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My Browser Builds (Part 3)
athlonxpuser replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thank you, I just replaced the manifest.json with your modified version, it installed just fine and works as intended. I'm not sure why it didn't want to work with my version but maybe it still refused to install because I didn't include "strict_min_version". -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
athlonxpuser replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Hey there, I want to install the extension Youtube Redux in my Serpent browser, however when I try it I only get the message "This add-on could not be installed because it appears to be corrupt". I already found a post on this forum where it is explained that you just need to patch the xpi file by editing the manifest.json and adding an application ID but it still doesn't work for me. The same add-on installs just fine in Firefox 48.0.2. Is there any way to make it work with Serpent? -
Thanks for your detailed description! Well my P3 system is a dual socket 370 system with 2x 1 GHz Coppermine cpus, 2 GB of SD-RAM and a Radeon HD4670 graphics card. The bottleneck here is definitely the cpus since they are at 100% usage all the time when loading web sites. Currently I use Serpent/Basilisk which I guess should be the same as New Moon 28, just with a different design. I already have NoScript installed and don't allow any scripts whenever it's possible but many sites still take a long time to load, especially bigger sites with a lot of content. But maybe my expectations are just too high and I should stop thinking about a time (until around 2012) where even an old single core could still browse the web smoothly and could handle youtube playback etc. I feel like the fastest browser on this old machine is still Chrome 34 which is the last version that doesn't require a CPU with SSE2 but unfortunately it's from 2014 so it's quite outdated at this point and fails to load some web sites already.
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Which browser do you use to go online on a pentium 3? I feel like new moon 27, serpent, etc are so slow on a pentium 3 that they are almost unusable and even basic sites like google take forever to load.
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I found an option in the network settings to adjust the Receive Buffer Size for my Realtek integrated network card where I can select 8k, 16k, 32k or 64k but no matter what I choose, it doesn't change anything when it comes to using newer versions of Firefox with Javascript enabled. After that I also tried some old 3com PCI network card but with that one it didn't work either. Yes, I just installed that one and it works very well, it can load the pages quickly and displays most pages correctly or at least readable. Even sites like wikipedia work which didn't want to work with Retrozilla. Unfortunately youtube doesn't even load the start page but that's no surprise with such an old version of Firefox. Palemoon 26.5 doesn't want to start here on Windows 98. I can still see the browser window but then it crashes immediately, no matter if I select Windows 2000 SP4 or Windows XP SP2 compatibility for both palemoon.exe and Xul.dll. I tried of all of that already but it doesn't help, I can't get it to respond again when it has frozen, even after waiting for many minutes.
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No, unfortunately starting Firefox in safe mode didn't change anything. I also can't open the web console since Firefox freezes instantly when trying to load a website and won't respond to any input. graphics section under about:support looks like this for me:
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That line is already there in my prefs.js file.
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So I removed KernelEx completely, reinstalled it and then used exactly the same files you mentioned but still nothing has changed. Firefox of various versions will freeze instantly whenever I try to load a page and the only way to make it work is to disable Javascript completely. By the way I also found out that I have the same issues with K-Meleon 74.
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I installed 81.98 for the nvidia card and 6.2 for the ati radeon card, both of them were found via the driver search on the official nvidia / amd site. So later this evening I will reinstall Windows 98 but before that I wonder if I might have used the wrong updated KernelEx files? I installed KernelEx 4.5.2 normally and then copied the KernelEx 4.5.2019.24 Updates in DOS mode. However in the first post of this thread it's stated that KernelEx 4.5.2016.19 should be used. Does that make any difference?
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I tested two different AGP cards now (9800Pro and 6800GT) but with both of them nothing really changed. With Javascript enabled Firefox freezes instantly whenever I try to load a page and with Javascript disabled it works, kind of. I even tried the much older version 10.0.11 and even there I have exactly the same issues. Doesn't work with Javascript enabled, works without Javascript even though it's kind of laggy and slow at loading pages. I guess I will do a complete reinstall of Win 98 SE... maybe I messed up something while installing all the patches or KernelEx.
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Yes I know the cpu isn't in the official support list but it was working completely fine under Win7 and Win XP... same for other cpus like Pentium E5800, they also work fine even though they are not listed. Apart from the issues with Firefox, the system also runs fine on Windows 98 SE. I can browse the web with IE6 (very limited amount of sites still works) and Retrozilla (the updated version with TLS 1.2 etc) which actually isn't that bad. Yeah during the next days I will try a different AGP gpu like Radeon 9800 Pro or geforce 6800 to see if that makes any difference.
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Test system is an asrock 775i65g, celeron 450 (core2-based, supports SSE2 and SSE3), gpu is the integrated Intel 82865G for now... I installed 2GB of RAM using Rloew's Ram Patch but I had only 512 MB before without the patch and it also didn't work. Disabling newtabpage in about:config didn't really make any difference for me. Yeah I have definitely picked WinXPSP2 and not legacy. With Javascript disabled it certainly seems to work better and most pages can load, however when it's enabled not even google or bing will work without freezing, while some people here can even watch youtube so there definitely must be something wrong on my side.
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Hey, I wonder what I'm doing wrong since all of this doesn't seem to work for me. I have installed Win 98 SE with all updates and KernelEx + current Core updates. I already tried Firefox versions 31.8, 35.0.1, 32.0.3 and a few others 3x versions. They can open at least but as soon as I open a website, the browser just freezes and doesn't respond anymore. Of course I set the firefox.exe and xul.dll to Win XP SP2 compatibility. I also tried versions 45.9 and 46.0.2 (with the required DLL files copied from Win XP SP3) but they crash immediately and just give me a message to send an error report. What could I be doing wrong?
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Well it seems like the issue isn't just related to Extreme Explorer 360 but indeed more like to Chrome in general. I tried the Yandex browser (based on Chrome 57) and the last official Chrome version for Windows XP which is Chrome 49 and there I have exactly the same issues. GPU process was unable to boot and no hardware acceleration available... Even though I'm sure it worked with old versions of Chrome in the past, I just can't remember if it was Chrome 49 or an even older version. So now I wonder if you guys here have the same issues or is something fcked up with my Win XP installation or drivers etc? Because the GPU is working pefectly fine in general and in Firefox-based browsers there are no issues with hardware acceleration.
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Hey, does anyone know how to enable hardware acceleration in extreme explorer 12? Under "chrome://gpu" it tells me "GPU process was unable to boot: GPU access is disabled in chrome://settings." I looked everywhere in the settings but couldnt find anything related to GPU access or hardware acceleration. I also tried to enable "Override software rendering list" but that didn't change anything. The system is an AMD Phenom II X4 965, 4GB of RAM, HD4670 AGP running Windows XP. Hardware acceleration works fine on other browsers like Serpent or old Chrome versions... without hardware acceleration youtube videos are not playing smoothly, not even in 480p.
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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
athlonxpuser replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
thank you, changing that value to false worked and now youtube is using the H264 codec. now i can at least watch youtube videos smoothly in 480p on my athlon xp system! -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
athlonxpuser replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
hey there, is there any way to force H264 instead of VP9 codec when watching youtube videos with your Serpent browser? I already tried to install the h264ify addon by erkserkserks but for some reason it doesn't work and I only get the error message "Installation aborted because the add-on appears to be corrupt".