momo2011 Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Thanks afrin, i'll check the cables,the HD runs but no answer at all with hyper terminalThe way he crashed is the same as the BSY problemes described over the internet, Oh my god 500 Go of data (films, music, softwares ...) lost, and another HD of 500 Go too died by my hand when i made a mistake when plugin the power, I'm feel back to Neolithics, I have nothing, i lost at all 1 To, regain it will cost me years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afrin Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Keep trying, worst case you will fry the PCB I use a China clone CA-42 ( Prolific ) and i guess the length and the "design" of the connectors are giving problems, i made the cable shorter and now i can pass the spin down, so try that as well. But mine is looking like bad heads / weak motor or something like that... It won't spin-up ( have not tried on XP yet ).Question : Could it be that the motor connector is not making a good enough contact after removing the paper ?Can someone that had similar problem / experience be of some assistance ?In the clone CA-42 ( GT50727 ) there are 5 wires but only 3 are attached to the PCB, does anyone has a schematic where the other two must be soldered or some detailed schem. of the PCB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Question : Could it be that the motor connector is not making a good enough contact after removing the paper ?Can someone that had similar problem / experience be of some assistance ?Yes, it happened before, expecially if the paper slip is thick and or screws were tightened too much, see here:In the clone CA-42 ( GT50727 ) there are 5 wires but only 3 are attached to the PCB, does anyone has a schematic where the other two must be soldered or some detailed schem. of the PCB.Read ATTENTIVELY point #10 of the read--me-first:Guess WHY it was written that way? In a nutshell it says:You'd better NOT use a Nokia cable (unless you know where your towel is ) as it is likely you will have problems in finding a working adapter AND/OR the right connections for itSee if anything here helps:http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/Use_a_Nokia_Serial_Cable_on_an_ARM9_Linkstation@rmgSee this report:jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo2011 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Finally i found the problem, a resistor in Tx of my converter, i remove it and the PCB finally answer my commands,But i have This: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2ofun Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 What converter, and why a problem? So far two converters, zero talking to the PCB. (Finally i found the problem, a resistor in Tx of my converter, i remove it and the PCB finally answer my commands,But i have This: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 What converter, and why a problem? So far two converters, zero talking to the PCB. (@h2ofunPlease READ before posting.momo2011 posted in this same page he self-built his converter.@momo2011You got WHAT? jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo2011 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) Sorry, i was trying to upload the images but its not authorized:I got this:F3 T>m0,2,2,,,,,22Max Wr Retries = 00, Max Rd Retries = 00, Max ECC T-Level = 16, Max Certify Rewrite Retries = not supported DiagError 0000500DUser Partition Format Failed - Elapsed Time 0 mins 00 secsR/W Sense 00000002, R/W Error 843200A6, File Error 00000000Blk Addr 000000130001, Blk Addr Type D0, Cyl 00000000, Hd 01With the F712 command i get:F3 T>F712Byte:05C1: Expansions = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ''Please can someone resole this mistery Edited November 7, 2010 by momo2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo2011 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) Can i put the PCB on my other HD, its the same model but he was victms of poweroverload, the pcb is out of service but the motor and the head seems to be Ok.I've try it before, the motor start, the head sound goog but nothing in the bios, seven seems recognise something but cannot acces it, some softwares too cannot do anything, Edited November 7, 2010 by momo2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo2011 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) In fact the most worriest message is the:Byte:05C1: Expansions =00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0000 00 00 00 00 00 00''What does it means? Edited November 7, 2010 by momo2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo2011 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) Sorry another questionCan i fix the pcb 2, i mean which part are probably burned and how to rocognise them (in my PCB there is no visible failure), can i use a common Electronic checker to test the parts?Is there other commands not listed in the tutorial? Edited November 7, 2010 by momo2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) Please can someone resole this misteryIt must be tough living with a broken google , see if you can find something yourself:http://tinyurl.com/23sa46wBut, no , I don't think we have a "solution" or a "definite" one for it. You may try to use google translate on these:http://people.overclockers.ru/showman/record1http://forums.overclockers.ru/viewtopic.php?t=295009there may be something of relevance.Please, STOP multiposting, this thread is ALREADY filled with an excessive number of postings and NO you cannot SWAP a PCB, and NO you can NOT normally "fix" a PCB (exception made perhaps for a shot TVS diode).This is not "question time", MOST of your questions have ALREADY been asked and replied to, please TAKE YOUR TIME READing what has ALREADY been posted.IF your post is last one in a thread, ALWAYS edit it adding to it new text and NEVER make ANOTHER post just below your preceding one. jaclaz Edited November 7, 2010 by jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo2011 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) Ok, received 5/5.Sorry and thanks for the links Edited November 7, 2010 by momo2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afrin Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 @jaclaz - Just wanted to say thanks for all that you do and that there are people that appreciate your help and all that this forum and it staff do. From now on i will be a regular here and try to help as much as i can.About my drive not spining up - It's a referb - ( Certified Rapaired ) drive, so i guess it may have a problem with weak heads or something like it.----------------------------------------------------------------------------For people with ST******NS drives that get LED: 000000CC - there is a way by shortening "read channel" ( read about it in another forum, so search for it, there is a picture )----------------------------------------------------------------------------CA-42 cables from FocalPrice ( GT50727 ) :Blue cable with 5 wires, 3 wires soldered to PCB, cables are ( usually ) :Blue : RX ( connect TX to drive )White : TX ( connect RX to drive )Black : GNDFew things that i've found out for better results :Try making your cable shorter, Do not use hubs/extenders, Use the USB ports on the back of your case, Recheck and solder your connectors.Stop buying any s***gate product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlouBul Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 I got this:F3 T>mo,2,2,,,,,22Did you type F3 T>mo,2,2,,,,,22 or F3 T>m0,2,2,,,,,22There should be a 0(zero) after the m and not an o and NO you cannot SWAP a PCB, Maybe you should put that also in the READ-ME-FIRST (although that is normally read last). That is normally asked time and again. Maybe also the buffalo-wiki link for the people who don't listen to warnings (or live in the middle of nowhere and cannot get another converter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo2011 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) I've put m0,2,2,,,,,22The adapters i've made is Around MAX232 (from the datasheet) and seems to work fineMay be the problem was more deeper affecting not only the Firmware, but the Heads or the Disk itselfI continu to search and tryWhat is the requirement to swap PCBs?Thanks Edited November 7, 2010 by momo2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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