Mike500

and did you get an answer..dude For sheezy... my neezy.

Dude.. i asked that here: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=23604

I'm using that already. So when i install from slipstreamed SP2, MS JVM isn't even installed? But if it is, of course i wanna have the latest version, even if i don't use it. I'm weird like that

Since SP2 is finished, i wonder what's included and thus can be deleted from the unattended CD which was based on SP1 + patches. I know SP2 includes WMP9, DirectX 9.0c and pretty much all the hotfixes. But what about things like js56nde.exe, vbs56nde.exe, msjavwu.exe? Are those also obsolete now?

Can someone take a screenshot?

Those are easy: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced] "Hidden"=dword:00000001 "HideFileExt"=dword:00000000 "ShowSuperHidden"=dword:00000001

Thanks AaronXP. Something i noticed, maybe you want to update the guide with Diskeeper 8 and Norton Antivirus 2004.

Just curious if they changed anything, especially with the registration (haven't tried 6.x yet). But it sounds like it's the same?

If you can live with the german version, that one is activation-free.

Anyone tried unattended install of Nero 6?

Why worthless? Not that i'd use qchain, but what makes you think there will be no more single hotfixes between the security rollup and SP2?

Haha, that must be the 20th or so!

I agree, it's more of a philisophical question than anything else. But since the list of commands of MS-DOS vs. NT/XP are different in some respects, i think it's good to use .cmd when you write something for XP.

Yes, of course.. but it's a matter of principle that .cmd should be used on NT based systems.

By the way, XP has no DOS anymore. Thus, .bat is technically a wrong extension. Use .cmd instead.

Ok... once again... delete: folder \MANUAL folder \SUPPORT\MSI folder \SUPPORT\MSIE Any files in the root folder except NAVSETUP.EXE and README.TXT Finally, extract the newest virus definitions to \VIRUSDEF. Then RAR the whole thing.

Ok, don't remove Q323255 and Q329170 just yet. See the other thread for info. Basically, the files have higher version numbers with the new fixes, but Windows doesn't seem to recognize that and still lists the older fixes in WindowsUpdate.

BTW, my NAV2004.exe is now 32 MB big.

Yes, i just tried it! Just download the newest definition file from ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/antivirus_definitions/norton_antivirus and extract it to \VIRUSDEF of your NAV folder, overwriting the old files.

Well that's just great. Windows doesn't recognize that newer file versions are on the disk, and lists Q323255 and Q329170 in the online WindowsUpdate. Either a registry trick is needed (add the uninstall string to the registry to make Windows think that they're installed) or keeping the old patches even though they are not needed. P.S. All files i checked have the correct version numbers.

I checked each of the replaced hotfixes, but all they had were the usual support files that are needed to install the updated files. No extra files or special registry entries. Today i will also do a fresh unattended install on another PC to go 100% sure, and to check the file version numbers to see if everything goes as planned.

Q323255 can be removed, it's obviously superceded by Q811630. Q329170 can be removed, it's obviously superceded by Q817606. Q815021 can theoretically be removed, it's superceded by KB820128. But KB820128 is semi-official and not in the list, so don't remove Q815021 if you don't have KB820128. More info in this thread.

Here is the list of fixes that are obviously superceded by newer ones, although Microsoft doesn't state that. The new patches include the same files, but newer versions of them. Q811630 supercedes Q323255 Q323255: 22-Sep-2002 00:13 5.2.3644.0 10,752 %WINDIR%\Hh.exe 10-Sep-2002 11:06 5.2.3669.0 512,624 %WINDIR%\System32\Hhctrl.ocx 23-Sep-2002 17:13 5.2.3644.0 37,888 %WINDIR%\System32\Hhsetup.dll 23-Sep-2002 17:13 5.2.3644.0 143,872 %WINDIR%\System32\Itircl.dll 23-Sep-2002 17:13 5.2.3644.0 122,368 %WINDIR%\System32\Itss.dll Q811630: 17-Dec-2002 22:43 5.2.3644.0 10,752 %Windir%\Hh.exe 20-Dec-2002 20:38 5.2.3735.0 516,192 %Windir%\System32\Hhctrl.ocx 10-Jan-2003 19:43 5.2.3644.0 37,888 %Windir%\System32\Hhsetup.dll 10-Jan-2003 19:43 5.2.3644.0 143,872 %Windir%\System32\Itircl.dll 10-Jan-2003 19:43 5.2.3644.0 122,368 %Windir%\System32\Itss.dll Q817606 supercedes Q329170 Q329170: 20-Dec-2002 17:36 5.1.2600.1154 322,048 Srv.sys Q817606: 28-Mar-2003 15:54 5.1.2600.1193 322,048 Srv.sys KB820128 supercedes Q815021 Q815021: 01-May-2003 20:56 5.1.2600.1217 654,336 Ntdll.dll KB820128: 22-May-2003 21:46 5.1.2600.1221 654,336 Ntdll.dll Note: KB820128 is only semi-official, get it from ftp://ftp.zdnet.de/pcpro/treiber/servicep...128-x86-ENU.exe (english XP) or ftp://ftp.zdnet.de/pcpro/treiber/servicep...128-x86-DEU.exe (german XP).

Trying to find out if any new fix supercedes an older one, and to have a list for the future when new fixes are released, i made this list of the files that the current hotfixes update. Further down, i add an an explanation about fixes i found to be superceded by newer fixes. So don't be surprised if a couple fix numbers are missing from this list. Also note that this is my personal list; it also includes semi-official fixes. Sorted roughly by date. 1) Q318089: 26-Feb-2002 19:58 5.6.0.7426 462,906 Vbscript.dll 2) hu1002_pro.exe: 31-Jul-2002 ? 3) Q322011: 11-Sep-2002 14:57 5.2.1776.1024 130,048 Fxsclnt.exe 4) Q323183: 17-Sep-2002 09:49 41,787 Blutooth.chm 24-Sep-2002 13:55 5,812 Bth.inf 24-Sep-2002 13:56 5.1.2600.1125 18,944 Bthci.dll 24-Sep-2002 13:56 5.1.2600.1125 14,464 Bthenum.sys 24-Sep-2002 13:56 5.1.2600.1125 27,648 Bthmodem.sys 24-Sep-2002 13:56 5.1.2600.1125 227,584 Bthport.sys 24-Sep-2002 13:55 1,790 Bthprint.inf 24-Sep-2002 13:56 5.1.2600.1125 29,952 Bthprint.sys 24-Sep-2002 13:56 5.1.2600.1125 26,624 Bthserv.dll 24-Sep-2002 13:56 5.1.2600.1125 17,280 Bthusb.sys 24-Sep-2002 13:56 5.1.2600.1125 24,064 Btsetup.exe 24-Sep-2002 14:25 5.1.2600.1125 151,040 Hdwwiz.cpl 24-Sep-2002 13:55 1,992 Hidbth.inf 24-Sep-2002 13:56 5.1.2600.1125 22,400 Hidbth.sys 24-Sep-2002 10:36 5.1.2600.1125 34,432 Hidclass.sys 24-Sep-2002 14:25 5.1.2600.1125 111,104 Irprops.cpl 24-Sep-2002 13:55 25,969 Mdmbtmdm.inf 24-Sep-2002 14:25 5.1.2600.1125 109,568 Mdminst.dll 24-Sep-2002 14:25 5.1.2600.1125 528,384 Printui.dll 24-Sep-2002 13:56 5.1.2600.1125 52,992 Rfcomm.sys 24-Sep-2002 13:55 4,470 Tdibth.inf 24-Sep-2002 14:25 5.1.2600.1125 14,848 Usbmon.dll 24-Sep-2002 13:56 5.1.2600.1125 28,672 Wshbth.dll 5) Q327979: 14-Nov-2002 12:58 2.05.53 199,680 IAC25_32.AX 14-Nov-2002 12:58 4.51.16.03 848,384 IR41_32.AX 14-Nov-2002 12:58 4.30.62.02 120,320 IR41_QC.DLL 14-Nov-2002 12:58 4.30.64.01 338,432 IR41_QCX.DLL 14-Nov-2002 12:58 R.5.10.15.2.55 755,200 IR50_32.DLL 14-Nov-2002 12:58 R.5.10.63.2.48 200,192 IR50_QC.DLL 14-Nov-2002 12:58 R.5.10.64.2.48 183,808 IR50_QCX.DLL 14-Nov-2002 12:58 R.5.10.15.2.51 154,624 IVFSRC.AX 6) Q328310: 01-Nov-2002 19:13 1,080,070 Sysmain.sdb 01-Nov-2002 20:26 5.1.2600.1134 528,896 User32.dll 23-Oct-2002 13:55 5.1.2600.1134 1,694,336 Win32k.sys 01-Nov-2002 20:26 5.1.2600.1134 272,896 Winsrv.dll 7) Q329048: 25-Sep-2002 19:18 6.0.2800.1126 316,928 Zipfldr.dll 8) Q329115: 23-Sep-2002 20:10 5.131.2600.1123 544,256 Crypt32.dll 9) Q329390: 30-Sep-2002 15:58 6.0.2800.1125 125,440 Shmedia.dll 10)Q329441: 15-Oct-2002 15:32 5.1.2600.1132 226,816 Srrstr.dll 11)Q329834: 01-Oct-2002 22:52 5.1.2600.1129 46,208 Raspptp.sys 12)Q810272: 12-Nov-2002 21:00 5.1.2600.1142 50,176 Dmusic.sys 13)Q810565: 20-Nov-2002 11:50 5.1.2600.1143 179,200 Accwiz.exe 26-Nov-2002 15:36 5.2.3644.0 10,752 Hh.exe 26-Nov-2002 15:35 5.2.3718.0 513,632 Hhctrl.ocx 27-Nov-2002 11:50 5.2.3644.0 37,888 Hhsetup.dll 27-Nov-2002 11:50 5.2.3644.0 143,872 Itircl.dll 27-Nov-2002 11:50 5.2.3644.0 122,368 Itss.dll 20-Nov-2002 11:50 5.1.2600.1143 67,584 Magnify.exe 20-Nov-2002 12:22 5.1.2600.1143 230,400 Migwiz.exe 20-Nov-2002 11:50 5.1.2600.1143 51,200 Narrator.exe 20-Nov-2002 11:50 5.1.2600.1143 212,480 Osk.exe 27-Nov-2002 11:50 5.1.2600.1143 94,208 Pchshell.dll 27-Nov-2002 11:50 6.00.2800.1145 1,331,200 Shdocvw.dll 27-Nov-2002 11:50 6.00.2800.1145 8,239,616 Shell32.dll 27-Nov-2002 11:50 6.00.2800.1143 445,440 Urlmon.dll 14)Q810577: 18-Nov-2002 16:27 5.1.2600.1143 392,576 Mrxsmb.sys 15)Q810833: 04-Dec-2002 00:50 5.1.2600.1147 68,608 Locator.exe 16)Q811630: 17-Dec-2002 22:43 5.2.3644.0 10,752 Hh.exe 20-Dec-2002 20:38 5.2.3735.0 516,192 Hhctrl.ocx 10-Jan-2003 19:43 5.2.3644.0 37,888 Hhsetup.dll 10-Jan-2003 19:43 5.2.3644.0 143,872 Itircl.dll 10-Jan-2003 19:43 5.2.3644.0 122,368 Itss.dll 17)Q812415: 31-Jan-2003 15:43 5.1.2600.1164 87,040 Atapi.sys 31-Jan-2003 15:43 5.1.2600.1164 23,680 Pciidex.sys 14-Nov-2002 10:01 5.3.10.0 4,608 Spmsg.dll 18)Q814033: 31-Jan-2003 21:46 5.1.2600.1164 238,080 Newdev.dll 19)Q814078: 13-Jan-2003 20:57 5.6.0.8513 589,881 Jscript.dll 20)Q814995: 19-Feb-2003 11:01 1,086,000 Sysmain.sdb 21)Q330994: 03-Mar-2003 04:24 6.0.2800.1123 75,776 Directdb.dll 03-Mar-2003 04:41 6.0.2800.1165 592,384 Inetcomm.dll 09-Mar-2003 12:42 6.0.2800.1123 47,616 Inetres.dll 03-Mar-2003 09:24 6.0.2800.1123 44,032 Msident.dll 03-Mar-2003 03:57 6.0.2800.1123 56,832 Msimn.exe 11-Oct-2002 02:08 6.0.2800.1158 1,174,528 Msoe.dll 03-Mar-2003 03:57 6.0.2800.1123 228,864 Msoeacct.dll 03-Mar-2003 03:57 6.0.2800.1123 2,479,616 Msoeres.dll 03-Mar-2003 03:57 6.0.2800.1123 91,136 Msoert2.dll 03-Mar-2003 03:57 6.0.2800.1123 93,184 Oeimport.dll 03-Mar-2003 03:57 6.0.2800.1123 55,808 Oemig50.exe 03-Mar-2003 03:57 6.0.2800.1123 31,744 Oemiglib.dll 03-Mar-2003 03:57 6.0.2800.1123 42,496 Wab.exe 03-Mar-2003 03:57 6.0.2800.1123 462,848 Wab32.dll 03-Mar-2003 03:57 6.0.2800.1123 30,208 Wabfind.dll 03-Mar-2003 03:57 6.0.2800.1123 77,824 Wabimp.dll 03-Mar-2003 03:57 6.0.2800.1123 27,648 Wabmig.exe 22)Q815485: 10-Mar-2003 ? 23)Q816093: 13-Mar-2003 14:51 2,678 Classes.cer 13-Mar-2003 14:51 5,751,849 Classes.zip 17-Mar-2003 19:05 5.0.3810.0 404,752 Javart.dll 13-Mar-2003 18:33 5.0.3810.0 172,304 Jview.exe 17-Mar-2003 19:05 5.0.3810.0 946,960 Msjava.dll 13-Mar-2003 14:51 2,678 Msjdbc.cer 13-Mar-2003 14:51 137,482 Msjdbc.zip 20-Mar-2003 08:53 10,957 Osp.zip 24)Q817287: 25-Mar-2003 21:40 5.1.2600.1190 53,760 Cryptsvc.dll 25)Q817606: 28-Mar-2003 15:54 5.1.2600.1193 322,048 Srv.sys 26)Q819639: 06-Jun-2003 00:50 9.0.0.3008 4,653,056 Wmp.dll 27)Q820369: 11-Jun-2003 12:15 6.0.2800.1209 1,175,040 Msoe.dll 28)Q822925: 13-Jul-2003 20:02 6.0.2800.1226 2,793,472 Mshtml.dll 23-May-2003 17:15 6.0.2800.1203 1,338,880 Shdocvw.dll 13-Jul-2003 20:05 6.0.2800.1226 395,264 Shlwapi.dll 13-Jul-2003 20:03 6.0.2800.1226 483,840 Urlmon.dll 29)KB282010: 11-May-2003 ? 30)KB817778: 10-Jul-2003 16:19 5.1.2600.1240 95,232 6to4svc.dll 10-Jul-2003 16:19 5.1.2600.1240 31,232 Inetmib1.dll 30-Jun-2003 17:56 3,397 Ip6fw.inf 30-Jun-2003 20:35 5.1.2600.1240 29,952 Ip6fw.sys 30-Jun-2003 20:35 5.1.2600.1240 49,152 Ip6fwapi.dll 30-Jun-2003 20:35 5.1.2600.1240 16,384 Ip6fwcfg.dll 30-Jun-2003 20:35 5.1.2600.1240 40,448 Ip6fwhlp.dll 10-Jul-2003 16:19 5.1.2600.1240 79,872 Iphlpapi.dll 30-Jun-2003 20:30 5.1.2600.1240 48,640 Ipv6.exe 10-Jul-2003 16:19 5.1.2600.1240 54,272 Ipv6mon.dll 30-Jun-2003 17:56 6,157 Netip6.inf 10-Jul-2003 16:19 5.1.2600.1240 71,168 Netoc.dll 30-Jun-2003 20:10 9,328 Netoc.inf 30-Jun-2003 20:33 5.1.2600.1240 83,456 Netsh.exe 30-Jun-2003 20:38 5.1.2600.1240 109,056 P2p.dll 30-Jun-2003 17:56 6,592 P2p.inf 30-Jun-2003 20:38 5.1.2600.1240 79,872 P2pgasvc.dll 30-Jun-2003 20:38 5.1.2600.1240 294,912 P2pgraph.dll 30-Jun-2003 20:38 5.1.2600.1240 81,408 P2pnetsh.dll 30-Jun-2003 20:38 5.1.2600.1240 494,080 P2psvc.dll 30-Jun-2003 20:38 5.1.2600.1240 45,568 Pnrpnsp.dll 12-Jun-2003 20:36 2.1.4701.0 151,552 Sqldb20.dll 12-Jun-2003 20:36 2.1.4701.0 462,848 Sqlqp20.dll 12-Jun-2003 20:36 2.1.4701.0 110,592 Sqlse20.dll 30-Jun-2003 20:30 5.1.2600.1240 203,008 Tcpip6.sys 30-Jun-2003 20:35 5.1.2600.1240 11,776 Tunmp.sys 10-Jul-2003 16:19 5.1.2600.1240 70,656 Ws2_32.dll 10-Jul-2003 16:19 5.1.2600.1240 13,312 Wship6.dll 30-Jun-2003 17:49 5.1.2600.1240 172,544 Xpob2res.dll 30-Jun-2003 20:38 5.1.2600.1240 26,624 Npcustom.dll 31)KB818043: 02-May-2003 01:12 5.1.2600.1210 184,320 Gptext.dll 02-May-2003 11:05 5.1.2600.1210 78,720 Ipsec.sys 02-May-2003 11:04 98,304 Ipseccmd.exe 02-May-2003 13:12 5.1.2600.1210 334,848 Ipsecsnp.dll 02-May-2003 13:12 5.1.2600.1210 156,160 Ipsecsvc.dll 02-May-2003 13:12 5.1.2600.1210 364,544 Ipsmsnap.dll 02-May-2003 13:12 5.1.2600.1210 200,704 Oakley.dll 02-May-2003 13:12 5.1.2600.1210 98,304 Polstore.dll 02-May-2003 13:12 5.1.2600.1210 163,840 Rasmans.dll 21-Mar-2003 16:54 6,656 Spmsg.dll 21-Mar-2003 16:56 89,088 Spuninst.exe 02-May-2003 13:12 5.1.2600.1210 29,184 Winipsec.dll 32)KB820128: 22-May-2003 21:46 5.1.2600.1221 654,336 Ntdll.dll 20-May-2003 22:00 5.1.2600.1224 1,896,448 Ntkrnlmp.exe 20-May-2003 22:00 5.1.2600.1224 1,952,128 Ntkrnlpa.exe 20-May-2003 22:00 5.1.2600.1224 1,924,096 Ntkrpamp.exe 20-May-2003 22:00 5.1.2600.1224 1,928,832 Ntoskrnl.exe 19-May-2003 18:09 5.1.2600.1224 99,840 Services.exe 33)KB820291: 29-May-2003 15:47 5.1.2600.1228 579,584 Appwiz.cpl 12-May-2003 01:12 6.0.2800.1221 996,352 Explorer.exe 12-May-2003 01:13 5.1.2600.1221 33,792 Shmgrate.exe 01-May-2003 21:37 20,223 Spad.chm 34)KB821253: 09-Jun-2003 16:11 5.1.2600.1232 67,072 faultrep.dll 35)KB821557: 07-Jul-2003 21:26 6.0.2800.1233 8,240,640 Shell32.dll 36)KB822603: 03-Jul-2003 17:53 5.1.2600.1243 28,160 Usbccgp.sys 03-Jul-2003 17:50 5.1.2600.1243 25,216 Usbehci.sys 03-Jul-2003 17:52 5.1.2600.1243 53,120 Usbhub.sys 03-Jul-2003 17:51 5.1.2600.1243 16,000 Usbohci.sys 03-Jul-2003 17:49 5.1.2600.1243 138,752 Usbport.sys 03-Jul-2003 17:51 5.1.2600.1243 19,328 Usbuhci.sys 37)KB823559: 27-Jun-2003 16:38 2003.1100.5426 311,864 Html32.cnv 27-Jun-2003 16:38 2003.1100.5426 116,288 Msconv97.dll 38)Q823718: 22-Jul-2003 18:27 2000.81.9041.40 61,440 Dbnetlib.dll 22-Jul-2003 18:22 3.520.9041.40 204,800 Odbc32.dll 22-Jul-2003 18:28 2000.81.9041.40 24,576 Odbcbcp.dll 22-Jul-2003 18:28 3.520.9041.40 98,304 Odbccp32.dll 31-Jul-2003 18:47 2000.81.9041.40 471,040 Sqloledb.dll 22-Jul-2003 18:27 2000.81.9041.40 385,024 Sqlsrv32.dll 39)KB824105: 18-Jul-2003 15:15 5.2.3790.69 195,072 Netbt.sys 40)KB824146: 25-Aug-2003 18:53 5.1.2600.1263 1,172,992 Ole32.dll 25-Aug-2003 18:53 5.1.2600.1254 532,480 Rpcrt4.dll 25-Aug-2003 18:53 5.1.2600.1263 260,608 Rpcss.dll

Affirmative.