Gantlett Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) HelloFirst of all, a big thank you for Nuhi for all his great efforts.But, unfortunately I have a problem.I used nLite v1.4.1 on an English WinXP Pro SP1 Volume License CD to do the following:1. Slipstream SP22. Integrate IE73. Components Removed: MSN Explorer, Windows Messenger, Windows Tour, Search Assistant and Desktop Cleanup Wizard4. Unattended Settings (serial number, language selection etc. Nothing removed and no tweaks or hacks selected)5. Options: Everything set to default.6. Tweaks: Various settings.7. Disabled Services: Telnet, Remote Registry and MessengerThis is the ini file I used to create this CD:[Main]Env = 1.4.1 - 2.0.50727.1433.Microsoft Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2Target = Windows XP Professional SP2 - 5.1.2600.2180 - English (United States)[Tasks]Service Pack IntegrationRemove ComponentsUnattended SetupIntegrate DriversHotfixes and Update PacksTweaksCreate a Bootable ISOOptions[Components];# Network #MSN ExplorerWindows Messenger;# Operating System Options #Desktop Cleanup WizardSearch AssistantTour;# Compatibility #[KeepFiles]msconfig.exe[RemoveFiles]clock.aviyahoo.bmpswtchbrd.bmp[Options]ProfilesDir = "%SystemDrive%\Documents and Settings"TargetPath = "WINDOWS"temp_dir = %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\TempAdvTweaks[Patches][Services2]TlntSvr,4RemoteRegistry,4Messenger,4[Tweaks]Boot and Shutdown-Logon Page-ClassicDesktop-Internet Explorer icon-ShowDesktop-My Computer icon-ShowDesktop-My Documents icon-ShowDesktop-My Network Places icon-ShowDesktop-Recycle Bin icon-ShowExplorer-Advanced Search: preconfigure optionsExplorer-Change Windows Explorer folder view-ListExplorer-Classic Control PanelExplorer-Disable Prefix: Shortcut toExplorer-Display the contents of system foldersExplorer-Show the full path in the Address BarInternet Explorer-Disable Market Place bookmarkInternet Explorer-Disable Media Player 6.4 created bookmarksInternet Explorer-Set Homepage-www.google.comInternet Explorer-Set IE-Cache limit to-200 MBNetwork-Disable Simple File SharingStart Menu-Control Panel-Display as a menuStart Menu-Disable and remove Documents list from the Start MenuStart Menu-Do not use Personalized MenusStart Menu-My Computer-Display as a linkStart Menu-My Documents-Display as a linkStart Menu-My Music-Don't display this itemStart Menu-My Network Places-Display as a linkStart Menu-My Pictures-Don't display this itemStart Menu-Network Connections-Don't display this itemStart Menu-Remove Search For People from SearchStart Menu-Remove Search the Internet from SearchStart Menu-Remove Set Program Access and DefaultsStart Menu-Remove Windows Catalog shortcutTaskbar-Disable Group similar Taskbar buttonsTaskbar-Disable Hide inactive iconsTaskbar-Lock the Taskbar-YesWindows Media Player-Disable automatic codec downloadWindows Media Player-Disable silent acqusitionWindows Media Player-Disable starting with Media Guide[Unattended]ComputerType = DefaultCustomLocalesMaximumDataStorePercentOfDisk = 12RestorePointLife = 30DefaultThemesOffDefaultStartPanelOffDesktopTheme = Windows Classic|Windows Classic style|NormalAutoUDay = 5AutoUHour = 15ProgFilesPath = "\Program Files"[NetAdapter1]connname = ""macaddress = ""ipaddress = "192.168.0.1"subnetmask = "255.255.255.0"defaultgateway = ""dnsserver1 = ""dnsserver2 = ""winsserver = ""netbiossetting = "0"ipxnetworknumber = "00000000"ipxnetworkframetype = "0xFF"[NetAdapter2]connname = ""macaddress = ""ipaddress = "192.168.0.2"subnetmask = "255.255.255.0"defaultgateway = ""dnsserver1 = ""dnsserver2 = ""winsserver = ""netbiossetting = "0"ipxnetworknumber = "00000000"ipxnetworkframetype = "0xFF"[NetAdapter3]connname = ""macaddress = ""ipaddress = "192.168.0.3"subnetmask = "255.255.255.0"defaultgateway = ""dnsserver1 = ""dnsserver2 = ""winsserver = ""netbiossetting = "0"ipxnetworknumber = "00000000"ipxnetworkframetype = "0xFF"[NetAdapter4]connname = ""macaddress = ""ipaddress = "192.168.0.4"subnetmask = "255.255.255.0"defaultgateway = ""dnsserver1 = ""dnsserver2 = ""winsserver = ""netbiossetting = "0"ipxnetworknumber = "00000000"ipxnetworkframetype = "0xFF"[NetAdapter5]connname = ""macaddress = ""ipaddress = "192.168.0.5"subnetmask = "255.255.255.0"defaultgateway = ""dnsserver1 = ""dnsserver2 = ""winsserver = ""netbiossetting = "0"ipxnetworknumber = "00000000"ipxnetworkframetype = "0xFF"[GuiRunOnce][Drivers][Hotfixes]C:\Local Work\WinXP\IE7-WindowsXP-x86-enu.exeI used this CD on several different machines. The strange thing is that on some machines Windows asks for the installation CD every time a device driver is installed, and on some it doesn't.I am working in a production environment and I need to provide answers to my superiors. They, and I too, are worried that other components and other critical or non-critical parts of Windows might be changed or even missing.Why is there a prompt to insert a Windows CD every time a driver is installed and why does it happen on some of the machines installed with this CD and not all?How can I be sure that these machines are running a version of Windows without (other) changes I do not know about?I understand that this program is provided for free and with no warranty, but I have to know what else may be changed or missing. I put my trust and my word on nLite and brought it to a production environment which my job depends on. I need to be able to tell my superiors that nothing else is changed or missing and that the workstations running this version of Windows (the one from this CD) are perfectly safe from defects and other "surprises" (i.e. changes I did not make).Thank you very much in advance! Edited March 24, 2008 by Gantlett
Kelsenellenelvian Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) I am working in a production environment and I need to provide answers to my superiors. They, and I too, are worried that other components and other critical or non-critical parts of Windows might be changed or even missing.nLite IS NOT FOR CORPORATE USE!!! Read the EULA!You agreed to the fact that nLite is not for corporate use when you installed it.Plus before you ask it is BECAUSE of reasons like this nLite will not be for corporate use!I put my trust and my word on nLite and brought it to a production environment which my job depends on. I need to be able to tell my superiors that nothing else is changed or missing and that the workstations running this version of Windows (the one from this CD) are perfectly safe from defects and other "surprises" (i.e. changes I did not make).OMG you actually decided to let your job DEPEND on nLite? You are in an IT field and you cheated pure and simple... An app like nLite should not be used in a "production" enviroment because you cannot support it. You are WAY above your head here sir. Everything you used Nlite to do CAN be done by yourself and then you can support it and actually know what you are doing.People like you are just going to get nLite shut down. Edited March 24, 2008 by Kelsenellenelvian
Gantlett Posted March 24, 2008 Author Posted March 24, 2008 People like you are just going to get nLite shut down. Let's just CALM DOWN here.I admitted making a mistake alright? And if it wasn't clear, you can quote me: I KNOW I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS, but after years of using nLite with good results I did not think I could encounter a problem or something unexpected like this.My question was however how can I amend this and are there any more changes made to the system which I am not aware of.Thank you very much again!
Kelsenellenelvian Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 I repeat:nLite IS NOT FOR CORPORATE USE!!! Read the EULA!You don't get it m8 you have to stop using it at work.#1 nLite did not do anything hidden.#2 SFC is always going to come up after removals have been done unless you disable it.How can I be sure that these machines are running a version of Windows without (other) changes I do not know about?By doing it yourself. Pure plain and simple.
Gantlett Posted March 24, 2008 Author Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) I DO get it. And you can stop being so defensive (or offensive to be exact). I AM NOT BLAMING ANYONE, I AM MERELY LOOKING FOR HELP. "#2 SFC is always going to come up after removals have been done unless you disable it."Thank you. That's helpful. But I removed applications, not device drivers. So why does this happen at all? Furthermore, why does this happen only on some machines and not all?As far as you or anyone else here know - are there any other issues I might be facing in the future with these machines?Thanks again. Edited March 24, 2008 by Gantlett
engjcowi Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) Im still suprised you can still even ask for help considering you already broke the EULA agreement. Futhermore if you did some research on the components you wish to remove (its not that hard) then you could remove them yourself and fulyl understand what is happening without the need for another program, thus you would look even better in the eyes of your superiors. Edited March 24, 2008 by engjcowi
Kelsenellenelvian Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) (or offensive to be exact).You are the one here looking for help with the multiple illegal installations you did while pretending to be an IT guy and I'm being offensive?What you have done is highly illegal and hazardous therefore you should be, at the very least fired. If not brought up on charges. Edited March 24, 2008 by Kelsenellenelvian
Gantlett Posted March 24, 2008 Author Posted March 24, 2008 (or offensive to be exact).You are the one here looking for help with the multiple illegal installations you did while pretending to be an IT guy and I'm being offensive?What you have done is highly illegal and hazardous therefore you should be, at the very least fired. If not brought up on charges.You are WAY out of line here, you who calls himself "kelsenellenelvian".1. Any Windows XP copy I use is PERFECTLY legal - accusing me of illegal acts without any grounds to your claims is not something you can do just like that! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ???2. If anyone is pretending something here, it's you. Sitting behind your little keyboard and flimsy laptop saying things to (non) virtual people when in reality (yes. there's such a thing) you wouldn't have the guts to say FACE to FACE.Or are you going to "edit" my post like a little baby because you are a "mod" (I'm trembling here, seriously)?3. If anyone is going to be prosecuted here it is probably going to be YOU TOO. What you said there is LIBEL, and that's AGAINST THE LAW. OK Bub?SO BRING IT ON BABY! I'M WAITING! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------For the record, I have the utmost respect for everyone here. I'm sorry mr. "kelsenellenelvian" had to ruin this thread by introducing aggression and impolite and disrespectful behavior.Any help from other members will be greatly appreciated.Thanks again!
jaclaz Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Gantlett,take a deep breath.Noone is accusing you of using illegally XP.Everyone is accusing you to use nlite illegally.The license of nlite seems clear enough to me:http://www.msfn.org/board/usb-drivers-prob...te-t112812.htmlWhich is the part that you do not understand?:5. nLite is free for personal use only, you cannot use it for any company or business purposes at this time.Are you using nlite in any company or business purpose?If yes, you are using it illegally.Although I don't think that you will be prosecuted or sued for this, this is non-ethical, unfair and overall against netiquette and the scope of this board.Besides, you are clearly breaking rules of the board, by needlessly attacking another member :7.b This community is built upon mutual respect. You are not allowed to flame other members. People who do not respect personal opinions and/or personal work will be warned in first instance. If you ignore the warning and keep on flaming, you will be banned without notice.jaclaz
Kelsenellenelvian Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) Have you read the MS EULA??Any modification of windows files violates the EULA! Plus you violated nLites EULA the second you used it in a corp enviroment. Then you pretend to be an IT guy by using apps to do what you, by all rights should be able to do yourself. Windows is not a program you or your company actually OWNS it is more of a program you have rented the rights too.If I was in the same room as you I could and would says this to your face. Do you want to trade addresses? Maybe even let me know the name of the company you work for?Yes, I do know what libel means and so what I have said nothing in this thread that is illegal or cannot be proven by the simple fact of reading your own posts.I have no mod power I am a software developer here. I cannot nor would I edit your posts as they alone prove my point. P.S. My name and address are VERY easy to find. Edited March 24, 2008 by Kelsenellenelvian
Gantlett Posted March 24, 2008 Author Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) jaclazIn that case - I apologize from the bottom of my heart.I did not mean to do anything unethical or unfair and I certainly did not read the nLite EULA lately.In light of this I will cease any use of nLite at work right from this minute.As for the above mentioned user (which should be BANNED from this forum for libel) - that is not accurate. It accused me of other things and very much deserves my wrath for being a cheeky little puppy.Attacking him is anything but needles, it is a must, as he was falsely and maliciously accusing me of illegal activities which I have no part of. Edited March 24, 2008 by Gantlett
Kelsenellenelvian Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) You broke the EULA of nLite on by your own admition on MULTIPLE occasions and PCs these are fully illegal actions. Multiple times in your posts you refer to doing this I accussed you of nothing that you did not admit to (except for pretending to be an IT guy, a properly educated IT guy would NEVER have done this and would know the EULA of Windows. Plus they would never "put my trust and my word on nLite and brought it to a production environment which my job depends on." without EXTREME research on the fore said program and reading the EULA of mentioned program.You see I have alot of experience and education on such matters and have falsely accused you of nothing. Edited March 24, 2008 by Kelsenellenelvian
Kelsenellenelvian Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Sorry for the double post but before I goto bed I must point this last fact out:Clearly stated in the MSFN rules :1. This is not a warez site! Links/Requests to warez and/or illegal material (porn, cracks, serials, etc..) will not be tolerated. Discussion of circumventing WGA/activation/timebombs/keygens or any other illegal activity will also not be tolerated. You will be banned without notice. Last warning. We will not tolerate any, i mean any illegal activity. We are very close to lock this forum. Think about it when you post your questions or requests. <-- This part is regarding the nLite section of this site.
Ikari Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Geez, the nerve of some people... why do you put up with this?In other forums, he would've long been banned already.
Kelsenellenelvian Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Simply because all of the upper staff are asleep at the moment.
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