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yeha, good one ;-) maxthon needs IE core ... so there will be no support I guess ...

rechecked that program seems that filezilla only needs: riched20.dll maybe it needs additional registry entries (I tested some registry stuff in advance, anyway if they are needed, I've got them) maybe I can recheck that on the weekend ... because this week I dont have that much time

bloat? nope ... openoffice just needs some extra dll's and thats all ... and in comparison to ms office we dont even need to talk about ... this list is cleaned up ... some prefer it especially in their office, but for home use ... never ... openoffice rulez! true but it should not be our aim to satisfy most people (that is what microsoft does), we should try to reach our goal --> small, simple, secure microwindows with basic support for _most_ needed applications due to the many restrictions of this windows (e.g. no user management, no software installation after modification etc etc etc) we will never be able to satisfy all ...

before we add support for a bunch of useless emulators we should better provide support for more mainstream software ... support for .net ? hard to realize and there are alternative runtimes for nlite available ... support for steam? I didn't test it on microwinx but if you use steam on a windows without IE, you will have to add 127.0.0.1 steampowered.com to your host file to get rid of the annoying popups because of the embedded html-sites in steam @qdogg how do you make the reg patches, with regmon and then manually by hand? if you can make 1 package out of your patches I could upload that file ... btw: gimp support would be cool!

I guess it is more important to improve the modification process (improving batchfiles, or script those things in a more modular manner (e.g. perl, ruby, python ...)) program suppport is important, but most programs work with additional dlls (everyone is able to copy them, we dont need extra batchfiles for that) it is more important to provide support for those programs which need additional registry entries or additional system components (e.g. dhcp) working driver or fonts cleanup is not that much important (because it is more important to me that this windows works, instead of saving 0,x megabytes ...)

devcpp: shfolder.dll works ruby: opengl32.dll, glu32.dll, dciman32.dll works izarc: hhctrl.ocx, urlmon.dll daemon-tools: msi.dll PROBLEM: "no language support detected" Lotus 5.08: just works total commander: winspool.drv, comdlg32.dll mysql-front: even doesnt work before step 4 ultra-edit: oledlg.dll, winspool.drv, comctl32.dll, olepro32.dll, wsock32.dll, comdlg32.dll, imm32.dll works

I can wait for beta 3, np

Homesite: comctl32.dll, imm32.dll, winspool.drv, comdlg32.dll, msvfw32.dll, avifil32.dll PROBLEM: starting program and nothing happens DVD-Fab Platinum: comctl32.dll PROBLEM: starting program and nothing happens

yes, the first one was without drivers but can you beat that one? (I'm honest, that one is not very realistic, shutdownprocess and screenshot taken at the very last possible moment *g*) what is more important to me: there seems to be a problem in general (double-click on exe, and nothing happens, but all required dll's are in the program folder) do you have any idea for that problem?

@synth <edited> this list contains a) often 3 different programs for the same task b) often programs where are better alternatives available (why use yim, aim, icq, irc etc when miranda is available ? ) c) software you run once and then never again (e.g. benchmarking tools to ensure that your oc'ed computer is rockstable, just install a normal windows, do that, and then start installing microwinx, or run these benchmarking tools in your second windows) d) software for just unnecessary tasks (you think xpantispy or wwdc are needed in THIS windows? lol!!!!) what you say: omg, you really think that azureus is the only bittorrent client for linux? just rethink of what we do here, we try to shrink windows to a size which is good for our needs, if we would use linux we wouldn't have to (and I'm not talking about redhat, ubuntu, or some other bloated distributions => www.linuxfromscratch.org !!) wpa2? vpn? I guess you never heard of that stuff ... those people who really need more power will buy better hardware, those who dont do audio/video production can wait 10 seconds longer in the overall process of recoding the video/music/whatever (most of that stuff depends on cpu-power anyway, so I dont believe that microwinx is able to provie 10seconds less recoding time ...) yea lol ... high performance servers out of your old hardware ... sounds like a dream, and yes, it is a dream!! .... .... .... (I'm so lazy ...) @shix & synth did you guys install microwinx? I guess not because both of you are just dreaming and blame qdogg for not wiping out more of that bloated stuff and tell him to use "what's running" omg ... just look at his work and you'll see there is not much more what to do ...

as I already said, I think another option is to use windows pe (or bart's pe) to run the neccessary steps, so you wont need a second windows installation

software tested so far (starting the program works, didnt test any function!!!): I guess some of them might need additional dlls when they start working/make use of some special tools (nero e.g.)... whatever here we go: Derive 5.02 (math program) comdlg32.dll, comctl32.dll, winspool.drv, oledlg.dll, olepro32.dll works Blackbox comctl32.dll, bbleanbar.dll (plugins\bbleanbar\bbleanbar.dll) works Firefox: comdlg32.dll, wsock32.dll, winspool.drv works 7zip: comdlg32.dll works WinSCP: wsock32.dll, winspool.drv, comdlg32.dll, imm32.dll works VLC: opengl32.dll, comdlg.dll works Filezilla: comctl32.dll, winspool.drv PROBLEM: starting program and nothing happens Winamp: comctl32.dll, comdlg32.dll, wsock32.dll, dciman32.dll works Skype: imm32.dll, comdlg32.dll, SHfolder.dll, oleacc.dll PROBLEM: The application failed to initialize properly (0x0000142). Click ok to terminate the application) Photoshop 7.0: comdlg32.dll, winspool.drv, imm32.dll, comctl32.dll works Miranda 4.0.1: wsock32.dll, comdlg32.dll, riched20.dll, riched32.dll works Nero 6.6.0.8 (burning rom/express): shfolder.dll, quartz.dll, comdlg32.dll, olethk32.dll, wsock32.dll, winspool.drv, olepro32.dll, oledlg.dll works Openoffice 1.1.5: wsock32.dll, winspool.drv, imm32.dll works IrfanView 3.97: winspool.drv, comdlg32.dll works utorrent: comdlg32.dll works Foxit: comdlg32.dll, comctl32.dll, winspool.drv, oledlg.dll, olepro32.dll works Ultraiso: comdlg32.dll, oledlg.dll works Homesite: comctl32.dll, imm32.dll, winspool.drv, comdlg32.dll, msvfw32.dll, avifil32.dll PROBLEM: starting program and nothing happens DVD-Fab Platinum: comctl32.dll PROBLEM: starting program and nothing happens

mapping network drives would be cool ... but hard to realize I think ...

what could also work, the steps which need the second windows (modify registry, delete system relevant dlls etc ...) could also be done from a windows PE ... so we don't need to make the extra partition *to be tested* edit: microwinx just rocks ;-)

@ synth I guess this windows is not intended to be a replacement for an all-in-one-working-windows-with-all-your-favourtie-programs it is just what it is: a small simple and secure windows providing all basics to 'survive' @gdogg I would not provide support all that bloated stuff like benchmarking software ... I was thinking of a small, low-power box for the kids, guests or something similiar (carpc, kioskpc) It should be possible to use a cf-card (or microdrive) + second hdd to setup that windows and then remove the second hdd ...

I've got access to a dedicated server (my bro's dedicated) ... I was not talking about my own pc lol some software I would like to run on this windows (some of them are already running): browsing&email = firefox and thunderbird (+sunbird ?) office = openoffice pdf = gsview + foxit + afpl postscript music = winamp (+ streamripper/stationripper?) movies = vlc (+klite codec package would be nice *g*) chat = miranda, skype (+teamspeak?) file transfer = filezilla, winscp (+putty?) filesharing = utorrent (or any non-bloated bittorrent client) burning = nero burning rom iso stuff = ultraiso, daemon-tools, dvd-fab platinum picture stuff = irfan view system monitoring = nmap, tools from sysinternals (filemon, tcpview etc) optional: coding stuff: homesite, devcpp, ruby, activeperl ... picture editing: photoshop ;-) to be continued ;-) today I'll be able to test some of that stuff

I guess I could host some of the files ... just let me know

okay, yesterday and today i testet microwinx ;-) (in vmware) works fine ;-) first I f***ed it up with cleaning up fonts and drivers ... *g* but now it works next stage will be to test several programs etc ... good work!

beta 2 is coming ... yeha ;-) as I told you in my pm (I also agreed to the rules) I'm very interested ... just tell us what to do ;-)

I know exactly what you mean but I don't have an exact answer ... maybe it has sth to do with the service "shell hardware detection" ...

we are waiting for your release i am especially intereseted in some dll's with reduced size (system32.dll e.g.)

there is one audio architecture: AC97, and another: Universal Audio Architecture (UAA) uaa seems to be important for HD-audio ... AC97 will not be supported in windows vista i dont know if this update gives us any improvements for windows xp, and i dont know if this update is necessary to watch hd-dvds or hd-audio stuff ... i just dont know ;-) i guess for now, it is not necessary

okay, nice work .... but ... 1. removing that much stuff is okay, but gaining 10 or 20 mb for such a high amount of work ... 2. a lot of stuff doesnt work after removing these files: EFS, administrative tools, dun, and so on ... i dont think it is worth to kick those dll's out and loose so much usability ... better waste 10 or 20 mb and have more windows on your pc lol

thx for this detailed info to fdv'files: yea, i also tried to nlite them, doenst work: [nlite scanning for i386 folder] 1. error: nettcpip.inf -> continues 2. error: netmscli.inf -> continues 3. error: sth about sfc.dll, stops responding tried to copy some other sfc.dll to the i386 folder in advance, and copy the fdv-sfc.dll back when nlite finished scanning, only tried to removed items which are not touched by fdv-files (like languages and other) but anyway, when processing the files, he also stops responding would be great if his fileset is compatible ... anyway i didnt manage to make his plain-fileset + hotfixes to work (without any mods!) win2k setup returns an error and quits ...

for me every link works quite fine (which browser do you use?) ... and if you downloaded the package i linked directly you would have seen that it is not card specific (or take the first link and scroll down untill you reach kb888111) upped the kb888111 for w2ksp4 (english): http://www.antischily.de/files/kb888111w2ksp4.exe the original package is about 50mb because it contains many languages and all versions for each os ... edit: another try: test this another i guess your browser has problems with the additional ... in the link (this board modifies the links so that they dont get to long ... it reduces the length and puts ... to show that it is a link which has been shortened, i guess your browser takes them as they stand here ... i use mozilla 1.7.11 and have no problems with that, just try the 2 links above, they should work)