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How about "Knew Moon"? On a side note, I feel that this thread is just an endless unending "infinite loop" and should be locked. Roy Tam has NOT made a public presence and insists upon sitting idle on the sidelines. Are we just to keep throwing out new names for the next "twenty years" or until Moonchild shows back up and ruffles feathers again? Roy Tam MUST take the LEAD on this and he HASN'T!

Disregard. I rebuilt my profile from scratch and everything is working now (yeah, I should have tried that first).

This seems to be server-side for Google Spreadsheets and for my parents' Citi credit card but newest NM27, newest NM28, and newest Arctic Fox won't load Google Spreadsheets and also won't sign in at Citi. I tried downgrading all three to no avail. Downgraded again to no avail. Kept downgrading several times (sometimes one week back, other times a couple months back). Finally got both to work using palemoon-28.2.0a1.win32-git-20180929-77af3f176-xpmod.7z. Not really sure why both stopped working and why I had to go back that far to get them to work. Will run with 28.2.0a1 9-29-18 for a while but may eventually upgrade one week at a time and see if that leads to where the break is. Odd that they've both worked for many many months but now all of a sudden don't work. Didn't really have time to see if I could isolate a cause. =========================================================================================================== Anyone else using Google Spreadsheets notice any issues recently?

I didn't have to add any .dll's. I just played over a dozen YouTube videos and they all worked for me. That said, I don't quite grasp the concept of HTML5 being the end-all litmus test on whether a browser is good or not. I use my "daily" browser for 30-50 tasks throughout the year. Some tasks each and every day, other tasks monthly, others maybe only once an entire year. And viewing "videos" doesn't even break into the top 50 !!! However, I do have a "YouTube Box". A laptop with a Core 2 Duo that's over 12 years old. It's used for nothing but playing YouTube videos and sending to the big screen TV. I have the latest Arctic Fox Win32 on that laptop and it just played every YouTube video I went to. But the CPU jumped up to 35 to 40%. Granted, I prefer to use Portable Chromium version 49.0.2623.23 for YouTube playback (I mispoke in an earlier post when I cited v48). My Chromium uses slightly less CPU but the addons I run on YouTube weren't offered in Firefox variants (at least at the time I set it up). But all in all, playing videos is very VERY far down on my list of expectations for my browser. What good is a browser where the GUI takes three seconds to load but it is 100% HTML5 compared to a browser where the GUI takes one second to load but drops to 90% HTML5 ??? I'll take that one-second GUI load time every day of the week :)

I *VETO* these two *HEAVILY*, no offense intended. They look like illustrations you'd see in an anatomy text discussing female reproductive organs. =================================================================================================== Where did the name "New Moon" come from in the first place? I thought it was an APPROVED "generic" branding and methinks it could remain "generic" FOREVER. People don't stumble upon these forks "by accident". There is no "confusion", from what I perceive, with these and their upstream counterparts. My computer-illiterate parents and grandparents, aunts, and uncles are NEVER going to "find" these forks. =================================================================================================== I propose a morphed version of something like this (from here - https://www.freepnglogos.com/images/beats-png-logo-5027.html ) Only three colors for the 'fox/panda', maybe four, then the fifth color is what is in red below. But the "b" would be an "R" (for Roytam) [or for Red Panda, lol]. And I propose the same EXACT icon be used for ALL of Roytam's builds. The "red" area would be one color for New Moon, another color for Serpent, yet another for Borealis. Roytam adds another unknown browser down the road, it's the same exact icon but a fourth color is introduced. =================================================================================================== I would also vote to *NOT* do what has been done 'upstream'. New "official" Pale Moon versions have one systray icon when "pinned" (Win10) and closed, another icon when opened. I for one do *NOT* like my systray icons behaving this way.

I think you'll be very impressed. It's been my exclusive browser at home since mid-October. ALL of these forks (and ALL the original non-fork bases) have a delayed load for the VERY FIRST load after a computer reboot and allowed cpu idle after reboot. I find that this "first load" is fastest with Arctic Fox then any of the others. The SECOND load is never an issue, loads quick and snappy, but the VERY FIRST load is lengthier.

The "branding" should be treaded lightly. I used GreenBrowser + Proxomitron exclusively from 2003/2004 all the way thru 2017/2018. Tabbed browsing using the IE6 engine long before tabbed IE7 showed up (company forced IE at the time). Company would prevent "installs" but I could run "portable" apps without issue (don't tell the IT guy). That worked for me for a VERY long time. But... Proxomitron was "high maintenance". I was fine with all of the "maintenance" - it was the web MY WAY and not the way that "script kiddies" threw it at me. But... It became too much of a hassle to edit and tweak for a couple credit card websites at the time. That led me to abandoning GreenBrowser + Proxomitron. My search led me through Maxthon, SlimBrowser, Vivaldi, Chrome, Chromium, Iron, Opera, Firefox, Flock, Waterfox, Icefox, IceDragon, Avant, Sleipnir, among many others I'm sure that I'm forgetting as I look back. Sleipnir and Chromium lasted the longest as far as my exclusives at the time. I eventually landed on a precursor (?) to New Moon. I forget the name of it but the "branding" was a RACCOON waiving his paw. Sounds "trivial" perhaps, but the RACCOON turned me away from that browser. Despite its functionality meeting ALL of my needs. The "branding" cut my time short with my trial of that browser. My home CPU is an i7 and came with Win 10 LTSB - would never do anything 10 without it being LTSB. But I opted to keep XP x64 instead. My computer can "handle" more resource-hungry web browsers - but it is NOT my "preference". So I ended up still hunting and stumbled into Roytam's builds. Ran v28 for a while, but reverted in favor of v27. Then arrived Arctic Fox Win32 - been my exclusive ever since. Edit: I'll add this. One of my gripes against v28 is because I do *not* 'want' to update each and every week. That borders again on "high maintenance". I would prefer kind of knowing which weekly release is best associated with the "stable" upstream versus the "nightly" upstream. I don't really have a need to update my browser each and every week.

I use Win10 at work but use XP x86, XP x64, and 2003 x86 at home. I seem to prefer a build that nobody here talks about so I finally created an account versus just watching and reading (often quite an entertaining read). I use Roytam's ARCTIC FOX build pretty much exclusively at home (a portable Chromium v48 runs my YouTube-to-bigscreen-TV box). I hope that ARCTIC FOX doesn't get lost in all of this. LOVE THE WORK, ROYTAM. Please don't let any of the "back-and-forth" discourage you in any way