jaclaz Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 I would not be so pessimistic.Most modern BIOS have "bootblock" code, so they can be recovered, I would try that first, then hot-swap (as you need to find an identical motherboard).Amptron has made a nice simple howto that covers BOTH methods; you can find it here:http://www.amptron.com/http://www.amptron.com/documents/Recover.pdfRead these also:http://www.amptron.com/html/bios-what.htmlhttp://www.amptron.com/html/bios.beepcodes.htmlhttp://www.amptron.com/html/Bios-recover.htmlhttp://www.amptron.com/html/utilities.htmljaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puntoMX Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 ... then hot-swap (as you need to find an identical motherboard)....No you don´t need an identical mobo, just the same kind of BIOSes, ig. from AWARD. But to recover it is the best way, if you have waranty then use that, last one hotswap BIOS . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 No you don´t need an identical mobo, just the same kind of BIOSes, ig. from AWARD.Yes, that was what I meant, sorry for the confusion. jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prathapml Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 got caught by a troll. (Who later edited and added to his post <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hmm..... ain't this so weird actually, BeenThereB4?We go to tech sites where its expected that everyone would keep up the correct behaviour but still arguments explode between intelligent people!Oh well, make efforts to keep the community feeling postive here guys.And to astalavista, PLEASE don't go and edit old posts when it shows you in poor light - because people will think "changing what you said" is childish behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astalavista Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 looking back at what i wrote. I felt the need to correct myself.I felt that i might hv been to hard on him. So i corrected and modifiedmy post. When i post and someone corrects me and i deem it valid and correct. I immediately remove or edit my post to remove any confusion.I certainly don’t go about like my word is GOD. We are but human we make mistakes.Using the term “check your facts” was irritating to say the least.As I said before the goal here is not to argue but to help the person that posted this issue.As I remarked before this has happen to me. And it isn’t a big deal u can alwaysPurchase a replacement chip.I believe that beenthereb4 wording was not so nice. Well to me. When Drew made the same comment he did not use the same Wording.I found several articles that support my position and i posted them withmy remark. I do apologize if editing my post is deemed childish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Pardon me, but it seems to me like we are going completely astray from the scope of the board and from the original question:Can someone lend me a hand here? I accidently flashed my BIOS with a file from another manufacturer and now my system won't boot. The system just starts up and shuts down a second later. I can't reflash it because i cant boot from anything or see anything. Please help, tia.Only valid answers are, in the CORRECT order:1) Try to use the bootblock feature (NO risk, NO cost, NO need to open case)2) Try to hot swap (possible RISK, NO cost, NEED to open case AND find other motherboard/bios cheap3) Ask for professional help for changing/reflashing the BIOS, i.e. manufacturer/ht_tp://www.recoverybios.com/ (NO risk, possible COST, NEED to open case)4) Buy a new motherboard (NO risk, COST, NEED to open case)5) Buy a complete new PC (NO risk, HIGH COST, NO need to open case)6) Do any of points 3), 4) or 5) through an on-site Computer service ((NO risk, HIGHER COST, NO need to open case)7) Put house/office to fire and claim for insurance (HIGH RISK (of being jailed), NO cost, NO need to open case)Whilst we ALL agree, I think, that points 1) and 2) above are NOT 100% safe or fool proof, I reckon they do seem worth a try, if compared to subsequent options.Starting an answer from point 3) is simply not what is expected on a tech site like this, where the scope is to HELP people and LEARN new things.I am sorry that the start of the quarrel originates from a (partially wrong as per above) Moderator post, but Astalavista attitude, and BeenThereB4 reaction (though understandable), besides adding nothing factual to the thread is even LESS expected on this tech site.jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astalavista Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I am sorry that the start of the quarrel originates from a (partially wrong as per above) Moderator post, but Astalavista attitude, and BeenThereB4 reaction (though understandable), besides adding nothing factual to the thread is even LESS expected on this tech site.I agree with u one hundred percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted February 19, 2005 Author Share Posted February 19, 2005 I havent posted back not because i dont find the information helpful, but because its kinda hard to access the internet with a broken BIOS. I know that replacing the BIOS is an option, but i really dont want to do that. I dont know whats a bootblock, so could someone please explain? My mobo is a MS-6390(Microstar). I was hoping that theres a tool to reflash the bios externally. thanks for all the help thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Daos,did you read the documents I linked to in my post above?Amptron has made a nice simple howto that covers BOTH methods; you can find it here:http://www.amptron.com/http://www.amptron.com/documents/Recover.pdfRead these also:http://www.amptron.com/html/bios-what.htmlhttp://www.amptron.com/html/bios.beepcodes.htmlhttp://www.amptron.com/html/Bios-recover.htmlhttp://www.amptron.com/html/utilities.htmlAll you have to DOUBLE CHECK if the BIOS is AWARD(the MS-6390 should be AWARD), then READ this too:http://www.msicomputer.com/support/BIOS_Award_Recovery.aspDownload the appropriate BIOS:could be EITHER of the following:http://216.158.218.35/edoc/bios_uploads/6390v26.ziphttp://216.158.218.35/edoc/bios_uploads/6390v18.zip(cannot say WHICH, sorry)Do what is written in the instructions.jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehead200 Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 normally when flashing the bios it should tell u that u hv a incorrent or incompatible version. as gamehead says no turning back.what kind of motherboard do u hv? and model number?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>When did I say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 When did I say that?On the 14th, when you logged in as Drewdatrip, LOL! jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 My computer cant boot from anything, so MSI's method doesnt work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Does it beep?As your motherboard is fairly recent, so that I am sure you have the bootblock part on your BIOS, (and that part cannot be rewritten), if at boot time the PC doesn't attempt to read from floppy, it means that your motherboard has another problem, and the only way (apart from a POST card) is to listen to beep codes:http://www.amptron.com/html/bios.beepcodes.htmljaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puntoMX Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I like to add that not all mother boards give these beeps, but MSI board will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astalavista Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 As i suspected in the first place.I went to my friends shop here in Manila he sells motherboardsI asked him about this issue and he said like i said that 99% u willhv to replace the chip.He is the expert in this field since it is his living.New Motherboards will not allow u to flash them with incorrect code.It will reject the bios if it does not the sequence in which it was hard coded with.Vindicated at last! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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