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On 9/8/2019 at 9:41 AM, looking4awayout said:
After all this time, I'm finally happy to say that I have fixed the choppy framerate issue with ATI cards* on Mozilla based browsers (including @roytam1's) on resolutions above 800x600.
In order to have an almost NVidia-like smooth scrolling experience, you need to set these three parameters to True in about:config:
layers.enable-tiles - True
layers.tiles.adjust - True
devtools.performance.ui.enable-framerate - True (this one might be already set to True if you use the UOC Patch)
This dramatically improves the framerate if you use an ATI card, so if you have experienced choppy scrolling above 800x600, you might have to check out if setting these three values to True in the about:config, will bring some benefits to your system.
You might also have to tweak the framerate of your browser too, if you experience tearing. You can easily do that by editing the two values below:
layers.offmainthreadcomposition.frame-rate
layout.frame_rate
The UOC Patch sets them to 120, but you might get a better performance at 60 FPS or 240, or 480, your mileage might vary according to your system.
The sites that use their own scrolling routines, such as this forum, are still choppy unfortunately, but less than before.
*= DO NOT, and I say do not, attempt to enable tiles with NVidia cards. Or else you will get extremely choppy framerate, rendering your browser unusable unless you edit your prefs.js file to set them back to false. This tweak only works on ATI cards since NVidia cards already run smooth without additional tweaking.
EDIT: There is another extra value that you can set to True in order to get better scrolling performance. But it only works on Firefox 45 ESR SSE. I don't have a computer where I can test FF52 ESR based versions and beyond, so use this extra tweak below only on FF45 ESR SSE. Set the value below in this way:
layers.async-pan-zoom.enabled - True
DO NOT set this value to True in New Moon 27 and K-Meleon 76 Goanna, or else you will get unexpected 100% CPU spikes and the scrollbars will no longer be visible unless you revert the value to False. I do not guarantee that this extra value will work correctly on your system. If you notice worse performance with layers.async-pan-zoom.enabled, just leave it set to False as per default settings.
None of the about:config tweaks listed above improve performance at all for me, on my Radeon 9600 Pro.
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33 minutes ago, looking4awayout said:
That's cool. After enabling those tweaks I mentioned in the UOC Patch thread, now scrolling performance with the X1950 Pro is almost on par with NVidia cards, I think it might be even faster than Nvidia cards now. But it's also true I'm using an X1950 Pro. I wonder if a 9600/9800 Pro will get the same benefits.
Well, it can’t possibly get any worse. Interestingly enough, I get excellent HW acceleration on my Latitude 100L with a 2.66 GHz Pentium 4 mobile 2GB DDR, and Intel integrates graphics. It’s even faster with Quantum in Debian.
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4 minutes ago, looking4awayout said:
Great! I look forward to read if it improves scrolling on your system too, if I remember correctly your RDD uses an ATI card, am I right?
I have a plethora of ATI / Nvidia AGP cards that I fiddle around with. I've been using the Nvidia cards lately, due to the HW accel problem with ATI. I'll test it out on a Radeon 9600.
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54 minutes ago, looking4awayout said:
Just tested the latest test build of Firefox 45 ESR SSE. It runs much faster than the previous versions. While testing it, I also managed to finally fix the choppy scrolling issue that happens on Mozilla-based browsers above 800x600 if you use an ATI card. You can find the solution in the UOC Patch thread, check out Update II in the main post, or just check the link below:
It will also increase scrolling performance at lower resolutions. But remember, it only works with ATI cards. Nvidia cards don't have this issue.
Wow, great work! I'll be sure to give it a go later on, and report back.
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15 hours ago, roytam1 said:
OT: lol the guy go mad again when I copy/paste your news. https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=22241&p=174202#p174202
What an insufferable craphead. What is his deal?
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This has worked brilliantly for me on my Pentium iii LAtitude C810, and Athlon XP desktop! Why in the world do older Mozilla browsers have hardware accelerated web rendering disabled by default? It's a game changer!
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23 minutes ago, looking4awayout said:
I have tested the new versions of Firefox 45 ESR SSE, New Moon 27 and K-Meleon 76 Goanna on the RDD and they work much better than the previous ones. Unfortunately I've been noticing that the X1950 Pro seems to struggle at accelerating Mozilla based browsers beyond 800x600, while scrolling is perfectly fine with my 6800GT. But I suspect it's an ATI driver issue, rather than a browser one. And this with Catalyst 6.12, the fastest ones for the X1950 Pro. NVidia cards are much, much better for Mozilla based browsers.
I've found the same thing to be true. My lowly GeForce 6200 accelerates New Moon faster than my HD 2600 Pro does.
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Thanks for the SSE build of New Moon, Roytam! My Latitude C810 is back online
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This is probably a stupid question, but which browser should I be using for my day to day? Is BOC a replacement for New Moon?
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This would be amazing if someone were to get Discord working on XP!
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1 hour ago, Mathwiz said:
What do you two believe is the difference between anti-malware and anti-virus software? Malware is just "bad software you don't want on your PC," and a virus is a type of malware, is it not?
I chuckled at this
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51 minutes ago, roytam1 said:
Off-Topic: AMD Zen2 processors are released, and I'm planning new workstation/compilation machine with 3700X + B450 ATX + 32GB RAM + GTX1650(for cudnn) + 1 large&fast&reliable NVMe M.2 SSD (or 2 smaller).
What operating system will you use?
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10 hours ago, roytam1 said:
New build of BOC/UXP for XP!
Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rths.cf/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20190706-74a3674-uxp-a3ed49dde-xpmod.7z
Browser-only Suite Win32 https://o.rths.cf/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20190706-74a3674-uxp-a3ed49dde-xpmod.7zsource patch (excluding UXP): https://o.rths.cf/boc-uxp/boc-uxp-src-xpmod-20190223.7z
Official repo changes since my last build:
- [UXP] Update commit pointer (74a3674)For UXP changes please see above.
This is probably a stupid question, but when I'm setting up my account with MailNews, I don't see a field to enter my login password. Any idea's?
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9 hours ago, Dietmar said:
New acpi.sys I make
which works until now on any XP SP3.
AMD, Intel, new, old boards, all languages.
Please test test test and tell results
Dietmar
This is pretty neat. I don't have any newer hardware to test on, but I'm surprised more people haven't chimed in on this, yet.
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On 5/4/2019 at 9:19 AM, Sampei.Nihira said:
That's interesting. I wasn't aware a Seamonkey fork for XP existed. It is amazing to me that we have such a plethora of browser options, for an operating system that is 18 years old.
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So, if this update is so crucial, why exactly aren't they pushing these updates automatically? Last I checked, Windows update service still works on Windows XP.
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9 minutes ago, Mathwiz said:
Hmm - article mentions XP, Server 2003, Server 2008, Win 7, and Server 2008 R2 - what about Vista?
Perhaps Vista wasn't vulnerable?
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14 minutes ago, VistaLover said:
... And despite all recent incidents involving Mr. Matt A. Tobin and Moonchild Productions in general, there still exist people who post in the official Pale Moon forums questions related to Feodor2's MyPal and @roytam1's New Moon forks:
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=22110
These "people" are only doing a disservice to the XP and Vista communities benefiting from the continued existence of these forks and they must be stopped from continuing such an infantile and foolish behaviour; the only unwanted effect they'll cause is more aggravation for the MCP devs, more hostility towards the maintainers of the forks and their users!
Who in his/her right mind would go to the official Pale Moon community (devs+users) forum and query about third-party "unsupported" forks running on OSes that the mere mention of their names would cause those people to throw a hissy fit? Please, anyone here with a PM forum account (I know several exist) contact that @DJboutit individual and try to talk some sense into him/her
. We can't risk any additional animosity from the upstream devs !
This user is obviously a moron, but who cares? I assume Pale Moon is GPL'd, right? If so, they can't do anything about others forking, and redistributing their browser. Regardless of how annoyed they may be.Yeah, nevermind what I just said lol.
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I think I discovered why we have received a new update.
EDIT - I was wrong
This is why
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5 minutes ago, greenhillmaniac said:
If you would've told a costumer from 2001 that their purchase of Windows XP would get updates until 2019 they would not believe you!
Yet, here we are with a new patch out of the regular POSReady 2009 support window
I think it's a testament to what a great OS XP is. They're pushing updates, because people are still using it. An operating system from 2001 still has a market share of roughly 1.6%, is that not crazy?
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I don't really have any constructive criticism to offer, but I would like to give @roytam1 a big THANK YOU for your work on these browsers! You are appreciated!
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5 hours ago, luweitest said:
"IMO cellphone is not a proper platform for serious security and privacy."
I agree wholeheartedly. Unless, of course, you're using a non-smart phone.
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New Moon 28, and I'll be giving Interlink Mail News a try here shortly :D
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17 hours ago, Tangy said:
I have no intention whatsoever to ditch XP so soon. It serves all my needs nicely. I have been using it since july 2010 ( after my pc running win2k pro went kaput ) . In 2011, I got another pc win7 pro but I hardly use it. Actually my trouble and strife does but believe it or not she prefers my xp
. I would like to thank you all for your invaluable contribution and help.
Likewise, I've been using XP since roughly 2006, and I have no intention of giving it up any time soon. MS will have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
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. We can't risk any additional animosity from the upstream devs 
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. I would like to thank you all for your invaluable contribution and help.
Is Windows XP still relatively secure?
in Windows XP
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The title says it all. I'm wondering what the consensus is around here, in regards to how secure XP is as a daily driver, now that POSReady 2009 updates are finished. I've disabled remote desktop, enabled Windows firewall, enabled my routers firewall.. What are your thoughts? What can I do to lock XP down, security wise?