Do you know what is the price of Atola Imager and deepspar?

[CrazyDoctor]

Hi All,

I sent few mails to the companies which sell those products:

Deepspar and Atola Imager.

None of them get back to me.

Are they snobs or something?

Or do they bankrupt?

I can't understand whay they are never answer to none of mails, asking to buy their products.

[Kelsenellenelvian]

Atola Imager + DiskSense Gigabit Ethernet unit

Base price (promotion) $1890.00

Software updates during first year after purchase $0.00

Software updates for 1 year $499.00

Software updates for 2 years (prepayment) $899.00

Software updates for 3 years (prepayment) $1199.00

Upgrade from Atola Imager to Atola Insight (promotion) $7100.00

Is your google broken???

I found that on the second google link...

Deskpar is 3300 USD

[CrazyDoctor]

Thanks for the informative and usefull answer!

What are the differences between Atola Imager and Atola Insight?

Why is the 5000$ difference?

By the way, what product is better:

Deepspar or Atola?

Many Thanks!

Edited June 7, 2010 by CrazyDoctor

[Kelsenellenelvian]

Honeslty?

I have NO clue.

That stuff is WAYYYYYY out of my price range. All I could give you was links I find on google.

[CrazyDoctor]

Are those updates can be achieve on the internet?

I mean if I would buy Atola Imager, I would like to save the money about the software updates, so I want to know if those updates can be achieve on the internet?

Many Thanks!

[Kelsenellenelvian]

Are you asking if the updates can be found and downloaded from other sources?

Probably BUT that would be illegal, wouldn't it?

[VideoRipper]

No offence CrazyDoctor (I already told you earlier I do like you), but isn't it a bit weird you're

looking for specialist's tools/solutions all the time with a very hefty pricetag, without even

being able to understand (let alone resolve) very sophisticated technical problems?

Apart from that, you're expressing that you're considering to pay $2000 for a device (you don't

even know to operate), but not for the updates

These tools aren't magic "Just plug a defective device in, press a button and everything will

get repaired"-devices, but (as the name suggests): "Tools"... they *can* help you in solving

a certain problem (after first having diagnosed the cause of that problem).

Just like, for instance, a screwdriver or a wrench: in the hands of a n00b they're useless.

Most of the time, things can be perfectly repaired/resolved using very simple and cheap solutions.

The only difference between a "Real"/"Official"- and a "Poor man's"-solution is that it will take

a little more effort using the cheap option (though you will learn a lot from it).

See the Seagate 7200.11 topics for a real-life example.

You can, for instance, buy a MPLab PIC-programmer for $900, but a "Poor man's" one will only set

you back less than $9 and a couple of hours of carefully re-checking everything before flashing.

Only when you're ready to start up your own "Harddrive-repair" bussiness (after having fiddled and

experimented for a long time), it's worth to buy specific specialists tools.

There's no sense in buying a "Belzer/Gedore" (a well known European manufacturer of quality tools)

screwdriver or wrench when your only intention is to use it to repair your bike once; just get

a "Kinzo" instead...

Greetz,

Peter.

[puntoMX]

Only when you're ready to start up your own "Harddrive-repair" bussiness (after having fiddled and

experimented for a long time), it's worth to buy specific specialists tools.

There's no sense in buying a "Belzer/Gedore" (a well known European manufacturer of quality tools)

screwdriver or wrench when your only intention is to use it to repair your bike once; just get

a "Kinzo" instead...

That's the deal, CrazyDoctor IS having a repair business and he likes to learn how to run that, I thought you knew (What CSI are you? ).

Seems like you know some mechanics yourself as not much people actually know Gedore, I have tools from them and they last for ever.

[jaclaz]

Seems like you know some mechanics yourself as not much people actually know Gedore, I have tools from them and they last for ever.

In your hands or in that of a mechanic that uses them everyday?

In my experience among the German tools manufacturer HAZET is also a very good brand. I would say "better" than Gedore, but "high" level tools are all at "high level", I will cite Beta and Pastorino among the Italian ones.

jaclaz

Edited June 7, 2010 by jaclaz

[puntoMX]

In your hands or in that of a mechanic that uses them everyday?

I'm not using them so much lately as before, but do you really think I'm working on computers only? Some tools from them I have for 20 years.

[VideoRipper]

do you really think I'm working on computers only?

Didn't I see you replacing that CPU the other day... using a spanner?

[puntoMX]

Quick and dirty; it snapped right off!

[CoffeeFiend]

No offence CrazyDoctor (I already told you earlier I do like you), but isn't it a bit weird you're looking for specialist's tools/solutions all the time with a very hefty pricetag, without even

being able to understand (let alone resolve) very sophisticated technical problems?

That. Such tools aren't magic, and won't do the job for you, nor are a substitute for knowledge.

Just like, for instance, a screwdriver or a wrench: in the hands of a n00b they're useless.

Nah. I have seen n00bs stab themselves with screwdrivers before, and a wrench in their hands quickly becomes a replacement for a hammer

You can, for instance, buy a MPLab PIC-programmer for $900, but a "Poor man's" one will only set you back less than $9 and a couple of hours of carefully re-checking everything before flashing

Somewhat of a poor example IMO. That's hardly the entry level programmer, and you're getting a LOT more than the DIY job (it doesn't even compare), like the USB connection (*and* RS 232), being able to program chips without a computer off of the SD slots with the built-in LCD, the availability of different ZIF sockets, it can be updated, it comes with fairly decent software (that's also familiar), it's well supported by the manufacturer, it's a fairly rugged machine that will last for years of in a production environment without extreme care, etc. But yeah, there's often ways to make-do without the really nice (and often really expensive) tools.

Tools-wise all these companies aren't exactly popular in North America. Here you'd be talking about Snap-on instead.

[jaclaz]

Kids today.

When I have to remove a CPU I just shout at it really hard and hop it jumps out of the socket and into my hand....

(I usually have a large sledgehammer in my other hand to give more weight to my words )

jaclaz