ale5000 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/269239/EN-US/ it say that microsft hasn't released any patch to fix NetBIOS Vulnerability on Win ME, there is a unofficial patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLXX Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 IMPORTANT: Microsoft recommends that this hotfix only be applied to computers that specifically require it, that is, computers that play a central role in the network and that the administrator judges could be a target for such an attack. Microsoft does not recommend that you apply this hotfix globally without testing it in a specific environment.You shouldn't have port 137 open to the whole Internet anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ale5000 Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 (edited) I don't have it opened but I'm a bit paranoid. Edited December 17, 2006 by ale5000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noguru Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 (edited) I don't have it opened but I'm a bit paranoid.Paranoid people dont need netbios You can disable it, see " Increased Netbios Security" overhere:http://www.mdgx.com/newtip19.htm Edited December 17, 2006 by noguru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscardog Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 If you unbind it as nogurus link shows you will have nothing to fear and still retain your file sharing capabilities on a lan. Netbios cannot travel over a wlan,www etc unless it bound to another protocol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLXX Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Also, if you're behind a NAT router and not in DMZ, none of this matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ale5000 Posted December 18, 2006 Author Share Posted December 18, 2006 I use WinXP PC with USB modem and ICS, Win ME pc uses ICS to connect to internet.I noticed that when I disabled NetBios over TCP/IP in Win XP pc then file and printer sharing stop working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGx Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 You can disable it, see " Increased Netbios Security" overhere:http://www.mdgx.com/newtip19.htmHere is the actual link:http://www.mdgx.com/newtip19.htm#INSHTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam13484 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Here's a couple of patches taken from www.grc.com years ago, that are said to close and/or open port 139. Works on Windows 98/Me. Any one want to test them and confirm that they work on their system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLXX Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Here's a couple of patches taken from www.grc.com years ago, that are said to close and/or open port 139. Works on Windows 98/Me. Any one want to test them and confirm that they work on their system?I'd rather just rename the file as MDGx suggests there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ale5000 Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 This: http://www.mdgx.com/newtip19.htm#INS kills "file and printer sharing".If I un-bind tcp/ip from "file and printer sharing", then "file and printer sharing" stop working.Can some experts here simply path "Vnbt.386" (maybe understanding how the win98 fix works and copy it on win me)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGx Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 This: http://www.mdgx.com/newtip19.htm#INS kills "file and printer sharing".If I un-bind tcp/ip from "file and printer sharing", then "file and printer sharing" stop working.Can some experts here simply path "Vnbt.386" (maybe understanding how the win98 fix works and copy it on win me)?To my knowledge file + printer sharing is tied into NetBios.More info:http://www.pc-help.org/www.nwinternet.com/...ues/sharing.htmTherefore you cannot use shares [$file +/- $printer] if you disable NetBios.Also, vnbt.386 is specific to the 9x OS edition.The 1 from 98/98 SE doesn't work with ME nor the other way around.So you can disable NetBios 3 ways [but this will also disable file + printer sharing]:1. Follow this guide:http://www.mdgx.com/newtip19.htm#INS2. Follow this guide:http://www.grc.com/su-rebinding9x.htm3. Use the Noshare.exe "patching" tool posted above by sam13484.Please keep in mind that file + printer sharing is a serious security vulnerability if you don't know what you're doing or if you are careless:http://cable-dsl.home.att.net/netbios.htmYour choice.HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscardog Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 This: http://www.mdgx.com/newtip19.htm#INS kills "file and printer sharing".If I un-bind tcp/ip from "file and printer sharing", then "file and printer sharing" stop working.Can some experts here simply path "Vnbt.386" (maybe understanding how the win98 fix works and copy it on win me)?If tcp/ip is unbound from netbios your home network file sharing will work fine between win9x computers, I transfer over mapped drives most days with it unbound. Your problem lies at your winxp end, which does not support netbeui as standard it needs copying from your xp disc or downloading.Once you have sorted your xp end out, file sharing will work, it is not a win9x problem.I would seriously consider ditching ics and getting a router, they offer far greater security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_04 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 This: http://www.mdgx.com/newtip19.htm#INS kills "file and printer sharing".If I un-bind tcp/ip from "file and printer sharing", then "file and printer sharing" stop working.Can some experts here simply path "Vnbt.386" (maybe understanding how the win98 fix works and copy it on win me)?If tcp/ip is unbound from netbios your home network file sharing will work fine between win9x computers, I transfer over mapped drives most days with it unbound. Your problem lies at your winxp end, which does not support netbeui as standard it needs copying from your xp disc or downloading.Once you have sorted your xp end out, file sharing will work, it is not a win9x problem.I would seriously consider ditching ics and getting a router, they offer far greater security.Talking about ICS, a question...Windows 98 FE is more secure in terms of sharing and network security than Windows 98 SE/ME?I know that Windows 98 FE hasn't ICS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erpdude8 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 (edited) Talking about ICS, a question...Windows 98 FE is more secure in terms of sharing and network security than Windows 98 SE/ME?I know that Windows 98 FE hasn't ICS.not really true, Max_04. even though Win98fe doesnt have ICS, Win98FE users can install the XP-based ICS client on a Win98fe machine. Copy the NETSETUP.EXE file from an WinXP machine and onto a floppy disk. Then run NETSETUP.EXE on a Win98fe machine and that'll install ICS and some UPNP (universal plug & play) components onto Win98fe. the XP SP1/SP2 editions of NETSETUP.EXE include the Q314941 UPNP security fixes.also, a normal or typical Win98SE installation does not automatically install ICS. so ICS is not installed under Win98se by default.eh, I dont have to worry about the unpatched Netbios problem in WinME. I NEVER use Netbios on my ME computer.I'd rather use WINIPCFG and click on RELEASE ALL, then click on RENEW ALL to reset my network connections on the WinME computer. that's one of the Workarounds mentioned in MS article 269239. Edited December 22, 2006 by erpdude8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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