nostaglic98 Posted June 27, 2013 Posted June 27, 2013 So I got my Ensoniq ES1370 in the mail the other day (without driver CD - thanks alot eBay seller for your "uninstalled" card) - it works fine in Windows 2000.I've tried downloading the "Driver" (Ensoniq AudioPCI) from the Creative website. Double click, it "updates" the driver database. I reboot, Windows 98 has a "Found New Hardware" moment. I select "Creative" then "Ensoniq AudioPCI." Of course, it starts asking for files from the "Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI Disk" - and you expect me to have that? I thought I just installed a driver for this!?!?!This card is supposed to be compatible. Its not. I've also tried "AudioPCI Legacy" from the menu. It doesn't ask for files, but gives a "Code 2" error in Device Manager, as well as trying ALL the Soundblaster choices. No avail. And Yes, I've searched the ESS Drivers list too. Any suggestions?
submix8c Posted June 27, 2013 Posted June 27, 2013 According to this (and from my own recollection, as I DO have it "stored" somewhere) -http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/184370-48-ensoniq-audio-es1370You SHOULD have downloaded "epw9xup.exe" and should ALSO need a "2mb Waveset for AudioPCI cards". (for MIDI support)IF that's what you downloaded, the it SHOULD have worked. That "package" should be a simple compressed Installer that can be decompressed with (eg) WinZip, WinRAR, or 7-Zip so WHAT is within that "package". Got a list?Scratch all that. The TomsHardware instructions are still valid but the links to the software are here -http://support.creative.com/downloads/?h=7Pick the Win98 SE one and the files that are listed (according to the SIZE in the TomsHardware link) should be what you get.You MAY have picked the wrong one (the FIRST one)? Follow the instruction in the TomsHardware link and get JUST THOSE and try again.
nostaglic98 Posted June 28, 2013 Author Posted June 28, 2013 Unfortunately, I used this guide before. It didn't say which AudioPCI option to use when Windows discovers the hardware. Adding to that, the 2mb wave set gives a 404 error or something... And I wouldn't have a clue as to how I should install the file - the only file available today is the 8mb wave set.This is difficult! I wonder what I'm to do now...
submix8c Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) To keep this Topic connected -Looking for your "solution"...edit - HOW did you get a "404"? Did you go to the Creative link I provided? I just downloaded the Wave "eapci2m.ecw" right-clicking the "download" and opening the link in a NewTab/Window, clicked "Agree" and there it was!Side note - downloaded the FIRST one as well as the "suggested" one (from TomsHardware link), unpacked it and it APPEARS to have all you need.edit2 - try these. FIRST do "safe mode" and Uninstall any "Sound Card" stuff that's related to "Creative", "Ensoniq", "SB", or "SoundBlaster" and LEAVE THE REST!http://www.stéen.se/share/pcprog/win/sound/index.html.1HTH (note - found based on Ensoniq Website on WebArchive filenames) Edited June 28, 2013 by submix8c
nostaglic98 Posted June 28, 2013 Author Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) Still get a 404 error - File not found (screenshot below for your convenience). At this link: http://ccfiles.creative.com/manualdn/Drivers/Others/262/eapci2m.ecwNow, I should correct an error made below: The only waveset I can attempt to download without 404 errors is the 4mb waveset. When you unzip, you get the .ecw file inside - which is what you place inside your \Windows\System folder, correct? The other issue seems to be in Safemode, even with a dodgy "driver" installed (for the wrong card), you cannot find any evidence of sound hardware, except the onboard stuff. Restarting, Windows "alerts" you it has found a "new" PCI Multimedia device. Do I skip this and *just* run the "driver" installation program, then skip the prompts made by Windows for the new hardware again or am I supposed to do something? I ask this, as it seems if you actually do something (and select the newly created "Ensoniq AudioPCI" from the Creative list, you are prompted for the Driver CD - which I don't have, and is why I downloaded that file in the first place) - note that checking out the "ESS" menu shows no sign of an "AudioPCI" or "ES1370" - just ES models higher/lower than mine.Edit~ It seems in one of the files I've tried downloading recently (from elsewhere) "ES1370wdm," I have the 2mb waveset. I will attempt to run this installation program and see where it goes from there, though if I specify the driver in there to Windows via the "New Hardware" wizard, Windows grinds to a halt - almost during startup. The moving line at the bottom jerks along every 5 seconds or so and Keyboard response time is poor. I'm not sure if it would make it, and haven't been patient enough yet to let it run through with that particular driver. I'll have a "looksee" and see what I can do on that front. Edited June 28, 2013 by nostaglic98
nostaglic98 Posted June 29, 2013 Author Posted June 29, 2013 Nope. Still isn't working. Removed drivers in Safe-Mode, rebooted, cancelled the "Found Hardware" wizard, "installed" what is apparently the driver, rebooted and still nothing. I don't know who wrote that Tom's Hardware guide, but you actually have to tell Windows 98 which driver to use - it won't figure this out itself unless you use the correct one. So I'm out of luck: AGAIN!
pangoomis Posted June 29, 2013 Posted June 29, 2013 (I assume you use Windows 98 Second Edition.)VMware uses ES1371, but the drivers are the same as for the ES1370, download them here (as you have problems with the official links):http://www.sendspace.com/file/7qiiw3They also have a 8MB Waveset, the biggest one available.Once you download them, follow the instructions here:http://www.techbug.com/en/knowledge-base/289/
nostaglic98 Posted June 29, 2013 Author Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) Still not working. Apparently, the installer cannot detect any "Creative" or Ensoniq hardware onboard. I snatched some files from the Temp folder before the installer deleted them, and installed the driver inside those folders (As an Ensoniq AudioPCI Legacy device, then update the driver to the one supplied). System hangs after reboot, and I need "administrative" privileges to access where you would install the wavesets. So it seems my device is something inbetween the two companies! I might have to try installing as a regular AudioPCI just to get the installer to work or try installing the drivers onto a Soundblaster driver. I should that No BIOS settings should interfere: Windows 2000 on the same machine works FINE with the card (no drivers needed, either - and they also claim I don't have appropriate hardware for the drivers installed!)Edit - Here is "what else" is on the Soundcard. It says: Ensoniq 9720 - plus some numbers that seem to be different depending on the card: E375607. Revision E. Main chip on board says "AudioPCI ES1370." Edited June 29, 2013 by nostaglic98
pangoomis Posted June 29, 2013 Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) Try these drivers (I hope they are not the same you've tried before): These are made specifically for ES1370, and are used by QEMU for Windows 98 emulation, so they should work.http://www.sendspace.com/file/z18nthEDIT: Is this your card?:http://images.bidorbuy.co.za/user_images/523/269523_110801133949_IMG_8787.jpg Edited June 29, 2013 by MrMateczko
nostaglic98 Posted June 29, 2013 Author Posted June 29, 2013 Try these drivers (I hope they are not the same you've tried before): These are made specifically for ES1370, and are used by QEMU for Windows 98 emulation, so they should work.http://www.sendspace.com/file/z18nthEDIT: Is this your card?:http://images.bidorbuy.co.za/user_images/523/269523_110801133949_IMG_8787.jpgTHANK-YOU! It finally WORKED! I will be backing up these files at least 5 or 6 times to ensure they are SAFE!No more crackly Windows sounds! Canyon - Wow... Talk about new age sound!
submix8c Posted June 30, 2013 Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) FWIW, I believe the confusion is the NAME of the card. (Would have searched earlier, but was "out".)At the Ensoniq page (from WebArchiveDOTorg) it stated "64v" so your card is REALLY an ""Ensoniq Audiopci 64v" and I have a slightly better/newer version than you do from the Gateway website (I had obtained LONG ago).If you google"audiopci 64v"you'' find some WDM drivers that MAY also work. Note that the Mixer/MIDI "should" still work with it. Basically, I'm saying it's worth a shot to get WDM drivers installed instead (better) and should be that bad to "unstall" and reload. -SIDE NOTE- Don't bother right now. Have been looking and none look "quite right". Stick with what you have (VXD as opposed to WDM). At least it's working. Ennyhoo, THAT is what you REALLY have.edit - some info (Wiki) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensoniq_AudioPCIedit2 - AHA!Here's the one from Gateway that I have (instructions and how-to get) -http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/Shared/7502533exein.shtmlNoteworthy - IF the one you used allowed for a "Joystick" in the Devices, then BEFORE using it, take note the the INF file inside the Extracted Package has a set of "Only For Retail" that is used to install it (like the one you have) and must be uncommented (all lines that are obviously Instructions and NOT real Comments). The lines have a semi-colon and you have to move the cursor in front if that line a press "DEL" to remove the semi-colon, then save it before actually running the Install. Same package, just newer files/versions. (Yours is Win95, this one is Win95/Win98).HTH Edited June 30, 2013 by submix8c
ruthan Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 On 6/29/2013 at 3:25 PM, MrMateczko said: Try these drivers (I hope they are not the same you've tried before): These are made specifically for ES1370, and are used by QEMU for Windows 98 emulation, so they should work. http://www.sendspace.com/file/z18nth EDIT: Is this your card?: http://images.bidorbuy.co.za/user_images/523/269523_110801133949_IMG_8787.jpg Do you still have these somewhere?
pangoomis Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 I don't...has it really been over 6 years :O I think I got them from DriverGuide, try looking here: https://members.driverguide.com/driver_search.php?q=es1370 DriverGuide is no longer a crap website anymore, they removed the forced download of their crapware downloader, it's all direct links now, yay!
jaclaz Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 On 6/29/2013 at 3:25 PM, MrMateczko said: These are made specifically for ES1370, and are used by QEMU for Windows 98 emulation, so they should work. Maybe they were these; https://qemu-devel.nongnu.narkive.com/2tj5RqNp/es1370-problems-with-win98se https://web.archive.org/web/20060222083500/http://franklinschools.nls.k12.la.us/download/drivers/audiopci.zip jaclaz
ruthan Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 Thanks both im trying to get it working with todays Qemu. At least with other driver with i found on internet, im getting some for me unknow error, in device manager or direct BSoD. Ensoniq AudioPCI The AudioPCI interrupt has been routed incorrectly by the system. Sound inactive. Use Autotmatic settings in the device manager. I tried some random IRQ changes no luck. Default is if im not wrong 3. Qemu has not classic bios, im really unsure if there is any way to manipulate with IRQs. I will test it without AutoPatcher changes.. but in theory there should be something in conflict from there. BTW is someone some good clean pack of just official Win98 updates?
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