PROBLEMCHYLD Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 I just got a computer from a friend i know its old but how far can i upgrade.the mem sticks are mini and its about 6 of them in the computer with a socket 8.4gb hdhelp me out ladies and gentlemen please???
nmX.Memnoch Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 The fastest official Pentium Pro was 200MHz w/ 1MB L2 cache, but you need to see what the motherboard would support up to.The RAM slots are SIMMs...probably ECC Registered.What's the model of the Compaq machine?The Pentium Pro was definitely the most underated CPU of it's time. Those things were awesome. I had an old Pentium Pro 200MHz w/ 512K Cache system at work for several years before I finally gave it up. That thing was awesome in it's day.
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted March 27, 2006 Author Posted March 27, 2006 The fastest official Pentium Pro was 200MHz w/ 1MB L2 cache, but you need to see what the motherboard would support up to.The RAM slots are SIMMs...probably ECC Registered.What's the model of the Compaq machine?The Pentium Pro was definitely the most underated CPU of it's time. Those things were awesome. I had an old Pentium Pro 200MHz w/ 512K Cache system at work for several years before I finally gave it up. That thing was awesome in it's day.Deskpro 2000
Aegis Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 Why don't you just buy a new computer? Most of the hardware is ancient enough that it might cost you more to buy some antique piece of hardware than a more modern component.
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted March 27, 2006 Author Posted March 27, 2006 Why let it go 2 waste.I also have other computers too and soon enough i will start buildin my own.It was free i gonna upgrade and maybe donate it, who knows.My main concern is 2 upgrade 2 its full capability.
puntoMX Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 (edited) The fastest official Pentium Pro was 200MHz w/ 1MB L2 cache, but you need to see what the motherboard would support up to.The RAM slots are SIMMs...probably ECC Registered.What's the model of the Compaq machine?The Pentium Pro was definitely the most underated CPU of it's time. Those things were awesome. I had an old Pentium Pro 200MHz w/ 512K Cache system at work for several years before I finally gave it up. That thing was awesome in it's day.Did you know it´s a 5volt design and just working on 3.3volt? Well, let me tell you something, I changed these babys in about 300-360MHz CPUs while they were 180MHz marked. Just change the voltage regulators, cristals and better cooling and there you go . Sure they get hot, but you could also set them on 4volt or so .P.S. Some motherboards have setting for 83MHz FSB, I don´t know about the compaq ones. I got them up to 100 / 120 but lik ealways the RAM has to hold it. I don´t know what brand I used, but it was non-ECC.It hard when you use Lightwave 3D and computers arn´t fast enough, Edit: Check out this. I used the ASUS motherboard and as I remember it had SDRAM PC66. Edited March 27, 2006 by puntoMX
nmX.Memnoch Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 (edited) Deskpro 2000Deskpro 2000 model ???? Should be on a sticker on either the side or back.Why don't you just buy a new computer? Most of the hardware is ancient enough that it might cost you more to buy some antique piece of hardware than a more modern component.It won't cost much. I'll bet a Pentium Pro 200MHz w/ 1MB cache can be found for less than $40USD.Surprisingly I bet WinXP will run fine on it with themes disabled and some services tweaking. It'd be a decent web browsing/email checking machine for someone.Did you know it´s a 5volt design and just working on 3.3volt? Well, let me tell you something, I changed these babys in about 300-360MHz CPUs while they were 180MHz marked. Just change the voltage regulators, cristals and better cooling and there you go . Sure they get hot, but you could also set them on 4volt or so .That's why I said fastest official. I remember them being extremely overclockable. Edited March 27, 2006 by nmX.Memnoch
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted March 27, 2006 Author Posted March 27, 2006 (edited) Its a deskpro 2000, 6200series.I will be using it for minor stuff like testin and surfin the net nothin major but i will like it upgraded. Edited March 27, 2006 by PROBLEMCHYLD
LLXX Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 You can put in add-on PCI IDE / SATA cards and add bigger HDDs to it, then use it to store your backups.I have a Pentium 233 with two 2Gb, four 80Gb, and two 100Gb hard drives I got for free from a nearby school. They claimed the HDDs were broken when in fact all they needed was a reformat The machine was free too. I'm currently using it as a fileserver for backups.
nmX.Memnoch Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 You can find some Pentium Pro 200MHz w/ 1MB Cache CPUs on eBay. I had it pulled up last night but didn't save the link. I think they were like $25USD each.I looked up the system and the memory you need is just standard 72-pin EDO SIMMs. The maximum it can support is 192MB, so that means the largest size SIMM you can put in is 32MB. 6 x 32 = 192. Also, you do have to upgrade two SIMMs at a time. Check either eBay or Pricewatch for prices (on Pricewatch do a search for 32MB EDO SIMM).I agree on adding a PCI IDE and/or SATA controller to the system. The onboard IDE controller won't handle today's large hard drives.Given the maximum amount of RAM the system can run I don't think I'd run anything higher than Windows 2000 on the box. You can try Windows XP but don't expect the performace to be all that good.
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted March 27, 2006 Author Posted March 27, 2006 So what u r sayin is that the Pentium Pro 200MHz w/ 1MB Cache more recommendedthan the PentiumII Overdrive
nmX.Memnoch Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 I completely forgot about the Pentium II Overdrive chips. That would definitely be a better option because of the added MMX support.I'm not sure how overclockable the PII Overdrive chips are though. If you can get a PPro 200/1MB up to 266MHz or 300MHz it'll definitely outrun the PII Overdrive (at default speed).
Daemonforce Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 (edited) You have....A socket 8? How come I've never heard of that?The oldest computer I've seen around here is a Socket 7. Mine is a Super. Those had a range of Intel 120 MMX chips all the way up to the legendary AMD K6-2/550. A Socket 8 sounds like one of those old 66-75MHz builds that could use the turbo feature. I think you would enjoy a permanent overclock with one of those(God willing).I've gotten a 300MHz AMD K6-2 to 400MHz stable. I've also gotten a 233MHz Intel Pentium MMX to 300MHz stable(with voltage all the way to 3.5v). I would say you could probably get one of those 75MHz chips to 90MHz stable, but I don't know if a board from a brand name computer could handle that.Planning on making a router? EDIT: Wait....Those were made after my chip. This means you'll probably have some 300MHz chip! I'm betting on a 400MHz stable clock. Go go go! Edited March 28, 2006 by Daemonforce
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted March 28, 2006 Author Posted March 28, 2006 (edited) Ok ladies and Gentlemen I have found a PentiumII Overdrive for $80and a Pentium Pro 200MHz w/ 1MB for $50let me kno wich is better. Never mind the price becuz its not a issueIt uses dimm memory can 1 recommend good memory Edited March 28, 2006 by PROBLEMCHYLD
nmX.Memnoch Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 EDIT: Wait....Those were made after my chip.It was made before. The Socket 8 platform was for the Pentium Pro CPUs, which were largely regarded as server only CPUs because of how expensive they were at the time (current Xeon's have nothing on the prices these things used to run).Ok ladies and Gentlemen I have found a PentiumII Overdrive for $80and a Pentium Pro 200MHz w/ 1MB for $50let me kno wich is better. Never mind the price becuz its not a issueIt's a toss up. I'd say go for the Pentium Pro 200 and overclock it. But if you want the additional MMX support then go for the Overdrive chip. It may be just as overclockable as the Pentium Pro chip.It uses dimm memory can 1 recommend good memoryAccording to Crucial's Memory Advisor the system uses EDO SIMMs (72 pin). Make sure before you purchase anything...
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