iceangel89 Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 (edited) Hi,i am looking for ppl with Stable/Fast builds of their XP. What did you ppl remove? Services to Disable? For speed not fancy looks.Edit: Security also important... Edited February 24, 2007 by iceangel89
DL. Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 Search and you will find!It's quite individual depending on which progs you use, which hardware you have, your skill level and the way you use your PC...
Borec Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 It depends on your computer/network configuration, and programs, you will install. If it help you, I can write here my setting of services, or you can fing me on ICQ 310164851, if you aren't scared of my english
Borec Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 Automatic:Cryptographic ServicesDCOM Server Process LauncherDNS ClientEvent LogPlug and PlayPrint SpoolerProtected StorageRemote Procedure Call (RPC)Security Accounts ManagerShell Hardware DetectionSystem Event NotificationTask SchedulerWindows AudioWindows Image Acquisition (WIA)Windows Management InstrumentationManual:COM+ Event SystemNetwork ConnectionsApplication ManagementCOM+ System ApplicationHTTP SSL *Logical Disk ManagerLogical Disk Manager Administrative ServiceWindows InstallerWindows Management Instrumentation Driver ExtensionDisabled: all others
albator Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 In the Borec list:Cryptographic Services is only needed for directx installation or or other ms installation. I set it to manualDNS Client is not needed for you local pcPrint Spooler is only needed for printer and some virtual pdf printerProtected Storage is off on my pc, the only thing i know it does his allow IE to keep password, since IE suck you dont have to careShell Hardware Detection is off on my system, the only consequence I see is that I dont have autorun on dvd-rom and i like it.I agree with the rest of the list, but just be sure you know what your doing, there no unique approach to tweaking pc.
Borec Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 It seems, you understand very well what you are doing.Cryptographic Services - I do use directX, and it also check sign of drivers.DNS Client - attention! - if you disable this, your connection speed may reduce - it resolves and caches DNS names.Protected Storage - it's a novelty for me - really it's only needed if you use Internet Explorer? (not other programs use this? e. g. Firefox, ... ?)P. S. - what about Security Accounts Manager, if all users on my PC are "Administrators"?
albator Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 (edited) It seems, you understand very well what you are doing.Cryptographic Services - I do use directX, and it also check sign of drivers.DNS Client - attention! - if you disable this, your connection speed may reduce - it resolves and caches DNS names.Protected Storage - it's a novelty for me - really it's only needed if you use Internet Explorer? (not other programs use this? e. g. Firefox, ... ?)P. S. - what about Security Accounts Manager, if all users on my PC are "Administrators"?Cryptographic Services is only needed when you install directx (ex: direct X 9.0c) not for using it, I am a gamer so I do use directx. If a new version had to come I would need to start the service to install it. You also need this for windows update.I am not sure about DSN CLIENT. Mine is disabled, and my firefox is very fast.Protected storage is not needed for firefox password functionI dont have a security center, so I dont know much about Security Accounts Manage, but from what I know, if every account are admins, then it seem ok to disable it. Edited February 24, 2007 by albator
E-66 Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 Dumb question: if you have a service set to 'manual', what does that mean exactly? I mean, how do you know when to active it/turn it on?In the directX installation example, say you have the Cryptographic Services set to manual and you try to install directX. What happens?
strotee76 Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 The way I understand it: Manual just means Windows won't start the service until it absolutely needs it, turns it on (does what it needs to do), then turns it "off" until it needs it again.
Borec Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 It's easy - just try for example to disable service Help and Support and then try to start Help.To albator - are you really sure, it's no risk to disable this service, if I have Firefox, but the core of IE is still present?: Protected Storage(Black Viper recomands let it on automatic and the Security Accounts Manager too, but for advanced users - disabled)What about if I were the only user on my XP - is there any reason to run the service Security Accounts Manager?other good source for configuration of windos xp : http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/OptimizeXP.html
albator Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 Some services set to manual by windows are started by hierachal others.if you set services like cryptogaphic service (wich default is to automatic) they will not be started by windows and you will have an error.The workarround is to have a place like me in you start menu with a group of shorcut to start service.for example net net start "CryptSvc" will start the cryptogaphic service.I suggest tweaking your service and others windows setting as much as you can, you will get a faster pc.Mine boot from bios screen to windows in 8 sec.
iceangel89 Posted February 25, 2007 Author Posted February 25, 2007 Thanks all.... Just a request, dunno if there is such thing in this forum but... Since most ppl using nLite want to know how should/what is needed for this and that would it be good if there is a guide? like what service is important? what can or shold be removed. i know this can be searched but looks like many site out there's guide can cause problems here and there like my Acquiring Network Address ProblemAnd thanks all again. Any more suggestions? Anyone
DL. Posted February 25, 2007 Posted February 25, 2007 Creating a highly customized and tweaked unattended setup that works very well for your computer, the software you use and the way you use it is far from easy. It requires lots of time, skills and hard work/testing!Since everyone has their own hardware configuration and usage habits it's difficult to recommend something that works for all.You can use the guides and recommendations as a starting point/reference, but test all of it yourself.Always test your installations in VMWare or Virtual PC (or other virtualization sw) before you burn the CD/DVD and install on real hardware.@albator:Did you use a stopwatch or Bootvis to measure your boot time?Was it a full cold boot, a reboot or wakeup from hibernation/standby?A full boot (power-on to usable, including BIOS initialization time) in 8s (using a stopwatch) is very impressive, 8s measured with Bootvis is also very good. You need the right hardware and the correct tweaking for that, it definately cannot be done on all PC:s.I've managed to get 9s (Bootvis) with a P3 1.26+(512, 768 or 896 MB RAM?)+Maxtor 7200rpm HDD, but I'm quite sure I can do even better if tweaked correctly (missed a few things back then).
bledd Posted February 25, 2007 Posted February 25, 2007 if you're unsure, i'd go for the nlite presets.. safe or lite, then test your setups yourself, only you know what you need to keep
albator Posted February 25, 2007 Posted February 25, 2007 it was A full boot with stop watch process. But i must say I have a WD Raptor 1000 rpm Hardisk, with only 8 services running on my xp.
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