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On 2/16/2020 at 6:00 AM, Omntech said:
Is Firefox or similar browsers being updated for XP,NT,Vista or older versions of say Fedora Linux?
If they aren't, which they aren't, then what the hell are you talking about when you say updated versions?
Somehow I don't think you're talking about RT's software here.
Basilisk is a fork of Firefox 52.9 ESR, if I'm not mistaken.
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2 hours ago, Omntech said:
Which are really non-existent for the most part. The only people really affected by them are dorks like you who basically spread them around with *YOUR* useage of the internet.
The days of non -dorks playing the hardware/software upgradge-ratrace game people like you play is pretty much over.
People are not going to trash their investments of time and money in their computers and cellphones and other equipment just to appease people like you.
You really need to get a clue and a life.
The reality is that people are going to keep using their old computers,software ,cellphones and other devices untill they die of hardware failure,because there's no real reason for them not to do so.
Nobody asked you to throw away your computer, cellphone, or any other device, but cool strawman, bud. If you and @ArcticFoxie want to use insecure versions of the very software that is updated on a regular basis, and offered to you free of charge in this very thread, then be my guest. Your irresponsibility is your business. By deliberately practicing terrible opsec, you're only harming yourself.
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10 hours ago, ArcticFoxie said:
Is this Paranoia or Conspiracy Theory?
I wasn't asking anybody to visit Citi's web site, for the record.
As I've stated over-and-over, I run version 28.2.2 (or thereabouts) from September 2018.
Because IT works for me and "newer" versions do NOT.
I 'all but' place people on "ignore" that chastise me for using a browser "from 2018" and wag their 'security hype' finger my way.
I'm HAPPY with my September 2018 version.
Using an old browser chalk full of security holes does not make you bold, or enlightened. Frankly, it's asinine, but you're free to do whatever you'd like.
When using an unsupported operating system, the least you can do is mitigate the security risks that come with browsing the internet.
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2 hours ago, grey_rat said:
Roytam1, please make the Firefox 68 version for SSE processors for Windows 7. On Linux, you can run Firefox 68 on non-SSE2 processors.
On Debian, yes. I'm not sure if the same applies to other distro's as well.
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4 hours ago, Dr. Drill said:
I have Thinkpad T42 with 2200BG card and WinXP Pro SP3 (POSready updates up to May 2019). Driver version 9.0.4.37. Wi-Fi works stably.
The problem of working wi-fi cards on Intel chips (including 2200BG) is associated with the KB4089694 update. If you installed update KB4089694, remove it in the usual way. This should solve the problem.
Post on forum.ru-board: https://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?forum=62&topic=30840&start=180#16
Google translated:
"... Today I checked Wi-Fi again after installing update KB4089694 on 2 laptops Acer1692, Acer1694. The lack of Internet access was confirmed. Removed KB4089694, rebooted - Wi-Fi restored. Perhaps this malfunction appears only with certain types of Wi-Fi adapters. In both cases, the card type is Intel (R) PRO / Wireless 2200BG Network Connection, driver version 9.0.4.39, the system is everywhere WinXP Pro original and licensed, until KB4089694 was released and previous updates were installed, I did not have problems with Internet access via Wi- Fi ...".
Thanks for this! I'll definitely give it a try later on
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15 hours ago, zago27 said:
Hi there!
I'm working on an IBM ThinkPad T42 and I'm trying out some hardware/software configurations on it. All seems to be working fine, but the WLAN adapter is starting to p*** me off.
It's an Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG card. I tried a different drivers from the Lenovo support page, from thinkpads.com driver listing and from Intel Download Center, but the only results I got were always the same: unstable connection, sudden dropouts, site scan with no networks detected. The problems were so stubborn that I thought the card itself was EOL, until I tried a Linux distro on the machine and VOILA', the thing is more stable than Ethernet.
Windows XP is the main OS I'm going to use on this laptop, but I also installed Windows 2000, Windows Vista and Linux Mint 19.3 trying to figure out what was wrong. Vista and Linux worked fine. XP and 2000 were a hot mess. Here are the drivers I tried:
- 9.0.4.39, dated 12/19/2007
- 9.0.4.37, dated 07/25/2007
- 9.0.4.8, dated 01/17/2006
- Original driver included with IBM Rescue & Recovery CD set, dated January 2005 (sorry, didn't get the INF version)
A quick Google search revealed a ton of problems since the early days of this card, but I guess there's a driver/chip lottery going on here, I can't explain myself what is wrong with that. If anyone has a stable driver, please let me know what version is it!
Thanks a lot!
I've experienced the very same problem with the same device, on multiple laptops. The problem only seems to crop up on machines that have the POS Ready 2009 updates installed. It works fine for me on vanilla SP3, Windows 2000, 7, and multiple Linux distro's.
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On 2/5/2020 at 9:58 PM, Wunderbar98 said:
= Modern Web Browser Emulation =
Emulate a recent Firefox or SeaMonkey web browser, tested in vanilla Windows 98. Performance is much too slow to be functional on a 1.8 Ghz system. Emulating a modern web browser needs a fast processor and lots of memory. This is just an experimental exercise and may not be practical. It would work best with maxed out hardware and kernel extensions for a newer, accelerated emulator. Even on decent hardare, browser configuration would likely need to be leaned out.
Minimum requirements:
- Vanilla Windows 98
- High speed internet
- 500 MB drive space
- 2 GHz processor
- 1 GB RAM
Best suited for the following use case:
- Want to run Windows 98 as the primary OS.
- Have adequate hardware to run emulation.
- Occasionally need a modern browser (eg. email, banking). [1]
- Don't want to run a multi-boot system.
- Desire to hack and try something new.
[1] Use at own risk.
This how to uses QEMU emulator with a Tiny Core Linux (TCL) guest, why:
- Freely available open source tools.
- No formal software install or registry changes.
- The sofware combination works in vanilla Windows 98.
- Low system resources, base TCL boots with < 64 MB RAM.
- Small footprint: QEMU < 2 MB extracted, TCL 16 MB ISO.
- Familiarity, previously contributed TCL patches and extensions.
- Up to a 15-20 year newer code base that can run a modern browser.
- TCL is actively developed and has a forum, wiki and reference book.
To me the neatest part is that Windows 98 acts as host, while the guest runs code almost 20 years newer. Recommend experimenting with QEMU in C:\Windows\temp and moving files to a permanent location later. In vanilla Windows 98, 7-Zip v9.20 can be used to handle ZIP and ISO files.
This example uses a 500 MB virtual disk for simplicity. Half is used to install and run a modern web browser and the other half is a fallback swap partition. The default config file (LAUNCH.BAT) allots 768 MB RAM to QEMU. Feel free to increase the virtual drive size and RAM allocation as hardware permits.
This guide can be used modularly and customized. For example, use different emulation or virtualization software, replace TCL with something else. Modify the size or number of virtual disks. There are graphic QEMU setup programs. If your system is running a newer version of Windows then accelerated emulation should be trialed. QEMU and TCL come with many configuration options, modify as desired.
This how to does not use or require clipboard or file pass through, etc. Depending on use case this can be a security plus, using a modern browser in semi-sandboxed environment. Otherwise research additional configuration options to allow these features. Note a very old version of QEMU is utilized, including unpatched bugs and security holes, use at own risk.
The how to uses a DOS COMMAND.COM window and a Linux virtual terminal to perform most tasks, explicit commands are provided. In QEMU's TCL, use up arrow for previous commands and tab autocomplete when possible to ensure the correct directory or filename is being utilized. Use 'ls' to list items in a directory, 'cd' to change directory, enter 'reset' to clear a cluttered terminal. Familiarity with Linux and the command line is helpful.README.TXT download (no JavaScript needed).
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=00957671279353361167
Download Win98_BrowserEmulator.zip (~16 MB) from below (no JavaScript needed).
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=96535970575296568771
Win98_BrowserEmulator.zip contents:
- QEMU v0.8.2 (2003-2005 era)
- Custom QEMU LAUNCH.BAT
- TinyCore-7.2.iso (TCL, 2015-2017 era)Very cool! I'll have to give this a try after I get off work tomorrow :)
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I've always chalked it up to Windows 7's more advanced CPU scheduler. I'm sure memory management has a bit to do with it as well.
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Looks like I hadn't installed the latest updates correctly. All is well now! Thanks!
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I'm trying to use KM74g on Windows 98SE with the latest KernelEx updates, but I'm getting the error "K-Meleon failed to initialize. Please reinstall." I set KernelEx compatibility mode to Windows 2000, and have tried all of the other available Windows compatibility versions as well. Any ideas?
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5 hours ago, roytam1 said:
it should but not tested
Confirmed working on Windows 98SE
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13 minutes ago, ArcticFoxie said:
@Roytam1 - I sincerely hope that you do *NOT* "align" yourself with LEAKED source code!
@Zero3k - I will personally lead the charge in suggesting you be BANNED from this form for making this request! This forum is not about "stealing" LEAKED source code! At least not in my view, I'll let others chime in for a consensus...
I bet you're fun at parties.
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2 hours ago, roytam1 said:
for fun, nostalgia, and investigation, tried to replace NSS to retrozilla-tff_sha384 version in old classila-based phoenix browser. of course it still some fixes to give user smooth experience, may review the code if there is time.
repo: https://github.com/roytam1/classilla/commits/tls12-exp
download (for fun!): http://o.rths.ml/gpc/files1.rt/phoenix-0.5-cl933-tls12.7z
Wow, thanks! Very nice :) is it Windows 98 compatible?
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On 1/20/2020 at 6:56 AM, siria said:
ClassicNick said:
> As a Christmas day gift (Update on April 1st?), RoyTam1 released a K-Meleon 1.5.4 build with TLS 1.2 support
Attention NOT portable Profiles!
The build itself is great, with TLS1.2 to get rid of most "no cipher_overlap" errors, just a little warning:
7z builds of KM used to be portable out-of-box, yet this one is NOT.
The switch-file "profile.ini" (can be empty) is missing in the root folder.
That means if you already have an older KM-profile in your systems, from whichever (younger?) KM-version, this build will snatch it and possibly modify it.
Strongly recommend to make a backup copy of your previous KM-profiles before starting this.
Or better, modify it to always start with the ProfileManager.Thanks for the heads up.
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51 minutes ago, ArcticFoxie said:
I'm not the least bit worried.
All just a bunch of HYPE and HYSTERIA.
NOT worth ANY of the hassle, if you ask me.
Again, I'll stick with my ~28.2.2.
*IF* I were worried, I'd just use a VirtualBox guest to do all my browsing.
What is the point of refusing to upgrade? Its the same browser, but with security mitigations.
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14 hours ago, jaclaz said:
If suggestions are open, what about "The Nameless Browser" (TNB for short) which is accurate
and vaguely reminds of H.P. Lovecraft :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nameless_City
jaclaz
What was H.P Lovecrafts cats name again? I kid, i kid..
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3 hours ago, Omntech said:
You're *NOT* making suggestions. You're browbeating him over it. There's a difference. Do I need to spell out what it is?
You only have 2 posts, so you're likely new here. Who are you to show up and start jumping down peoples throats?
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3 hours ago, Mcinwwl said:
Because intellectual property does not exist and Stallman was right, ya'nou...
where is the lie?
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32 minutes ago, looking4awayout said:
Is it possible to develop an IA32/SSE version of Arctic Fox? I am in the process of rebuilding my RDD (because as you might have read, my motherboard committed suicide a couple of days ago..) and I'm curious about it.
I've built it for Linux before without SSE2. However, it is just a fork of Palemoon 27, so im not sure what point there would be.
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Hopefully this hatchet can be buried for good. I'm a huge fan of the work that everyone here has done.
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11 minutes ago, LoneCrusader said:
Here we go again... so much for the offer to be "friendly and helpful." Just like last time it doesn't appear to be very sincere.
And the idea that roytam1 is somehow "damaging" you is ridiculous on its face. Whether you like it or not, he's generating more users for the projects you're involved in. He just happens to make these projects work for platforms you have abandoned, thereby proving your decision to abandon them was arbitrary and unnecessary.
I really don't see why it is such a big problem to create an original logo/name. @Matt A. Tobin is extending the olive branch, THEN SOME, and being flat out ignored.
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3 hours ago, Jody Thornton said:
I have to concede that was quite a kind gesture. For all I say against you, I'm VERY impressed. Yet oddly enough, I'm more of the same mindset as you are towards continued XP use. Nonetheless, it was a very kind gesture you made towards this crew. Cheers and Merry Christmas!
Many older devices lack support for eXecute Disable, which renders them incompatible with with newer versions of Windows. Only those who are fans of planned obsolescence, and landfills full of e-waste, would oppose an effort to keep old operating systems alive.
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1 hour ago, Sampei.Nihira said:
https://www.welivesecurity.com/2019/12/17/bluekeep-time-disconnect-rdp-internet/
Unfortunately, the tool does not work for me.
Does anyone have the same problem?
No go on my end with Windows XP 32 bit
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3 hours ago, win32 said:
While the stable version remains based on Chromium 69, a new build of the Chromium 78-based version (12.0.1010) has been released:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/1991554.html
I don't think we'll need it if Serpent "56-ish" comes to fruition though.
? Is someone working on porting Rust to XP?
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and vaguely reminds of H.P. Lovecraft 
Running Windows 98 in 2020 and beyond...
in Windows 9x/ME
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Hi, I just thought I'd point out that FF 52.9ESR requires the SSE2 instruction as well. Otherwise, accurate, to my knowledge.