nose nugget... thanks for the link, but i saw that site and tried what it said a while ago. i've always thought it was my vid card (geforce 3 Ti 200, same as tom's) yet no matter what driver i try, be it default xp, the one that came with the card, or any of the "leaked" nvidia drivers, nothing ever seems to solve the problem. i'm seriously considering downgrading to win2k, but i would hate to lose all of my visual styles hehe sedative = eye candy junkie.