win9x: how work with drivers?

[Joaquim]

speaking on win 95/98/ME/2000: the problem will be, most of time, the drivers...

the best is when we know the driver ID and Vendor.... so how can we get that values? we need use another program?

[bmw]

siv32L works great for getting that info.  Find here - http://rh-software.com/

[Joaquim]

I get the Acer aspire 1690 winxp, but i can't install them on win98.

What you can advice?

[Gansangriff]

So you have an Acer Aspire 1690? I think, it's too new to get Windows 98 running on it. Windows XP drivers rarely work on Windows 98.

[MERCURY127]

On 2/14/2021 at 10:53 PM, Joaquim said:

the best is when we know the driver ID and Vendor.... so how can we get that values? we need use another program?

HWINFO (free), AIDA64 (trial)...

[pangoomis]

I can also suggest HP System Diagnostics. 
This and other suggestions you can find here:
https://msfn.org/board/topic/179593-alternative-device-manager-for-win98/

[Joaquim]

More late i Will test.

Why the Win98 UBCD:

-isnt update with '/p i' on setup? I tested a bridge error.

- isnt update with new device manager?

-isnt update with some drivers program?

 

 

[MERCURY127]

20 minutes ago, Joaquim said:

Win98 UBCD:

what it is?

[Joaquim]

it's windows 98 SE, but updated... by experience, i prefere the win98 SE original with AutoPatcher ;)
for now i'm trying getting the USB working for use the pen... because it's better than burning CD\DVD hehehehe

[Joaquim]

1st uknow device: "PCI Mass Storage Controller"
vender: 104;  device: 8033
chip Device: PCIXX11/21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller"
i did several downloads without sucess: https://www.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=869508
can anyone explain why isn't installed? the "uminst.exe" isn't executed, i get error: "the difxapi.dll file is linked to missing export NTDLL.dll:VerSetConditionMask"
how can i get right drivers?
ok... some problems i get with sound and video drivers too
i can share the vendor and device, but lets try fix these driver 1st

more: i try it install manually, but the System didn't find the driver... so maybe isn't these the right driver

after install AutoPatcher and install the USB3e.exe, the pen works now(fat32)

Edited February 16, 2021 by Joaquim

[Joaquim]

thanks to: https://mega.nz/file/PkJQxIqL#bpIRK007BusG1aFs2bo_Fc0vZANV2z9KVjDZAJpizhY
i get the "PCIXX11/21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller" driver.
the sound driver: vendor: 8086 device: 266D
intel corporation 82801fb (ICH6) AC'97 Modem controller

"note: AC'97 detection is unreliable"
can anyone advice me more about these driver?
i'm doing several things without sucess

Edited February 16, 2021 by Joaquim

[MERCURY127]

in real life 9x need just bit patches:
- ESDI506.PDR from BHDD or TBP, and/or AHCI.PDR if ur machine work in ahci mode;
- RLP;
- NUSB;
- "-p i" switch for incompatble acpi bios;
- directX,. video and sound;
all other - garbage.

if u talk about this machine:
http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/acer-aspire-1690-review-pics-specs/
then machine look as fully compatible...

get AIDA64 https://www.aida64.com/downloads
run it under 98 (not XP!),
select Report/Wizard/Custom/uncheck All but Devices (other get bsod)/Plaintext,
save to file, compress with zip and upload here...
then i try find really needed drivers for u.

 

[Joaquim]

"if u talk about this machine:"
YES

"run it under 98 (not XP!)"
i choose 'winxp sp2' on compatible mode(kernelex32.dll).

heres the report.. please try find my unknow drivers.
thanks for all

Report.zip

Edited February 17, 2021 by Joaquim
add the report

[MERCURY127]

14 hours ago, Joaquim said:

i choose 'winxp sp2' on compatible mode(kernelex32.dll).

why? i clearly say - run in 98 (NOT XP)!
aida work in 9x w/o kex!
ur actions with kex can give wrong data for aida!

ok, wait, i go find drivers...
think u need drivers only for these devices:

    Other devices:
      PCI Card                                          
      PCI Ethernet Controller                           
      PCI Network Controller                            

yes?

Edited February 18, 2021 by MERCURY127

[Joaquim]

And bluetooth too. Sound and video and infrared. Seems what is missing.

I know what you Said. But i didnt get choose. Because i get an error when i try install. ONLY on installation.

The computer have a memória card reader. What cards can read?

Edited February 18, 2021 by Joaquim