alexthetechie1 Posted August 17 Posted August 17 (edited) Dell Dimension 2400 Specs.txt I am trying to install windows 98 SE on my DD 2400 (specs listed above) i can get everything to work except the GPU (Onboard GPU works if there is no PCI GPU card Installed at all) the cards ive tested were "GeForce2 MX 400 64MB PCI" and "GeForce4 MX 4000 128MB PCI" occasionally id get a "windows protection error" after messing around with Resources / conflicted I/O in device manager then installing the Nvidia driver (version 82.69 unofficial) ive even tried 81.98 (official) still no luck Current PCI GPU: EVGA Nvidia GeForce 6200 PCI 256MB DDR2 any suggestions?? Edited August 19 by alexthetechie1
Saxon Posted August 17 Posted August 17 11 hours ago, alexthetechie1 said: a "windows protection error" From my distant memories, it's purely driver related. Probably dead, dying GPU with VRAM errors. 1
alexthetechie1 Posted August 17 Author Posted August 17 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Saxon said: From my distant memories, it's purely driver related. Probably dead, dying GPU with VRAM errors. The GeForce 6200 was brand new in box plus it works just fine on XP and 2000 This is what i get in device manager: "This device cannot find any free Input/Output range (I/O) resources to use (code 12)" Edited August 17 by alexthetechie1
Saxon Posted August 18 Posted August 18 15 hours ago, alexthetechie1 said: This is what i get in device manager: "This device cannot find any free Input/Output range (I/O) resources to use (code 12)" Windows XP working correctly. Win98 error on bootup https://forums.majorgeeks.com/threads/display-adapter-conflict.165452/ 1
alexthetechie1 Posted August 18 Author Posted August 18 (edited) 13 hours ago, Saxon said: Windows XP working correctly. Win98 error on bootup https://forums.majorgeeks.com/threads/display-adapter-conflict.165452/ So when setting up Windows 98 I entered this into the dos prompt after formatting drive C setup /p i And I also have over 512mb of ram (1015mb) which boots fine but I installed the ram patch just to prevent issues ill keep you posted if this works Edited August 18 by alexthetechie1
alexthetechie1 Posted August 18 Author Posted August 18 the graphics driver works (ver. 82.69) however 1440x900 which is native for my monitor doesn't work it just puts my monitor to sleep 1360x768 works on a 1440x900 monitor but doesn't look that sharp sadly
pangoomis Posted August 19 Posted August 19 Are you using VGA or DVI? What is the model of the monitor? What GPU you use for testing now? You've mentioned three models.
alexthetechie1 Posted August 19 Author Posted August 19 (edited) 4 hours ago, pangoomis said: Are you using VGA or DVI? What is the model of the monitor? What GPU you use for testing now? You've mentioned three models. DVI - Dell S199FWP GeForce 6200 256MB PCI DDR2 DX9 Edited August 19 by alexthetechie1
D.Draker Posted August 19 Posted August 19 On 8/18/2024 at 1:24 PM, alexthetechie1 said: graphics driver works (ver. 82.69) however 1440x900 which is native for my monitor doesn't work it just puts my monitor to sleep Try to lower the refresh rate, from 75Hz to 60Hz, for example.
alexthetechie1 Posted August 19 Author Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, D.Draker said: Try to lower the refresh rate, from 75Hz to 60Hz, for example. I tried that i just get a black screen at boot, I'm probably just going to stick with windows ME, it seems to work a lot better and no need for the "Setup /p i" setup switch at the beginning in DOS
D.Draker Posted August 19 Posted August 19 13 hours ago, alexthetechie1 said: I tried that i just get a black screen at boot, I'm probably just going to stick with windows ME, it seems to work a lot better and no need for the "Setup /p i" setup switch at the beginning in DOS ME is indeed better, I had it for many years, 60Hz is pretty much very standard, strange.
alexthetechie1 Posted August 19 Author Posted August 19 (edited) 30 minutes ago, D.Draker said: ME is indeed better, I had it for many years, 60Hz is pretty much very standard, strange. yea ME was better on older hardware / hardware designed for it. 98SE ran fine with no drivers whatsoever but after each driver was installed it became more unstable - occasionally booting into safe mode randomly , refusing to shut down / randomly it would power itself off when entering sleep mode (then engaging scandisk) maybe its the Pentium 4 but who knows Edited August 19 by alexthetechie1
D.Draker Posted August 19 Posted August 19 11 hours ago, alexthetechie1 said: yea ME was better on older hardware / hardware designed for it. 98SE ran fine with no drivers whatsoever but after each driver was installed it became more unstable - occasionally booting into safe mode randomly , refusing to shut down / randomly it would power itself off when entering sleep mode (then engaging scandisk) maybe its the Pentium 4 but who knows Good luck with your new setup!
defuser Posted August 20 Posted August 20 (edited) Hi. I also have the pleasure of encountering the problem of a black screen when logging in. To deal with this, I'm still using a workaround (temporary solution). Added a shortcut to "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp" that reads as follows: C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL32.EXE NvCpl.dll,dtcfg setmode 1 1920 1080 32 144 And it works. After logging in, the permission specified in the shortcut is automatically applied and the image appears. In your case, replace the last digits with "1440 900 32 60" or " 1440 900 32 75 "(try this or that). And replace the number "1" at the beginning with the number "2", if the monitor is connected to your second number. At the same time, the specified modes must also be entered in the register: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0000\MODES\8\1440,900] @="60" "ModeRefreshRateList"="60,75" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0000\MODES\16\1440,900] @="60" "ModeRefreshRateList"="60,75" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0000\MODES\32\1440,900] @="60" "ModeRefreshRateList"="60,75" And here you may need to replace "0000" with some value of your own (0000, 0001, 0002, and so on), corresponding to the serial number of the video card you are using. Look up this number at this path in the registry. You can also initially modify the installation INF for the driver by adding these modes there and reinstalling. The disadvantage of this solution is that the "StartUp" folder is processed AFTER logging in. Therefore, if you do not have automatic login configured and you need to enter your username and password manually every time - you will have to do it blindly. I'm not sure, though, if there is an option in 9x to execute a command BEFORE logging in. If this is the case, then in principle you can try to avoid this problem. You can view everything that your monitor supports in EDID: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/linuxhw/EDID/master/Digital/Dell/DELF00A/B10E0A4F3801 Everything in the "Standard Timings:" and "Detailed Timing Descriptors:" sections should be added to the registry or initially registered in INF. Since you are using a modified driver, also check if you have DDC enabled: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0000\DEFAULT] "DDC"="1" Edited August 20 by defuser
alexthetechie1 Posted August 20 Author Posted August 20 8 hours ago, defuser said: Hi. I also have the pleasure of encountering the problem of a black screen when logging in. To deal with this, I'm still using a workaround (temporary solution). Added a shortcut to "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp" that reads as follows: C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL32.EXE NvCpl.dll,dtcfg setmode 1 1920 1080 32 144 And it works. After logging in, the permission specified in the shortcut is automatically applied and the image appears. In your case, replace the last digits with "1440 900 32 60" or " 1440 900 32 75 "(try this or that). And replace the number "1" at the beginning with the number "2", if the monitor is connected to your second number. At the same time, the specified modes must also be entered in the register: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0000\MODES\8\1440,900] @="60" "ModeRefreshRateList"="60,75" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0000\MODES\16\1440,900] @="60" "ModeRefreshRateList"="60,75" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0000\MODES\32\1440,900] @="60" "ModeRefreshRateList"="60,75" And here you may need to replace "0000" with some value of your own (0000, 0001, 0002, and so on), corresponding to the serial number of the video card you are using. Look up this number at this path in the registry. You can also initially modify the installation INF for the driver by adding these modes there and reinstalling. The disadvantage of this solution is that the "StartUp" folder is processed AFTER logging in. Therefore, if you do not have automatic login configured and you need to enter your username and password manually every time - you will have to do it blindly. I'm not sure, though, if there is an option in 9x to execute a command BEFORE logging in. If this is the case, then in principle you can try to avoid this problem. You can view everything that your monitor supports in EDID: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/linuxhw/EDID/master/Digital/Dell/DELF00A/B10E0A4F3801 Everything in the "Standard Timings:" and "Detailed Timing Descriptors:" sections should be added to the registry or initially registered in INF. Since you are using a modified driver, also check if you have DDC enabled: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0000\DEFAULT] "DDC"="1" it still does not work for me
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