Voss Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 Hi everybody, this is my first time in this forum. I hope you can help me now and I hope I can help you too. Well this is the issue: I'm fixing a computer, the problem is when i log in with any account it stucks immediatly after this action. I can only see the wallpaper and nothing else, I can't see any icon, neither the start button.I think is a virus, but I haven't figured a way of scan the computer. The same ocurrs if I boot the machine in safe mode. Using BART ( Bootable antivirus and recovery tool ) cd I could copy the important information into another computer using the network. So I can format the computer and everyone is going to be happy, but I really wanted to know what's going on before performing this.Any ideas or help is all welcome.Thanks a lot!
strel Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 (edited) You think it is a virus, use an antivirus scanner from a bootable media to scan the HD for the virus, if you find it try to clean it. And be careful because the virus could be in the data backup you saved. I'd wait to use this data until I'd be able to clean any virus contained. Edited September 20, 2009 by strel
Geej Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 Hi everybody, this is my first time in this forum. I hope you can help me now and I hope I can help you too. Well this is the issue: I'm fixing a computer, the problem is when i log in with any account it stucks immediatly after this action. I can only see the wallpaper and nothing else, I can't see any icon, neither the start button.Any ideas or help is all welcome.Thanks a lot!Try Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager. Type Explorer.exe from Files-> New Task (Run...). It might restart Explorer and get to desktop.
Voss Posted September 24, 2009 Author Posted September 24, 2009 Hi everyone, thanks for your answers. About to use an antivirus I already tried with the same disk I used for backup the data, certainly the data i backed up was already scanned and no virus was found, the bad news is that the bootable antivirus the disk has was useless, it stucks in the middle of the scan.About use ctrl + alt + del I already tried that too, I did the explorer procedure you described but nothing happened.Can you recommend me another booteable antivirus please????
*Daniel Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 Some of the ones I use include Kaspersky, Bitdefender, Norton MAY have one but I'm not sure
Ponch Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 About use ctrl + alt + del I already tried that too, I did the explorer procedure you described but nothing happened.Maybe you can try typing CMD instead of Explorer then at the command line type "chkdsk c: /f" and see if anything gets fixed.
Voss Posted September 27, 2009 Author Posted September 27, 2009 Thanks, let me try those antivirus and the cmd option and I'll let you know about the results.
JRosenfeld Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 (edited) It could be due to a conflict between two items set to load at startup.try going into safe mode and use msconfig to disable all startup items. If that solves the problem, renable one or two and test, etc. Edited September 28, 2009 by JRosenfeld
macgyvr Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Hi everyone, thanks for your answers. About to use an antivirus I already tried with the same disk I used for backup the data, certainly the data i backed up was already scanned and no virus was found, the bad news is that the bootable antivirus the disk has was useless, it stucks in the middle of the scan.About use ctrl + alt + del I already tried that too, I did the explorer procedure you described but nothing happened.Can you recommend me another booteable antivirus please????If Windows is hanging AND the antivirus software is hanging, even from a bootable disk, you've got a hardware problem. Most likely faulty RAM.
Maxfutur Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 (edited) Maybe there is a virus, maybe not anymore.I have seen same problem once about 8 monts ago.What it does?Move, Delete or Rename explorer.exeHow you can fix this?Open task managerOpen CMDCopy from somewhere else the same or closest explorer.exe versión to C:\windows or where %WINDIR%\ is.Works for me, then update outdated kaspersky virus database (didn't reboot), run the scanner, 1 virus found and killed. Edited September 28, 2009 by Maxfutur
Tripredacus Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 There is also the dreaded "Antivirus 2009" clones which do this AND disable Task Manager. The OP didn't mention whether or not Task Manager opened or not, only that it was tried.
chilifrei64 Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 When you said you were "Fixing your computer", what were you fixing it from.I had a similar problem when fixing my brothers computer. I replaced his failed hard drive, imaged it and copied it over to his new hard drive. I spent hours doing boot logging and reading logs and everything and nothing came out of it.. a quick repair installation took care of it though.. So yeah.. might be a hard drive issue???What happened since the last time it worked and now?
Maxfutur Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 There is also the dreaded "Antivirus 2009" clones which do this AND disable Task Manager. The OP didn't mention whether or not Task Manager opened or not, only that it was tried.He wasnt clear but he did, see "i did the explorer procedure..." and the post before.What he didnt say is "i saw only one explorer" or "i tried 2 files called explorer".Hi everyone, thanks for your answers. About to use an antivirus I already tried with the same disk I used for backup the data, certainly the data i backed up was already scanned and no virus was found, the bad news is that the bootable antivirus the disk has was useless, it stucks in the middle of the scan.About use ctrl + alt + del I already tried that too, I did the explorer procedure you described but nothing happened.Can you recommend me another booteable antivirus please????It can be very possible that there is not explorer.exe, only explorer.scf wich does nothing if there is not explorer.exe.
gerson2k Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 This problem is due to a virus.What you need to do is delete the explorer key in the registry.CTRL + ALT + DEL and bring up task manager, file>new task (run) and regedit -HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options\Explorer.exeWhen you try to delete this it will throw up an error telling you you don't have permissions. Drill into the properties and take ownership (assuming you're an local admin), then reapply permissions by inheritance. You should now be in a position to delete this key. Log off and it should now log in fine.
Voss Posted October 27, 2009 Author Posted October 27, 2009 Thanks everybody, sorry about the delay in my answers, I still have the computer fortrying all the recommendations you told me.Well, reading the posts, I'm gonna try the following and I'll let you know what solve the issue.1-Maybe you can try typing CMD instead of Explorer then at the command line type "chkdsk c: /f" and see if anything gets fixed.2-Open task managerOpen CMDCopy from somewhere else the same or closest explorer.exe versión to C:\windows or where %WINDIR%\ is.3-CTRL + ALT + DEL and bring up task manager, file>new task (run) and regedit -HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options\Explorer.exe
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