix for Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering kb923694: Unofficial Cumulative Update for Outlook Express 6 sp1 DX_Media: Unofficial DirectX Media Update for IE 6 sp1 HTMLHelp: Unofficial HTML Help Update (HHCTRL.OCX 5.2.3790.620) HTMLCert: Unofficial HTML Help Expired Security Certificate Update kb924191: Unofficial MSXML 3.0 SP7 Update kb929969: Hotfix for Vulnerability in Vector Markup Language WinMP7: Windows Media Player legacy files WMEncode: Windows Media Encoder 7.1 WinMP9: Windows Media Player 9 & Codecs W98MP10: MDGx's Windows Media Player Replacements from WinXP kb817885: Hotfix for bug in the WMP9 OCX Control with Netscape Browsers kb911564: Hotfix for Vulnerability in WMP Plug-in in Non-M$ Web Browsers kb917734: Hotfix for Yet Another Vulnerability in Windows Media Player LC3codec: Unofficial MP3 codec for WMP9 & WMP7 from WinXP WMP10 kb920670: Unofficial Hyperlink Object Security Vulnerability Fix kb923689: Hotfix for Vulnerability in Windows Media Format QFEchkup: the Hotfix & Update Information Tool The report took 2 minutes and 18 seconds to run. The number of missing updates found during this search session: 108 11:31:01 -- Auto-Patcher has finished compiling the report. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thanks for posting georg & doc365a, and apologies to the rest for being snippy - bad hair day yesterday. my main interest in 98SE is it appears most of the security fixes, patches, updates, etc. are for SE only. all of the unofficial goodies on this site are also SE only. i probably wouldn't care, except my son will probably want to get on the 'net someday. we have a home network w/ hardware firewall, but i'd still prefer to have each pc on the network as up-to-date as possible as far as security goes. i'm still digging around the web looking for non-shady places to get 98SE. if i find it, i'll post the link...

Ok, let me restate my problem, since it seems to have gotten lost: - I have the backup CDs for Win98 First Edition that was installed on an old Toshiba laptop. - I've been able to use those CDs to install a fresh copy of Win98 First Edition on a new, 100 GB hard drive - I'm now looking for some way to upgrade, update, or whatever, to Win98 Second Edition So, suggestions like looking on the backup CDs for the .cabs, asking M$ for their help, etc. - I don't think that does me any good. The .cabs on the backup CDs are FIRST EDITION - I need Second Edition. M$ is surely not going to help anyone to remain stuck in the past, especially since they discontinued support for Win9x over a year ago, etc., etc... Forgive my frustration folks, but please reread the original post so your reply is relevant. Looks like my only choice is ebay or a swap meet. Flame away...

Not to be ungrateful, but I can't find any advice on whether, and in what order, to install these upgrades you guys have worked so hard to produce: 98 SE SP 2.1a (Gape) Auto-patcher for Win98SE (soporific) Windows 9x Power Pack v4.x (jimmsta) 98 Revolutions Pack (Tihiy) Major questions are: (1) Should I install all of these? (2) Isn't there some overlap in what they provide? (3) Does that matter? (4) If I do install more than one of them, does the order matter? Thanks. Help is much appreciated...

Funny, I agree with both eleventhcmd and BenoitRen - I think it could run XP, but it may be excruciatingly slow. Right now with a fresh win98 install and a new, fast hard drive, the old girl is pretty da*n fast. The other issue is it will be loaded with old games, some of which may not run on XP. I don't know of any way to be sure except to try it, which means buying an XP upgrade that I may never use. Agree it would be an expensive test. I guess I could use the XP upgrade on another aging machine in the basement. Anyway, thanks for the advice folks. I'll repost when I've found a solution...

not really interested in seedy p2p. linux is not a good fit for this one, it's for my son (2nd grade), primarily for him to learn typing & some mindless kiddie games (most are hand-me down win98 games, circa 2000). i might dual boot it with a linux distro just for fun, then see how that develops.

actually, i DO have a CD, it's the backup CD for Win98 First Edition, which is what came preloaded on the computer. what i'm looking for is a retail upgrade (or full version) of Win98 Second Edition. Pretty sure there's no place to download the whole OS, only service packs & patches, etc.

A little update. I wasn't able to get the cloning operation to work - I tried using xxclone, but it couldn't find a source OR target drive. Eventually, I punted and tried to restore to the new hard disk from the backup CDs. Turns out that worked, it just wouldn't boot because I forgot to make the partition active when I formatted it. So, I booted to a floppy and ran FDISK to set the partition active. Then rebooted to the hard drive, and all was well (sort of). The restore process finished after I rebooted. In hindsight, maybe xxclone failed because the target partition wasn't active, so it couldn't find more than one drive? Although it has an option to make the target bootable... So, now I have a fresh copy of Win98 on the new hard disk, but with no updates, bug fixes, patches, etc. Still looking for SE, but I'm not eager to go ebay. That may be my only choice, or give in to the dark side and try XP... Edit - forgot to mention I formatted the drive using the updated Win98 FDISK (the one that correctly recognizes partitions larger than 64GB). Worked like a charm, but sloooow. Only hitch was the set active thing, but probably my fault :-)

Well, I'm trying to resurrect an old Toshiba laptop for my son (2nd grader). It's sloow, but built like a tank (Satellite 4030CDT). Anyway, the hard drive is maxed out, so I bought a new one (100 GB for only about 75 bucks). That's way more than it needs to be, but I figured when the laptop finally croaks, I can make the HDD into an external USB drive for backup. So, the machine came with Win98 (NOT Win98SE). I tried to clone the old HDD onto the new one, but it failed. The new drive is partitioned and formatted, and is supposed to be bootable, but it won't actually boot! I also tried to restore to the new drive from the backup CDs that came with the laptop, but that didn't work either. Question is, anybody know where I can buy an actual copy of Win98SE? I was thinking of just installing a fresh copy of Win98 from scratch. Called a few stores today and they all kinda laughed. Any help is appreciated...