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If you go to https://github.com/xiaoxiaoflood/firefox-scripts/commits/master/, there's a <> button near each commit entry - Browse repository at this point. For easier browsing, you can filter by time period, there's a calendar in the upper-right corner.
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I thought so, those scripts need updates every couple of versions to continue working with Firefox. Git is version control system so you can go back to any point of the project's history, maybe it reaches the era of whatever version of Firefox Mypal is supposed to resemble these days.
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People are talking all over the place, some talk about decoding performance, some about sluggish UI. My main issue is with UI, but that V3 / PROJECT VORAPIS or whatever they call it addresses that pretty well. Still a bit slow on POS Lenovo.
11 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:You can take a VHS and copy it to DVD. That doesn't make it hi-def.
Don't play much games these days, not sure if they're all recorded/encoded like that, but it's incredible how blurry gameplay videos end up on YouTube.
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Mobile UI on desktop is horrible IMHO. If I want mobile version, I'll visit it on a smartphone, though I prefer the dedicated app there.
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I played with ViewTube script few times, not much since I don't really "need" it on my daily driver. Years ago I've read VP9 is supposed to be slightly better in quality, though these days I hear YouTube encodes worse in VP9...so since my CPU runs VP9 fine anyway and old GPU doesn't do VP9, HW decoding didn't seem as important.
I can't find that blog post where they were introducing VP9 and showing how it gets rids of some jaggies that were present on the same video encoded with H.264.
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Months or more than a year ago it was possible to force YouTube to use certain polyfills for Web Components that made its UI more responsive, basically pretending to be Firefox 42 and Pale Moon at the same time. Native Web Components implementation was supposed to make it faster, but TBH, I never noticed much difference between native and slower polyfills that were used as-is on YouTube then.
That POS Lenovo (the one with dual-core 1,35 GHz and 2 GB of RAM shared with GPU) always struggled with 720p@60 FPS on Mozilla based on Windows, the old pre-Chromium Edge was the best for video performance (though YT's GUI was sloooow). I haven't checked if that browser still works on YouTube.
Running XP may improve the number of simultaneously running tabs, if it can even be installed, the laptop is from 2014, so maybe after digging for drivers? But no accelerated video decoding in any browser, maybe pasting link in dedicated video player like PotPlayer still works if the module to work with YouTube can still be updated manually? Or ask VORAPIS guys to bring back Flash Player support.
Running older browser, even if just for YouTube seems like too much bother for me, even if it does work better.
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YouTube's interface can hide from this:
https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission
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3 hours ago, Slavich said:
When the page is fully loaded, the same thing happens. And on later versions of the NM28 as well.
Are you saying older versions of NM28 no longer get you the performance they used to? Also, is GPU acceleration working on your system? It's written on about:support page, should say Direct3D 9 in second row under Graphics in Windows XP if I recall correctly.
1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:I did try your beloved VORAPIS V3 and there are some pros to it. But there are also some cons. I used it for about an hour and ditched it, reverting to my own "tools". There is no "one size fits all" approach. Sorry, there just isn't.
Well, it should be almost like old YouTube, though you said you didn't really use it in the old days.
Actually, for me at least, I almost don't miss any exclusive script for stock YT, except Simple YouTube Age Restriction Bypass. I don't "need" it often, but it's handy.
1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:Adding VORAPIS (I use the TurboLauncher script via Greasemonkey) is likely the best it gets for NM28 and real POS computers.
While it's a good idea, I'd just like to add it wasn't formally released in that form that seems to actually work properly. Yes, the main script was released and available on https://vorapis.pages.dev/, but doesn't work properly as-is in Greasemonkey. They're planning the standalone extension, again, not formally released yet. Link to the post with the script again:
On an unrelated note, their (Project VORAPIS developers) primary communication channel is Discord. I don't "dig" Discord at all, it looks like a very messy medium for communication. It's completely unfit as a source for anything regarding a project like VORAPIS. Is that the level modern "gamers" have stomped down to? If they're even gamers, I just hear it's very popular among gamers.
Though we also have a giant thread for a bunch of web browsers here, which isn't a whole lot better either. But at least it's on a forum.
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23 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:
For some time now, your swan song to the UXP era can be read in each of your posts here.
Very inspiring and helpful. 
Does Rammstein's Adieu fit well when reading them?
I keep running into issues when slightly deviating from few select sites and it doesn't inspire positivity, even though I'm sure I'm one of the most positive people here when it comes to UXP. How many of you have financially contributed to development? I have, and it wasn't just a couple of bucks.
@Slavich
You should take that reading after YT's interface is fully loaded.1 -
On 10/9/2024 at 11:09 PM, VistaLover said:
Python coders of this era have no consideration at all
for backwards compatibility; they'd like to only code in Python 3.20, if they could get their hands on it now, supposedly because it makes their lives "easier"; with the official PSF stance being "we only support what Microsoft supports", this practically means that Python projects will soon ONLY run under Win[10/]11, on H/W compatible with these OSes only 
; to add insult to injury, with Win11 being 64-bit only, I have trouble already finding 32-bit compiles for many of the (open source) programs I want 
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Where I work, the software they do had support for pre-Win10 recently dropped along with 32-bit builds. The worlds of free open-source and proprietary commercial software alike have been rolling in 64-bit for a long time now. I mean, AMD Opteron was released in 2003. What kind of support did you get for Apple II in 2001, hm?
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I updated to the new Pale Moon 33.4.0.1 with the new ghostbuster and I can't say it really helps with the smoothness, it's a lag city soon after a bit of YouTubing and GitHubbing, even after closing them. So UXP browsers remain more of a masochist endeavor, a nostalgia trip to an era long gone. While with Firefox, it's as simple as sudo apt install firefox, install uBO and things are silky smooth, YouTube, GitHub, ImgUr, whatever.
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Cute Buttons seems to have slightly lower impact on the browser UI on Linux build. At least the delay switching tabs isn't any higher than without its CSS loaded.
One bug in the old Reddit Enhancement Suite, Never Ending Reddit module craps out on some subreddits and fails loading new pages. Since it disables the button to go to the next page manually, you basically have to turn the module off for the warranty to be able to navigate to the next page anywhere.
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I only ever got human captcha with older browsers, never the message about updating the browser.
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https://sourceforge.net/ doesn't show captcha on Firefox 131 here either. If there weren't mixed results with not latest versions, I'd say it's sensitive to older browser versions.
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No captcha with Edge 129 at workplace.
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There's no workaround this time around, even the kernel of WinPE used by setup environment wants instructions my CPU doesn't have. Looks like initially, support for POPCNT was enough, but that requirement was later expanded to full blown SSE 4.2 instruction set.
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1 hour ago, Saxon said:
What does your "variations" string tells?
chrome://version/
Can't tell as I don't use full browser app so that page is non-existent, but the one depending on WebView, so it would be whatever is default for Chromium WebView component on Android. It's the only way I'm aware of to keep resource usage down, OS already takes more than half RAM, have mere 1 GB of RAM to play with.
The most you see is this through hidden DevTools.
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I can fantasize.
But I realize technical complexities in potential all-in-one browser.
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Another evening, just wandering at random, downloaded Win11 24H2 ISO just to see how far it goes. Attempted to boot the ISO in a virtual machine, saw Windows logo for a short while and then:
So that's what it feels like to be swooped to the land of the deprecated and unsupported.
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16 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:
Or you try to bring them back to life.
That would require becoming full time unpaid programmer. There's no equivalent of latest uBO, Stylus, Tampermonkey, no ImprovedTube for YouTube, no up-to date Reddit Enhancement Suite, someone on PM forum brought up Scratch Addons etc.
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On 10/3/2024 at 11:56 AM, NotHereToPlayGames said:
many/most extensions pertinent to UXP Era are no longer maintained.
I'd say UXP era never really took off, what you're referencing was golden Mozilla era. You could say the extensions dealing with web pages are severely lacking and I'd argue they're the most important ones considering the point of the web browser is to access web content.
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Among the installed browsers on PC, I have the easiest time passing with Pale Moon 33.3.1 or SeaMonkey 2.53.17 (this one is two versions behind), doesn't show captcha at all. The rest are all old Firefox 110 or Chromium 117/94. I have to click the checkbox for being human, then it passes. Chromium 119 on my smartphone took more than 3 attempts to be able to pass, but it did in the end. Last time I wrote 117, but 119 is correct and also the final one for Android 7.
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The real question is, why Windows still doesn't interpret Real Time Clock as Universal Time by default? RealTimeIsUniversal=1 is the best registry hack I found in years.
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Mypal 68 in Windows XP - Custom Buttons and Extensions
in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
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Yes, that works on Firefox. But Mypal 68 != Firefox or is some conglomeration of old Firefox versions. Maybe older scripts work, maybe not.