Computer Upgrade

[m16si]

I thing i will upgrade my pc soon...

But there are so many new things.... (mobos, Cpus, Rams) that i don't even know diffrence between them..

Could you help me with these products and their diffrences...

1. Motherboards

Socket 939

Socket 940 (AM2)

What's the diffrence between them ?

2. Which motherboard

939 socket:

GIGABYTE K8NF-9 Ultra nForce4 Ultra +SB+GBL+SATA+FW

ASUS A8N-E nforce4 Ultra +SB+GBL+SATA

940 socket:

GIGABYTE GA-M55plus-S3G nforce6100 +VGA+SB+GBL+SATA

ASUS M2NPV-VM nForce6150 +VGA+SB+GBL+SATA

3. CPU

ATHLON 64 3800+/512K S939 - Venice

ATHLON 64 4000+/1MB OEM S939 - SanDiego

ATHLON 64 X2 3800+/1MB BOX AM2 (more expensive)

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Sempron 175 (don't even know what special about Sempron 175 series) Can u explain please

4. RAM

1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 DDR Geil Value

2GB (2x1GB) PC3200 DDR Geil Value (i will see how much money i will have )

Can you tell me why is DDR2 ram so cheap ? Is it slower ?

That's all Thanx

m16si

[ripken204]

whats your budget? have you considered the new intel core 2 duo thats out now? kills every amd out there. if you go am2 then wait a few months for it to develope more. ddr2 is not slower, it runs at higher frequencies but slower timings.

[CoffeeFiend]

1. AM2 (940) is the new socket. Newer chips will mainly come in that socket.

2. Have a peek at the AUS M2N-E if you want a AM2 board. Really nice board, and quite reasonable price especially given the features.

socket AM2

nforce 570 MCP

dual channel DDR2 800, 4 DIMMs

one ATA133 connector (for older stuff like DVD writers and such)

6 SATA2 connectors (yes, six of them!) - and with good & flexible RAID - even supports RAID5 across all 6 HDs! (not just RAID 0 or 1, nor are you forced to use it like many boards that offer RAID)

Gigabit Ethernet

High Def audio onboard (8 channels, 192/24; has spdif out)

good BIOS

plenty of USB2 ports

comes with lots of cables (PATA, 4 SATA [data], SATA power, ...)

etc.

3.

The difference between first two is the cache, twice as big.

The last one may be more expensive, but it's dual core (X2), different socket, and uses a different core too (Windsor), which has Pacifica (AMD's VT). And again, DDR2 support on this series of CPUs.

[ripken204]

well for the am2 board to get, its definetly dfi's board

[CoffeeFiend]

well for the am2 board to get, its definetly dfi's board

Definitely? Not so. only 4 SATA ports, no RAID5. Definitely NOT the one

Also, it only supports 4GB RAM (vs 8GB for the ASUS) - a significant difference if you use VMWare Server or the like. Seemingly the DFI doesn't support DDR2-800 either (only 533 and 667).

Looks like a gamer's board to me. Bleh.

[ripken204]

im talking about the DFI Lanparty UT NF590

[CoffeeFiend]

im talking about the DFI Lanparty UT NF590

...which you can't buy yet (while my M2N-E has already been in use for a few days). I had picked the only DFI board for AM2 that's available. The only places you can see this board is previews and their roadmap.

And once it's finally available, it'll still cost double (M2N-E is ~110$, and I've seen the DFI on pre-order for 175 euros, which is ~220$ using xe.com's current rates). By me the extra few features (and wait) aren't worth paying twice as much.

[puntoMX]

Yeah, your right and for 175 to 220 bucks you could get the flagship of ASUS too, the M2N32-SLI Deluxe/Wireless Edition. I could tweak a ASUS mobo as high as a DFI, both stable has hell...

[Thunderbolt 2864]

If you want a good AM2 board, get Gigabyte GA-M55Plus -S3G. Runs like a charm. You get 4 DDR2 RAM slots, supports up to 16GB and 4 PCI 32 bit slots, unlike the other boards. And its not too expensive as well.

I don't like ASUS boards. Had one, believe me, it was crap like s***.

[puntoMX]

I think you just got a bad board...

The 3 PCI option is nice but most people will have enough with 2 or 3 (I know I do with that double NIC).

*Going to use an ASUS board with a nVidia 590 chipset soon for my new webserver / gateway.

[nitroshift]

well for the am2 board to get, its definetly dfi's board

Agreed! Best mobo`s for AMD IMO