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19 hours ago, XPerceniol said:On 1/6/2024 at 12:31 AM, roytam1 said:
...Tighten default script time-outs and expose stop_slow_scripts (0bcbbafa73)
I DO hope this makes a positive difference for us using NM28!
I doubt it, AFAIK this is the time takes the browser to snap out when it gets stuck running a script and from user's POV, freezes in the process. Moonchild may not believe in Speedometer, which is indeed a boring benchmark, but nevertheless, the fact remains that JavaScript engine is SLOOOOOOW.
Source: Working with client-rendered web app that makes me money.
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Even though I grew up with 95 (and later XP), can't say I really miss them today.
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I ran Windows 95 on a PC with a 133 MHz Pentium and 16 MB of RAM.
Though good luck trying it on 1987 computer.
https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19950924&slug=2143253
Kids today have no clue that have only experienced Win95 on a virtual machine at best, where it installs in seconds and generally feels different than on a real period-correct computer. There was a charm in waiting and seeing the animation and switching between that and text screen during boot sequence.
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I got Task Manager to lock up, consuming over 1,5 GB of RAM and making the system totally unresponsive. Was testing an old InstallShield installer, I basically left Task Manager's dialog that opens after you do "Analyze wait chain" open.
Another random observation in one of the legacy components, Vista totally broke scripting functionality of DirectMusic, observable in the old Unreal II: The Awakening game, they say relevant functions are stubbed, there seems to be something extra wrong in Win11 implementation, which makes even less sense. In Drakan: Order of the Flame, specific music tracks don't play. This one doesn't use scripting (handled by dmscript.dll). No idea what's supposed to be different with the various tracks. But dmusic.dll from Windows XP still seems to function correctly, even on Windows 11. Probably dmscript.dll too, but haven't tried.
DirectMusic was deemed deprecated with Vista, though at least some changes that relevant DLLs contain is anyone's guess. It's curious at least since they didn't throw out DirectMusic completely like they did with some other deprecated components.
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6 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:
No bank account web site should be loading FACEBOOK script files, for example.
12 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:I use full hibernate and not the hybrid sleep that newer OSs use as default.
Technically, as far as I'm aware, hybrid shutdown is just logoff and hibernate. You could always log off manually in older OS if you wanted.
One potential long term issue with hibernating/sleeping, OS bugs and/or driver bugs causing memory leaks. Don't know if it's just me, but that monstrosity that is Win11, non-paged memory pool usage seems to hold more steadily than on old Win10 install. The only notable difference between the old install, that I'll keep anyway as Win11 is just annoying in other aspects, no VMware or VirtualBox loaded. These things have their own drivers loaded in the background to be able to function at all.
Even though I'm personally also guilty of complaining about software at times and sounding like a spoiled brat, on the other hand, you have to be amazed these things work at all, given the complexity.
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Previously, I wasn't exactly aware uBlock can also inject JavaScript into sites. I see it has stubbed Google Analytics APIs in place, but not those for VideoJS IMA plugin, I guess that would be required for sites like https://www.24ur.com/. Right now, this rule works with Modify HTTP Response extension for it (mind that this is very site specific):
["www.24ur.com",["/assets/build/main-SACIHEUG.js",["this.showBanners(i)?","0?"]]]
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Regarding Windows 11, no older Windows version had the kind hardware checks in place like they put them in Windows 11. No secure boot? You're out! No TPM? You're out! Maybe they relaxed at least some of them, didn't check thoroughly. But it does load slower on my machine, uses more memory, even Explorer opens folders with delay (maybe I'd have to check without augmentations in place).
Then the settings GUI preaches about eco friendliness, also noticed they cut default timeouts for sleep/screen off in half (balanced power plan at least).
On the other hand, Windows XP is also bloated when pinned next to Windows 95.
There's also this consistent pattern of people whining for each new Windows release, then they get used to it and suddenly it's good then next version is horrible again and the cycle repeats.
Another edit: I personally stopped worrying about load times years ago, as long as it's OKish afterwards.
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3 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:
That's nothing. Not even 100 KB for a single JavaScript file? These things are in megabytes in modern web apps.
Edit: OK, you'd have to add them all together, but still, MSFN never made an old school browser like Pale Moon lock up in my experience. phpBB is better if you want lightweight. But phpBB is obviously less functional, have you seen it popup notification live?
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1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:
Regarding "heavy JavaScript" - how does one define "heavy"? Because MSFN loads fourty seven (Proxomitron counts them more accurately than things like uMatrix or uBO)!!! And that to me has always looked "heavy".
But do you read about people having hard time using MSFN on under-resourced hardware from 2007 or so? I don't, but I've read complaints over stuff like Discord or even your hacked 360Chrome builds. The word "Discord" does bring over 300 results if you just search this forum for it.
2 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:I've only ever "heard" of Discord by people here at MSFN. Other than "hearing" people throw out the word "Discord", I for one personally have NO CLUE what it is.
I don't remember when I've read the word first, though I've already read about it at least 6 years ago on a fan forum for an old obscure game. Today its admin tells me everyone's on Discord. Bro, I'm not on Discord. Hardly worth the bother, even what little I participate here is more for passing time than meaningful discussions, LOL.
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Though regardless of the OS, we have to get by what others have already programmed. And honestly, maybe we should all admit that we may be too picky sometimes.
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On 1/4/2024 at 5:13 PM, XPerceniol said:
Sorry guys, yeah right, like anybody is reading anyway hahahaha
I have.
Yeah, try to make the best of the time here is most we can try. Another decade is behind me as well, it's weird.
Not much else comes to my mind to say right now, but looking forward to a quiet weekend.
Oh, yeah, don't like what little I hear on TV, it's mad. No idea where this world is going.
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On 1/2/2024 at 10:35 AM, NotHereToPlayGames said:
I was running XP 100%, I didn't have a "tablet" or "mobile phone" to run to when I couldn't achieve a task on XP.
Guess that was easier if you only needed a newer Chrome to get something done.
Even though I run Win10 for generally better support for stuff and some specific niceties, guess I'm still oldschool in other regards (besides augmenting Win10 for more, but not totally classic experience). Like why the hell should I bother with Discord for instance? It's been a while since I first detected the hint at some places where people were apparently leaving conventional communication platforms for Discord. Maybe if you're really social, you don't care. But I just don't like the idea of using some heavy JavaScript recent Chrome requiring monstrosity in place of a conventional (search engine indexable!) forum.
On 1/1/2024 at 2:45 PM, NojusK said:Corporations don't really care about saving the planet, it's all about the money, always been, so it's no surprise.
Meh, the entire world revolves around money. It is what it is.
On 1/1/2024 at 2:45 PM, NojusK said:Maybe Linux Distros will grow in popularity again?
Haven't they always been a niche? People are either used to Windows or run whatever came with their computer, which is often Windows.
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Current YouTube filters use builtin scriptlet trusted-replace-xhr-response, implemented sometime in 2023 (https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/2743). There's also trusted-replace-fetch-response. Utility functions may be provided by extension itself (/assets/resources/scriptlets.js in current versions), other utility functions may be part of resources at /assets/ublock/resources.txt (in the old version).
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Fresh install of uBlock Origin in Serpent 52 running on XP x64:
If I recall correctly, the old one shows some entries of type dom in the logger when it skips ads. Think I didn't see them with a new one.
1 hour ago, nicolaasjan said:On Linux (native) and Windows 7 and 10 (VM's) I use the excellent MPV media player.
Multimedia in virtual machines? Yikes!
On somewhat unrelated performance note, my machine almost manages plain 4K @ 25FPS in a browser (30 drops frames constantly).
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That's related to how CAA shows extensions. You could throw out max version check:
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It predates that Frankenstein UI that is Australis.
Edit: Never mind, should work on Serpent 52, at least does on clean profile.
7 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:You presumably have to adjust the maxVersion inside the install.rdf file.
maxVersion is enforced only when strictCompatibility is enabled.
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Right now, I can't as it seems they don't play them every time. But uBlock with all default settings may still break the video player.
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That was actually the first time I used it. Unsure if you can filter hosts/files/content as well as with Proxomitron, but Proxomitron's future looks bleak if it can't be trusted to reliably load web pages as-is.
In any case, I don't see myself using such tools often as is, regular expressions give me headache. Fortunately, I feel the need to use them very rarely.
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14 hours ago, mina7601 said:
Hi.
I assume you meant the LAV codecs? They are in the first page of this thread.
Here are the links:32bit LAV dlls are in separated package (extracted from K-Lite codec pack 13.5.5)
https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/lav.7z32bit NoSSE (ffmpeg 3.1.1 lite build)
https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/lav-dll-lite-mmx.7z32bit No ASM (ffmpeg 3.1.1 lite build, if build above doesn't work on your processor)
https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/lav-dll-lite-noasm.7zChoose one of these links, depending on your processor. The first link has 3 files inside, and the other 2 links have 2 files inside.
In case you have K-Lite Codec Pack installed, these shouldn't be needed in the absence of special requirements (no SSE and such).
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9 hours ago, Mathwiz said:
I don't think that's it - the above resource doesn't exist, yet "uBlock filters - ads" loads without error in uBO 1.54 (in Edge 109).
That's what I assumed as I don't remember seeing any other network request failing. But it fails on Edge too and that doesn't cause exclamation mark there. Version differences?
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Show me an extension that can disable video ads on its own on https://www.24ur.com/ without breaking the player, eg. https://www.24ur.com/novice/tujina/obstreljevanje-z-verzi-ukrajinski-in-ruski-vojaki-prepevali-katjuso.html. Funny how easily these content / ad blockers can be defeated if you're just a little bit creative.
Hint: You have to defuse one function in the site's main JavaScript file.
Edit: Chaining IMA SDK Plugin like that is quite effective as the ad blocker will break the player, user will turn it off the ad blocker, see that playback works and blame the ad blocker.
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OK, can confirm the ad comes through on the linked video. Should've checked more videos. Doesn't come through on Edge with uBlock 1.54 with default settings.
AFAIK, new uBlock supports extended filter syntax. Unless the old uBlock was updated to understand it, it could be that some rules on updated lists are simply ignored (best case scenario I assume).
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Well that guy tried it.
Likewise. Several years ago I still had two newer ones, the one with 233 MHz Pentium and another with 2 GHz Celeron, the latter had no working disk. They would probably still be collecting dust in the basement if we didn't move, they were disposed at that point. Some random stuff from old computers is still there.
I figured mandatory ever work day 8 hours at the screen isn't exactly fun...
Back on topic, found this: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/humans-suck-even-worse-thought-143339941.html