Crash&Burn Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Nlite - which I had formerly been testing to create Win2K ISO's, until I chanced upon HFSlip through much Forum browsing. I see Nlite is mentioned a few times (mostly in passing) in the 2Ksp5.html walkthrough.I was wondering about some recommendations? What might one still use Nlite for if starting their source w/ HFSlip. As it seems to me Nlite would likely bastardize HFSlip's settings... or do they actually work well together? Am a bit confused :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdv Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 (edited) oh, believe me, they work fine together.see step 11? you can run nlite on SOURCESS when you reach that step.in other words, you slipstream ie 5 or 6, media codecs and perhaps player, directx 9, run HFSLIP, then run nLite. there are some folks who prefer to just rip the bloat out of windows in one step -- that's where my files come in. you add them to the directory named after me (this would be instead of using nLite). this removes a TON of junk in one easy step.i suppose i should disclose that i set a bunch of security measures, too... i make it simple to close NetBIOS over TCP/IP (look in NETTCPIP.INF)DCOM will be shut off, preventing possible exploitsTCP/IP will be hardened against some DDOS attacks and malformed packet attacks. (I added settings that NIST recommends)Port 135 will be closed by defaultScripting exploits and ActiveX exploits simply won't worki turn off remote registry editing service by defaulti turn off windows 'popup' messenger service by default Edited October 14, 2005 by fdv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outatouch Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 yes HFSLIP and nLite work very well together. My xp now installs in 16 minutes!!! Of course no one believes me at first when I tell them lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash&Burn Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 So what do you use the 2 for? as a number of their features overlap each otherLike do you prefer driver integration w/ Nlite or HFSlip?Removing Features? Obviously Hotfixes are better w/ HFSlip, as NLite chokes on way too many.Suppose just looking for a few opions I've been messing around w/ my win2k iso for far too long, and would like to get something finalized that I like *grin* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyp Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 @Crash - To summarize, HFSLIP falls into four categories:1) (2k) Slipstream the latest hotfixes, optionally slipstream DX9 and integrate FDVs fileset (2k only). With this setup, you have IE removed from your system from the start. You cannot run NLITE on this configuration, because FDV was nice enough to remove all the worthless stuff right from your installation source plus add in lots of valuable additional security. 2) (2K) Slipstream the latest hotfixes, IE6, OE6, WAB6 and optionally slipstream DX9. With this setup, you can optionally run NLITE to reduce the source to your liking. If you don't run NLITE, you'll end up with a source that is fully patched right off the bat. 3) (2K) Slipstream the latest hotfixes, IE5 updates and optionally slipstream DX9. With this setup, you can optionally run NLITE to reduce the source to your liking. If you don't run NLITE, you'll end up with a source that is fully patched right off the bat. 4) (XP and 2003) Slipstream all the latest hotfixes (DX9 is already part of these OS's). With this setup, you can optionally run NLITE to reduce the source to your liking. If you don't run NLITE, you'll end up with a source that is fully patched right off the bat. With all catagories, you can slipstream other stuff too like codecs and a host of other things. HFSLIP does not currenly slipstream drivers into your source. BTW, I run option 2 and my w2k installs in about 12 minutes. I have run option 4 with XP and was able to install in less than 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHolyGrail Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 i suppose i should disclose that i set a bunch of security measures, too... i make it simple to close NetBIOS over TCP/IP (look in NETTCPIP.INF)DCOM will be shut off, preventing possible exploitsTCP/IP will be hardened against some DDOS attacks and malformed packet attacks. (I added settings that NIST recommends)Port 135 will be closed by defaultScripting exploits and ActiveX exploits simply won't worki turn off remote registry editing service by defaulti turn off windows 'popup' messenger service by defaultHow do you prevent scripting exploits and ActiveX exploits from working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash&Burn Posted November 20, 2005 Author Share Posted November 20, 2005 @ NoHolyGrailThe activeX is disabled among the other things that FDV lists because his fileset when used w/ HFSLIP purges/removes Internet Explorer from Windows 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHolyGrail Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Ah, yes. I should have figured that one out. Firefox users needn't worry about ActiveX anyway.Are the other scripts just set to disabled by default? I guess I was hoping for some way to limit the power of scripts without shutting them off entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtwarrior Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 2 questionsI got the file list of the files for the keep box for nliteAre there any files that should not be removed in the nlite process?I ran the comand for the second time as per instructions, it has been running for a long time.What is the normal legnth of time for this to run?Oh, another question.If I want msconfig where do I put it?dirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saugatak Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 There are so many hotfixes now that HFSLIP can take a while to run.nLite has always been slow because it uses the .NET framework which is just plain slow but it's supposed to be easier to program and debug in.What you remove depends upon what programs you run. Check out the nLite forum. They have a stickied post of stuff not to remove for certain programs.I'd recommend after nLiting your XP install to test it on a virtual machine and load up all the software you intend to use and test it. It can take 4 or 5 builds to get it right.I think msconfig is part of the command line tools in nLite, which is highlighted in red, so just don't remove that. If you do remove it, then put "msconfig.exe" in the Keep Box or whatever msconfig is called, do a find to find the exact name of msconfig.Be careful with the stuff highlighted in red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtwarrior Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 I am still running HFSLIP it has been running for over an hour it is at this point Intergrating Windows 2000- KB904706-DX9-x86-ENU.exe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saugatak Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Something's wrong Dirtwarrior, shouldn't take that long. Post your error log so that we can look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtwarrior Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 It never got that far to make the error report folder. I shall redo. When I use nlite after is there anything I shouldnt remove with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saugatak Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Depends on what programs you run. Look at nLite board. They have a stickied thread which tells you what services programs require.Post the programs you run. I'm pretty good at telling most dependencies. In the end, though, you have to test yourself. You'd be amazed at what stupid things programs you run require. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtwarrior Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I ment just for hfslip. Im pretty good at taking out uneeded things with nlite, I just didnt want it to conflict with hfslip. I have the files for the keep box. In which folder should I put msconfig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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