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well I'm not sure why you are loading it from a flopy and I guess it should work I was just curious. As for unatended it should work just fine even with a flopy it whould be easier though to jsut put it on the cdrom. One less thing to fail.

try the way I have mentioned to do these things. I cant say for sure what you did but I have my setup working almost flawlessly and have been doing multpiple test setups a day for almost a month now. You know in all that testing that I have learned a few things. Mostly I learned the ways not to do things. ;SetupMgrTag [Data] AutoPartition = 0 MsDosInitiated ="0" UnattendedInstall = Yes LocalSourceOnCD = 1 what is the local source on cd for? also use the login method i mentioned and get rid of that admin password [GuiUnattended] AdminPassword =* EncryptedAdminPassword = No OEMSkipRegional = 1 OEMSkipWelcome = 1 TimeZone = 110 oh one more thing you have default themes turned off this may be why you cant get a dektop.jpg set also. I thought like you at first and started shutting all kinds of things turned off till i started getting issues. In the end I cut it out. this [GuiRunOnce] a:\script.bat should be this [GuiRunOnce] %systemdrive%\install\script.bat and also the same for you vbscript unless you are loading them from a floppy.

enable active desktop maybe. If you want to totaly hack up your registry then things will not work as you want for some things. Also remember that jpg's as a desktop will only work with active desktop enabled. Otherwise you will neeed to use bmp's. Also to note I have not tested this by turning off active desktop. I do this for setup's for customers also and for their systems you dont want to mess it up to bad or else you get service calls about why your systems are messed up. A custom theme is ok but you dont want to go turning everything off.

thanks but that is only if you are using a pass and also note that if you do that then you will need to add a pass to the reg file. Now one more thing it works like it is. Adding a pass is not mandatory.

nope his problem is that the reg file goes under $OEM$\$1\install The installer will not see it if you dont put it there. Not to mention that this would work just as well for setting up multpile accounts. You simply define your accounts in user.cmd like the first one is with the acception that you may not want them all to have admin rights. Then you will need some code to get the old style login like so. ;Disable Welcome Screen and uses Classic Logon [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon] "LogonType"=dword:00000000 now the final thing is that no matter what you have to login with at least one user to install your apps through guirunonce. So you will still want to use the login stuff I posted. Now you can always disable the autologin after the first boot in with another reg hack like so. ;This will allow you to autologin. ;Replace InsertName value with the Username you want to autologin with. ;Replace InsertPassword value with the password corresponding to the Username specified. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon] "DefaultUserName"="User" "DefaultPassword"="" "AutoAdminLogon"="0" I think that is it anyway it is untested by me. There you all go. Happy campers all.

to late in the process. The way I described loads the user settings much earler so that everything is setup correctly. guirunonce doesn't run till after the first login which will happen as admin and then the progies wont be installed as your user.

OK here is a better way to describe how to do it. http://board.MSFN.org/index.php?showtopic=8427 this is only for setting up your user though your apps are another story and you should look here for more info on how to do apps. http://board.MSFN.org/index.php?showtopic=7462

Ok for doing setting up users durring install you will need i386\winnt.sif $OEM$\cmdlines.txt $OEM$\user.cmd $OEM\$1\install\Reg_Root_Tweaks.reg for your winnt.sif you will need to make sure these sections look like this [GuiUnattended] AdminPassword=* EncryptedAdminPassword=no OEMSkipRegional=1 TimeZone="004" OemSkipWelcome=1 [UserData] ProductID=your product id here FullName="User" OrgName="My Home" ComputerName=Computer make sure to use whatever username you want to use. I use user. now cmdlines.txt ".\user.cmd" now user.cmd CLS @ECHO OFF ECHO Adding Default User... net user User /add net localgroup "administrators" User /add ECHO. ECHO Applying Root Registry Tweaks... REGEDIT /S %systemdrive%\install\Reg_Root_Tweaks.reg ECHO. EXIT again here make sure to use the user name you want. I use user. now for the reg_root_tweaks.reg Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 ;This will allow you to autologin. ;Replace InsertName value with the Username you want to autologin with. ;Replace InsertPassword value with the password corresponding to the Username specified. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon] "DefaultUserName"="User" "DefaultPassword"="" "AutoAdminLogon"="1" again make sure to use whatever user you want. I use user. now you will logon as user and everything will be installed as user.

well being me i prefer the inf way besides I have just about converting my whole install over to useing them. i have it al lowrking more or less now but I'm working out a few little things I still want to add. As for the installshield you will still need to use a batch for it and then have the registry call the batch. A tiny bit more work biut it looks better when it's done.

Ok i have found a way to bypass windows file protection and let you login using your default themes and msstyles like you want. I'm working out the bugs in it now but should have something to show within a few days.

thanks I actually pulled that part and I'm currently working on a way to pull out the cdrom sooner so that it will bypass windows file protection and let you use custom dll's and stuff without having to worry about it. That is actualy one of the best parts about this is that by removeing the first cd you can bypass windows file protection and therefor use your hacked uxtheme.dll and whatever files you find helpfull. The nice part about pulling it sooner is that it enables you to login the first time with your custom msstyles and themes working like they should..

yes I have even gone so far as to force mdac to extract into a specific directory and then run it form there but it does not as I would like. I think it has to do with the virtual file system used durring setup and so for some reason the commands are not passed correctly. You know that gives me an idea. I have been using inf files to spruce up the installing of apps and all kinds of things so far I have been able to even install msi based installers which microsoft says you cant even do. I even moved all my installers to the graphical mode but I had these same problems of not finding things correctly. For some reason the inf file bypasses it though. I'm wondering now if I could install this hotfix through an inf file and therefor bypass the virtual file system that is being used. Hey thanks for the idea I'll get right on it and see if that works. I've tried about everything else. Something has to work. If microsft can break it we can at least fix some of it right. Oh on a side note I found a way to get around file protection. I'm trying to get it to work like I want now but I should have something for you all soon on this also. Well that is so that themes are used correctly on first boot due to file protection being bypassed kind of. Not shut off but bypassed.

well iuse virtual pc also and it's kind of apain to do it on virtual pc but it does work.

oh man yea I forgot about htat one. That hotfix is really stinky about having the full path. There was no way around hard cideing it. Thanks for the find guys. As for missing files. What is going on is that uneeded files are delted from each directory but some of them are not in each directory so you get fiels not found on the command prompt that is ok and will cause no problems.

I explain that and a few other things in this thread. http://board.MSFN.org/index.php?showtopic=8366 well ot be more exact i explain how to set backgrounds I also setup my users in such a way that these settings are for all users.. here I explain how to set up users. http://board.MSFN.org/index.php?act=ST&f=70&t=8389

lol the error's are not for mising files but it wants to know if you want ot overwriute files. I think For the next version that I will fix this so that it will not do that anymore. For now just say yes to all. It want to know if you want to overwrite files and if you have renamed your patches correctly then it will not matter as the newer wones will be installed over the older ones. If there is an error in the file I would like to see how you have fixed it but I can gurantee that it works as advertised like it is as long as you have your hotfixes sorted correctly in the directories they belong in.

ok as for the jscript update it should be in the 2nd directory. The ie update it should be in the second directory also. if you hae them in the first please move them to he second here is my directory lising for 1 05/30/2003 11:50 PM 1,051,936 KB820291.exe 06/10/2003 12:05 AM 354,080 KB821253.exe 06/11/2003 11:17 PM 5,327,648 KB821557.exe 07/02/2003 05:42 AM 384,288 KB823559.exe 07/05/2003 08:18 PM 1,291,040 KB823980.exe 08/12/2003 09:42 AM 427,368 Q322011.exe 09/24/2002 01:50 AM 711,528 Q323255.exe 11/15/2002 12:17 AM 882,536 Q327979.exe 11/23/2002 01:02 AM 4,137,320 Q328310.exe 09/25/2002 11:46 PM 381,288 Q329048.exe 09/24/2002 01:24 AM 495,464 Q329115.exe 01/03/2003 08:48 PM 585,576 Q329170.exe 09/30/2002 07:55 PM 289,128 Q329390.exe 10/02/2002 08:59 PM 214,888 Q329834.exe 11/27/2002 11:41 PM 5,550,440 Q810565.exe 11/18/2002 11:49 PM 660,840 Q810577.exe 12/04/2002 06:32 PM 388,456 Q810833.exe 04/25/2003 06:06 AM 3,318,120 Q811493.exe 02/01/2003 02:00 AM 425,832 Q814033.exe 02/20/2003 02:18 AM 1,018,216 Q814995.exe 05/02/2003 06:43 PM 537,376 Q815021.exe 03/10/2003 11:18 PM 953,704 Q815485.exe 03/31/2003 07:42 PM 426,344 Q817606.exe and 2 01/16/2003 11:47 PM 369,504 js56nen.exe 06/19/2003 06:00 PM 1,950,856 KB822964.exe 08/15/2003 08:18 AM 1,992,832 q330994.exe 08/15/2003 08:17 AM 2,064,512 q818529.exe 08/20/2003 02:07 PM 2,218,112 q822925.exe

ah that would explain a few things yes you need inf files that would be why nvidia, via and ati I have been having no problems wiht it.

hm those more or less look correct. I dont have time right now to check al lthe numbers but you did rename them correctly. Do me a favor and show me the listing of what is in your 5/svcpack directory and also what is in your 5/svcpack.inf also waht exact erros are you getting. If yu are getting popup windows asking if you want to overwrite files ten that is normal for the fixes in directory 2 and 3. For the others there should be no error. Last for now you will want to leave out the mdac fix in directory 3 as I have not got that one figured out yet. If you figure it out please let me know.

well it should be the hotfix patch number not the size.

perhaps but I woulkd bet that he had the path wrong. I have used it on both old and new nvidia cards.

not to mention that if you did it the way shown in the guide you would already have a working instelation. The thing is if you use oempnpdriverpath correctly in your winnt.sif then it automaticly chooses which drivers you need for your hardware. I use this for both nvidia and via chipseted motherboards. I do have an intell one here but have not added it yet to my driver paths as the board needs to be rma'd first. also so you know I cant speak for others but I too run a shop and do network admin as well as my own oem systems. I have no reason to waste anybodies time on things that dont work. Since here in my shop I cant afford to have them not working. Why would I waste my time? Not to mention that I have already made a bunch of error's getting this figured out and now I'm sharing my hard work with others so they dont have to make the same stupid mistakes that i made.

good i hope it helps as I have worked quite a while to get it just right.

hm here is my whole winnt.sif and I don't get any of those questions. ;SetupMgrTag [Data] AutoPartition=0 MsDosInitiated="0" UnattendedInstall="Yes" [Unattended] AutoActivate="no" ;CrashDumpSetting="0" DisableDynamicUpdates=Yes ;FileSystem=LeaveAlone ;Hibernation=0 UnattendMode=FullUnattended OemSkipEula=Yes OemPreinstall=Yes TargetPath=\WINDOWS Repartition=No UnattendSwitch="Yes" WaitForReboot="No" NoWaitAfterTextMode=1 NoWaitAfterGUIMode=1 DriverSigningPolicy=Ignore OemPnPDriversPath="Drivers\radeon-cat3_6\2KXP_INF;Drivers\radeon-cat3_6\TV_Capture\WDM_XP;Drivers\Nvidia; Drivers\nforce;Drivers\nforce\AudioDRV;Drivers\nforce\AudioUtl;Drivers\nforce\Display;Drivers\nforce\Ethernet; Drivers\nforce\GART;Drivers\nforce\IDE;Drivers\nforce\MemCtl;Drivers\nforce\SMBus;Drivers\nforce\USB; Drivers\IDE_RAID;Drivers\4in1442v;Drivers\4in1442v\AGP;Drivers\4in1442v\AGP33;Drivers\4in1442v\AgpME; Drivers\4in1442v\IDEWinXP;Drivers\4in1442v\Inf;Drivers\4in1442v\IRQ;Drivers\4in1442v\Pfd;Drivers\4in1442v\WinXP; Drivers\VIA-VT6103;Drivers\wdm;Drivers\wdm\wdm;" [GuiUnattended] AdminPassword=* EncryptedAdminPassword=no OEMSkipRegional=1 TimeZone="004" OemSkipWelcome=1 [UserData] ProductID=******* ; ProductID=****** FullName="User" OrgName="My Home" ComputerName=Computer [Display] BitsPerPel=32 Xresolution=1024 YResolution=768 Vrefresh=85 [TapiLocation] CountryCode=1 [Identification] JoinWorkgroup=WORKGROUP [Networking] InstallDefaultComponents=Yes [Branding] BrandIEUsingUnattended=Yes [URL] Home_Page=www.webmedic.net Help_Page=www.webmedic.net Search_Page=www.google.com [Components] msmsgs=off msnexplr=off freecell=off hearts=off minesweeper=off pinball=off solitaire=off spider=off zonegames=off OEAccess=off [Shell] ; DefaultStartPanelOff = Yes ; DefaultThemesOff = Yes ; defaultthemesoff = yes will override this setting CustomDefaultThemeFile = "%systemroot%\Resources\Themes\MyTheme.theme" [GuiRunOnce] %systemdrive%\install\first_boot.cmd if you use this change the oempnpdrivrepath. It should be all on one line.

hm did you read the guide it does not say to do it at all like that.. http://www.MSFN.org/unattended/xp/index.htm