TELVM Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 Long story short, I've managed to install & run W7 x64 on an X570 board. No small feat. Basically followed this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6_MdxMUpRE The heretical concoction runs amazingly well, save for a little too long boot time (about 16 seconds from the Windows 7 "meatballs" getting together to desktop, should be 1 to 3 seconds tops). Investigating with the Event Viewer I've found this: But I haven't the foggiest idea on how to deal with this gremlin . Though I suspect the beta USB 3.0 drivers for Windows 7 on X570 might be related to the problem ... Any help or ideas would be much appreciated!
Tripredacus Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 A good explanation of the boot process by our old friend: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-performance/sudden-slow-reboot/7e4d38c2-8c2e-4e19-a2aa-c60bb5b62b75?auth=1 Using a spinning disk or SSD? I come to think of boot time as being important only if uptime is not important.
TELVM Posted August 25, 2020 Author Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) SSD (SATA3 for now; the next round of headaches will be trying to boot W7 from an M.2 NVMe one ). I can live with the extra 13 secs of boot time, but it is annoying. All my other PCs boot up lightning quick and I'm spoiled . I suspect the "special" beta USB 3.0 drivers for W7 on X570 are connected to the problem, because before them the time from "meatballs together" to desktop was just ~2 seconds. But right after installing these drivers the problem appeared and that time grew to ~16 secs: Edited August 25, 2020 by TELVM
jaclaz Posted August 26, 2020 Posted August 26, 2020 Semi-random thought, but maybe - just maybe - you can tweak loading settings for that driver/service. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/install/specifying-driver-load-order jaclaz
TELVM Posted August 27, 2020 Author Posted August 27, 2020 Thanks for the idea, Jaclaz. These are the "OEM" loading settings: X570_149C_Drivers_B2\USB DRIVER\AMD_USB3.2_WinA_Beta_9.0_7052\AMDXHCI.INF [AMDHub3.AddService] DisplayName = %AMD_HUB3.DriverDesc% ServiceType = 1 ; SERVICE_KERNEL_DRIVER StartType = 3 ; SERVICE_DEMAND_START ErrorControl = 1 ; SERVICE_ERROR_NORMAL ServiceBinary = %10%\System32\Drivers\AMDHub3.sys LoadOrderGroup = Base X570_149C_Drivers_B2\USB DRIVER\amdhub31\amdhub31.inf [amdhub31_service] DisplayName=%amdhub31_ServiceDescription% ServiceType=1 StartType=3 ErrorControl=1 ServiceBinary=%12%\amdhub31.sys LoadOrderGroup=Base AddReg=WinToGo_amdhub31.AddReg X570_149C_Drivers_B2\USB DRIVER\amdxhc31\amdxhc31.inf [amdxhc31_service] DisplayName=%amdxhc31_ServiceDescription% ServiceType=1 StartType=3 ErrorControl=1 ServiceBinary=%12%\amdxhc31.sys LoadOrderGroup=Base AddReg=WinToGo_amdxhc31.AddReg Any suggestions on how to fiddle with them?
jaclaz Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 Hmmm. No. Those drivers are seemingly Kernel drivers and SERVICE_DEMAND_START (PnP), in this case (I believe) the LoadOrderGroup is ignored. I think that you can try disabling them (setting StartType=4) without uninstalling them and see if they are the actual culprits. You can also try using loadord: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/loadorder to see how they "fit" in load order, then try changing the LoadOrderGroup to something "later" than "Base", the list is in : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\ServiceGroupOrder but I don't think it may change anything Be warned, there is a risk the thingy will BSOD/hang, so have handy a way out. jaclaz
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