XtremeMaC Posted February 26, 2005 Posted February 26, 2005 hi there, yea its a wierd question this is what I mean.my internet's has slowed down in the past week, i'm trying to find the reasons behind it, thinking it might be due to my comp, its probably bc of isp but anywaysi tried tracert www.yahoo.com and first thing i realized is that it takes around 30ms to ping my router. i think that's f'ed up, so i'm wondering what ppl get pings from their routers, when i actually ping it i get <1ms but when i tracert any website it takes 30ms. whereas i think it should be not that bad, i'm already planning on getting a wireless router but i haven't really decided, so this might be another reason to switch so thanks for your helpfull commentsjust tracert any website and tell me the results u get from your routers ip, mine's 10.0.0.2, most ppl will have 192.168.1.0 etc..thanks
Zxian Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 Hey there,I usually get about 3-5ms from my router (Linksys BEFW11S4) over wifi. I haven't tried hardwired.Pinging www.google.ca stays at about 42-45ms for me.Are you able to connect a computer directly into the DSL box? It would probably be helpful to compare a direct connection vs a connection via the router.What model of router is it?Cheers!
XtremeMaC Posted February 27, 2005 Author Posted February 27, 2005 its a very stupid one, a friend of mine had suggested it, i'm not going to take any suggestions from him again u probably never heard of it, neither had i, its e-con brand 4 port..wired router crap also functions as modem.i'm not able to connect my comp to the dsl box bc it doesn't exist this hardware does both, modem + router +etc..i've just realized when i don't dl anything and when i tracert any website it shows around 30ms but when i dl a file it goes up to 500-1000ms. i dunno what the hecks up with that.
bart of borg Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 I get 1 ns to my router - linksys wireless router WRT54G - wired7 ms to my ISP 23 ms to google
sven Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 router ping <1msgoogle ping average 130 ms(iv got stuff uploading and downloading, does it affect the ping?)
gamehead200 Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 router ping <1msgoogle ping average 130 ms(iv got stuff uploading and downloading, does it affect the ping?)<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yup.I can't even ping from where I am right now... Stupid network restricts a whole bunch of outgoing ports... :mad:
rendrag Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 <1ms to my router, 68 avg to googlehow do you ping your routerstart -> run -> cmd -> ping <IP of router> router IP is generally your default gateway. You can find that bystart -> run -> cmd -> ipconfig
Ghostrider Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 If it's any help i get 1ms to router, 58ms to ISP and 106ms to google and i was downloading at around 700 kb's via shareaza at the time.
XtremeMaC Posted February 28, 2005 Author Posted February 28, 2005 i've decided to move to linksys wireless, i suddenly convinced my parents that wireless for us would be a better choice thank u all
XtremeMaC Posted February 28, 2005 Author Posted February 28, 2005 ? better as in what?its wireless so no cables in the house for 1.we've laptops in the house as well so they're easily moveable,i like & trust linksys thats another reason to switch.
matrix0978 Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 Yeah i have linksys wired. I havent tried wireless yet. We only reallyhave 1 laptop and thats for my dads office. So theres really no point for me. And then 2 other computers are right next to the router side by side
Tokugawapants Posted March 1, 2005 Posted March 1, 2005 I guess this is becoming a network discussion, but I guess I'll continue a bit. When I first did wireless (I never had wired), it was hell. I don't know if there's something wrong with my house, but it took me 2-3 years to get a decent signal strenght/range throughout the entire house (which is not massive or anything). Now that it works, I think it's awesome, and I wouldn't even think about switching to wired. PSPing to router is 1msPing to google is 26ms
epic Posted March 2, 2005 Posted March 2, 2005 But over all, is wireless better?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>On what conditions? Wireless hinges on the availablility to roam a network with laptops, Portable Data Terminal (aka Scanning Mobile Computer). Wireless is just an add-on to enhance the range of technology that had limited operation. Land line CPE is the most secure and reliable form of data transmission. If you have a laptop or several computers in alternate locations and have 1 CPE/AP in your household or business then, yes, you may benefit from a wireless solution, but ONLY if you needed a roaming AP. However, if you have a couple computers located within the same room it's not recommended. Dont get over hyped on wireless because of sales & marketing. They are just ployed to get you to purchase there products. a subjective question.my internet's has slowed down in the past week, i'm trying to find the reasons behind it, thinking it might be due to my comp, its probably bc of isp but anywaysWho's your ISP do you have DSL or Cable?i tried tracert www.yahoo.com and first thing i realized is that it takes around 30ms to ping my router. i think that's f'ed up30ms is normal for an RT, even considering that it is google. so i'm wondering what ppl get pings from their routers, when i actually ping it i get <1ms but when i tracert any website it takes 30ms. whereas i think it should be not that bad, i'm already planning on getting a wireless router but i haven't really decided, so this might be another reason to switch so thanks for your helpfull commentsjust tracert any website and tell me the results u get from your routers ip, mine's 10.0.0.2, most ppl will have 192.168.1.0 etc..thanks<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Wireless will not change your response time to connect to the CPE or DNS servers in fact it may slow it down. The main reason's you could be seeing a slow response or connection from your ISP or system could be a multitude of issues.1. CPE is showing a incorrect Rx/Tx and needs correction.2. Bad media connection(s) or Physical. (e.g. ethernet cables, power cables, coax cables, router, CPE, network card and/or (drivers)), but not limited to.3. Amount of PC's on your segment or home LAN being used at the time of the issue.4. PC infected with a virus(s).Also, you need to take into consideration network collisions. Even though you may be able to connect to google.com does not guarantee you will connect to yahoo.com and 'NO' ISP can guarantee that for you. Your ISP, or any ISP, rely upon the web of networks to cohesively manage themselves, which allows you as the consumer to browse the net. To make things short.There could also be a number of other possibilites, your ISP could be in flux (upgraded firmware to a router & crashed) happens all the time. This could cause significant downtime or a drag in network performance. Sometimes this may bottleneck networks but larger networks can compensate for this type of problem.I created a small batch file, a couple years ago, that will check connectivity. Open it in notepad, you will need to change a few things between "double quotes". Once your finished rename testbat.txt to testbat.bat or whatever you like but the file extension needs to be changed to --> .bat <-- to run correctly. Once it has completed (5-10min) it will save the output format to c:\ as results.txtEdit: Copy and paste this into a new text document if you do not want to download a file. Once you have edited the commented options save the file as ping.bat You can run this file on a daily basis when you experience the problems and compare the files between the days. You should rename the file corresponding to it's date. This will help you determine if its your ISP or general network conjestion.@ECHO OFFECHO written by bcECHO : Troubleshooting done: >> c:\results.txtECHO :ECHO :ECHO :ECHO !!!! PLEASE WAIT !!!!ECHO COPYRIGHTECHO :ECHO Starting connection diagnosis...ECHO :ECHO Logging System Information. (1)ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> c:\results.txtECHO Logging System Information. (1) >> c:\results.txtipconfig /all >> c:\results.txtECHO Logging Current Connections. (2) ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> c:\results.txtECHO Logging Current Connections. (2) >> c:\results.txtnetstat >> c:\results.txtECHO Logging Interface List/Active Routes. (3)ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> c:\results.txtECHO Logging Interface List/Active Routes. (3) >> c:\results.txtroute print >> c:\results.txtECHO Logging Interface Access. (4)ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> c:\results.txtECHO Logging Interface Access. (4) >> c:\results.txtarp -a >> c:\results.txtECHO Logging Internal IP stack. (5)ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> C:\results.txtECHO Logging Internal IP stack. (5) >> c:\results.txtping 127.0.0.1 -n 10 >> c:\results.txtECHO Logging Added Primary DNS Stats. (5a)ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> C:\results.txtECHO Logging Added DNS Stats. >> c:\results.txtping 24.196.48.39 -n 10 >> c:\results.txt (Enter your DNS#1 IP settings WITHOUT the quotes! Do not change any other format! REMOVE THIS COMMENT AFTER!!!)tracert 24.196.48.39 >> c:\results.txt (Enter your DNS#1 IP settings WITHOUT the quotes! Do not change any other format! REMOVE THIS COMMENT AFTER!!!)ECHO Logging Added Secondary DNS Stats. (5b) ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> C:\results.txtECHO Logging Added DNS Stats. >> c:\results.txtping 68.115.71.53 -n 10 >> c:\results.txt (Enter your DNS#2 IP Do not change any other format! REMOVE THIS COMMENT AFTER!!!)tracert 68.115.71.53 >> c:\results.txt (Enter your DNS#2 IP Do not change any other format! REMOVE THIS COMMENT AFTER!!!)ECHO Logging Added Designated Modem IP. (5c)ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> C:\results.txtECHO Logging Added Designated Modem IP. >> c:\results.txtping 192.168.100.1 -n 10 >> c:\results.txt (Enter your ROUTER IP or GATEWAY IP Do not change any other format! REMOVE THIS COMMENT AFTER!!!)tracert 192.168.100.1 >> c:\results.txt (Enter your ROUTER IP or GATEWAY IP Do not change any other format! REMOVE THIS COMMENT AFTER!!!)ECHO Logging Domain Ping Stats of your ISP WWW. (6)ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> C:\results.txtECHO Logging Domain Ping Stats of your ISP WWW. (6) >> c:\results.txtping "www.myisp.com" -n 10 >> c:\results.txt (Enter your ISP's WWW URL Do not change any other format! REMOVE THIS COMMENT AFTER!!!)ECHO Logging Domain Trace Routes to your ISP WWW. (7)ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> C:\results.txtECHO Logging Domain Trace Routes to your ISP WWW. (7) >> c:\results.txttracert "www.myisp.com" >> c:\results.txt (Enter your ISP's WWW URL Do not change any other format! REMOVE THIS COMMENT AFTER!!!)ECHO Logging Domain Ping Stats www.pcmag.com. (8)ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> C:\results.txtECHO Logging Ping Stats www.pcmag.com. (8) >> c:\results.txtping www.pcmag.com -n 10 >> c:\results.txt (You may edit WWW URL from this line and below, however it is not neccesary to change it! REMOVE THIS COMMENT AFTER!!!)ECHO Logging Domain Trace Routes www.pcmag.com. (9)ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> C:\results.txtECHO Logging Domain Trace Routes www.pcmag.com. (9) >> c:\results.txttracert www.pcmag.com >> c:\results.txtECHO Logging IP Ping Stats www.pcmag.com. (10) ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> C:\results.txtECHO Logging IP Ping Stats www.pcmag.com. (10) >> c:\results.txtping 63.111.13.100 -n 10 >> c:\results.txtECHO Logging IP Trace Routes www.pcmag.com (11)ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> C:\results.txtECHO Logging IP Trace Routes www.pcmag.com (11) >> c:\results.txttracert 63.111.13.100 >> c:\results.txtECHO Logging Domain Ping Stats www.google.com. (12)ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> C:\results.txtECHO Logging Domain Ping Stats www.google.com. (12) >> c:\results.txtping www.google.com -n 10 >> c:\results.txtECHO Logging Domain Trace Routes www.google.com. (13)ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> C:\results.txtECHO Logging Domain Trace Routes www.google.com. (13) >> c:\results.txttracert www.google.com >> c:\results.txtECHO Logging IP Ping Stats www.google.com. (14)ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> C:\results.txtECHO Logging IP Ping Stats www.google.com. (14) >> c:\results.txtping 216.239.35.101 -n 10 >> c:\results.txtECHO Logging IP Trace Route www.google.com. (15)ECHO ---------------------------------------------------- >> C:\results.txtECHO Logging IP Trace Route www.google.com. (15) >> c:\results.txttracert 216.239.35.101 >> c:\results.txtECHO :ECHO :ECHO Process complete!ECHO :pauseexittestbat.txt
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