atomizer Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 @DL - i had to break up my reply. the length had something to do with the formatting problem."The Chicago Tribune, The Guardian, The Telegraph, The BBC and The LA Times" reputable? No, they aren't.If they are not generally reputable, then they generally lie. What evidence do you have to supports this?"FBI HAS NO HARD EVIDENCE", I believe that has been proven otherwise lately and no, I am not going to go chasing down the info.You're missing the point which is that the invasion of Afganistan was based on the alledged fact that Usama bin Laden orchristrated the attacks. If this was a fact, why was he, and why is not currently wanted for anything connected to 9/11 by the FBI?FBI page: http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htmre basment explosions: Unfortunately, the surviving firemen who have been interviewed and the radio calls never state or show anything like that.Totally incorrect. The main stream media hasn't reported it.William Rodriguez presentationPt4) Pre Collapse -- Sub Basement Explosionsbombs wtc basementPt7) The shifted slurry Walls - retaining walls of basementwaitness to explosions/basement collapse (911 mysteries pt2)Dozens of first responders and eyewitnesses reported the same thing. This was all kept out of the 9/11 commission report. There are several videos that clearly show, both in video and audio, that at least one major explosion occured in the besements ~9 to 12 seconds before the collapses, but they're not going to seek you out -- you have to do the research. There's also sisemic evidence that suggests the same.You also made a point that you were suprised that the pile was so small. It is interesting you mention that, because many experts had the same question. When the buildings collapsed (including 7), the pile was actually smaller than it should have been. The reason is that almost ALL of the concrete was pulverized into dust ~100 microns in size (which, according the EPA, was safe to breath of course, along with the asbestos). This is also completely impossible in a natural collapse. Demolition is something i have some expierence with and i don't care how high the towers were, concrete does absolutly not ever turn to dust, be it freshly cured or 50 years old. This is even more true with WTC 7, which did the same thing. The only explanation i have been able to find that would cause this is an immediate and drastic rise in temperature. Such a condition would vaporize the moisture in the concrete and cause it to literally explode.Also, buildings very rarely, if ever, simply fall into their own basements -- they topple -- yet 3 steel buildings, for the first time in history, all collapsed, due to fire, all in one day, and all symmetrically into their own basement. In the case of 7, you can actually see the "kink" in the roof prior to collapse. Again, this is typical demolition stuff (the kink is the result of inner supporting members being cut first to facilitate an implosion, rather then an explosion).I'll be glad to entertain any reasonable explanation offered to any of the points discussed, but speculation doesn't cut it. Explain to me why Atta would carry with him his will (convenient for the government)on a mission to fly a plane into the WTC. Would you?Explain why a bunch of terrorists so dedicated to their religion would be seen getting drunk and paying for lap dances in a stripper club a day before the attack and, again, conveniently enough for the government, leave a copy of the Coran and their business cards behind. Explain to me how intelligence form Egypt, Argentina, Morocco, Brittan, Germany and Russia all warned the US about impending attacks, including "planes" and "buildings" and "New York", yet the administration says "i don't think anybody could have imagined.......". Explain the 6-Aug PDB titled "bin Laden Determined to Strike in the US". Explain the long and well known relationship between the Bush and bin Laden family and why that has no bearing on 9/11.This stuff is hard to swallow and i know it is. It is not at all comfortable for anyone. There are times when i swear that i do NOT want to be right, especially with this stuff. But once i started investigating, i went at it tooth and nail and i did not care where the chips fell. I wanted the TRUTH. Period. I went at it with the belief that the official story was at least close to the truth, but i was forced to change that belief as the mountains of evidence rolled in. It seems impossible that this can be kept under cover, but where do most of us get our news? CNN? FOX? AOL/Time Warner? When you learn that these corporations are owned by massive government contractors and have members of corporate oil sitting on their boards, then you understand exactly how a lid can be placed on this. The whistle blowers are coming out of the woodwork, but you have to find them, because you're not going to hear about it on CNN when the most important thing they are covering is Michael Jackson's sexual preferences.If you have evidence (not speculation) that can compromise anything i have stated, then please let it be known. If not, then i suggest to all of you; please research this on your own. Read the NIST report. Find out why the EPA said the air was safe. Learn about false-flag operations and why what happened on 9/11 is nothing out of the ordinary.Watch the 3 videos linked to in the first post.I'm sure we can ALL agree that the government has lied to us many times in the past. Is there any reason to believe they never will again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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