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Thanks. It seems that is locked behind some classic big companies machine support / maintenance fee Paywall not just some MSDN MS partnership or OS licence. IBM / DELL / HP were big enough to sell it, maybe others. Yeah this text is clear: Windows 2000 Datacenter Server — update to SP4 only in conjunction with your OEM Some per vendor mumbo jumbo is needed probably like 1 more key in registry as is typical in these situations. There is dedicated MS Windows 2000 data center page: http://microsoft.com/windows2000/datacenter/default.asp I have tried procmon, first time i got bluescreen, but later i have find its old versions (1.0.0. to 3.0.3 worked) here: https://web.archive.org/web/20071011001855/http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/processmonitor.mspx a they worked, but maybe bluescreen was not related to its version. I at least learned how to better work with its output. filter it.. i expected that it would more clear and it would collect only data per selected per process, but it seems that by default its collecting everything like Filemon and Regmon and its merged together. Here is filter report, i did not find exact call.. by my money are not something in these 2 keys, where are details about OS type: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\ProductOptions HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion Here is filtered procmon log, its from install execution start to click to confirmation error message, i filtered it down to like 150 lines: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ug6frpi7lqcqpfhbh2ll2/SP4-InstallProcMonLog.PML?rlkey=i18n1xdbb0troxqgdooxf2l2t&dl=0 Its interesting that i can install other OS updates fine, just not service packs. It seems that only main advantage of Data Center is more RAM and cpus (i dunno how cores and SMP count for Win 2000..), with PAE (just through adding /pae to boot.ini was needed no hal fiddling) i have 10 GB of RAM.. 2nd highest edition Advanced server should be limited to 8 GB, Datacenter to 32GB or 64 GB, 32GB is mentioned online, 64 GB in IBM manual linked above.. maybe its 64 GB for the whole cluster, im not sure, how it works. In these days, would only make sense to solve this, because some retro computing preservation, to preserve highest possible version. As i wrote install SP4 right away is working, but someone could be interested to check original SP1 version and test and check newer SP, one by one.. and that is not possible.. doubt that someone will still pay some maintenance fee for 20-15 years old machines.. its not just support per platinum Dell account globally.. Other use case when someone could hit this problem is very old server migration to virtual machine. In case of Windows 2000 i found out that there is a lot programs requiring SP4 to work, i mean much more than SP2 / SP3 for Windows XP or SP1 for WIndows 7. Workaround is upgrade server before migration, i guess that nobody would run updated server anyway.. Its sort of like TPM check for Win11..
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Yeah i should give it a bit more of effort and make screenshot, i hoped that is known problem I meanwhile i have tried to install clean with custom CD image of Datacenter SP4 from Archive.org it worked fine with original system key.. Luckily when i run SP4 again message is still there, this is exact text: The Service pack 4 (2,3 etc..) not been qualified by your hardware vendor for installation on this copy of Windows 2000 Datacenter Server. Please contact your hardware vendor for additional information on obtaining a Service pack 4 that has been qualified for your system configuration. But i would still like to know there was a problem and if its possible install SP4 somehow, or upgrade / downgrade Windows 2000 version or install SP from live system. Its possible for XP+ I researched a bit more research and it seems that datacenter really was somehow special, because Windows legacy update and update restored both report Datacenter as unsupported.. with note with a link to manually download updates, there is internet wayback machine link to Microsoft page, where i can download sometime, problem is that exact download files aren't archived I also do not understand how PAE is working with Windows 2000, Advanced server and Datacenter are supposed to support PAE. more than 3-4 GB of ram, im stuck at 3.5 GB.. its probably needed to fiddle with HAL files somehow. Because more CPUS and RAM support should be a main Datacenter advantage. Update: It seems that PAE needs to be still enabled manually by boot.ini edit: https://webhostinggeeks.com/howto/how-to-enable-pae-in-x86-32-bit-windows-server-2003-and-2000-to-use-more-than-4gb-ram/#:~:text=To enable PAE in Windows,The Boot. I checked Dell CDs too, there is indeed OS install assist, problem is that it support only raid drives during OS install process are all data on raid deleted.. so i dont not tried it now, maybe later i will try with another empty disk. There are also some Windows 2000 SP4 Dell flavor OEM cds on archive.org, so maybe you needed one of these.. still would be nice to be able to bypass vendor check, i have tried Regmon and Filemon to detect what is checked, but i never get enough skill to be able to filter their output to debug these things..
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I got some old company Dell 1950 server for experiments, it came with Windows 2000 Datacenter SP1 installed. As far as i understand Datacenter is some uber special version of Win 2000, it was released with SP1. I have tried to install SP2 / SP3 / SP4, but it always fails, if get message its some about unsupported version. When i run Datacenter cd with newer service pack im getting message: that this vendor HW is not supported. Is there way how to bypass it this check? I tried to google it, but not found anything usable. I never was big friend of server vendor zillion cds images joggling and their OS install assists, but maybe you have to use some utility like it for this. I would understand if i would have same problem with random virtual machine or generic PC, there should be some Dell service tag in the bios and SP1 reinstall run fine from bundled cd, i tried generic version from archive org and its the same, so its not key etc problem. BTW its possible downgrade Windows 2000 server version without reinstall?
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Its 16 years i know, i found the last update from 2016, and release from 2011: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/win2kgaming/oldcigarettes-windows-2000-xp-api-wrapper-pack-ocw-t7.html There is mentioned v11, on BlackWingCat side is v10. I was always searched for universal tool to fake selected programs to thing that are running on different Windows version, so far it did not found it, it should be much simpler than adding missing kernel functions etc.. I found only some registry hacks to fool whole OS version, which is quite dangerous. Dos had some faking old MS-DOS version number inbuild too, in like MS-DOS 6+ or so. I would love to fake Windows NT4 to Windows98, because there are lots of programs/games which just refuse to install on NT.. but if you install them on Windows 9x and copy files to Windows NT machine, they are actually running fine. Other solutions of similar problems is just editing to *.msi installers through tool like - https://www.masterpackager.com, to lower required msi installer version or other artificial requirements which could prove as unnecessary.
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Keyboard not detected at repair and install
ruthan replied to sethdm02's topic in Windows 2000/2003/NT4
I hit the same problem with Dell Poweredge 1950 server, no PS/2 ports, no USB settings it the Bios. Could additional USB controller help, which one si the most compatible? Unattended install has small problem, im afraid that they is probably no way how to select partition on Win2000 should be installed.. I have tried also Ventoy USB instead of direct USB install, but on this machine, its allways blue screening, step further. It really looks like some fixable bug, that for F6 is keyboard working fine, but not after Sort of give up way is install Windows 2000 on the other machine or virtual and restore image on the target machine and use some P2P - physical to physical adjusted, in case, when its not booting.. I have the best experience with Paragon tools for P2P.. I checked all of these PS/2 PCI/ PCI-e cards, you look at close, there is everytime some fine print about not supported by BIOS.. and you can find some USB chip on these cards, which means that you need USB driver to make it working.. So its not solution for such problem. I wonder some machines still have COm - serial ports, long time ago we used serial mice.. maybe, maybe someone did some keyboard for serial port, some servers, have keyboard with serials ports.. but i never was familiar with it, if working for bioses etc.. Update: At least SP2 is working with back USB ports, im using Lenovo keyboard, but its probably does not matter, all floppy has to be at the back port, even when F6 phase it working on the front port. I have tried additional PCI-E USB2 controller with MOS chip, but it does not worked. -
Last Version of Programs for Windows NT 4.0
ruthan replied to Leokids123's topic in Windows 2000/2003/NT4
So earlier version than 4.62 are proven to work on Win98 fine? Or you did not tested them? -
Last Version of Programs for Windows NT 4.0
ruthan replied to Leokids123's topic in Windows 2000/2003/NT4
I tried much newer 9.xx, 21.xx they are running fine, except drag and drop. -
Last Version of Programs for Windows NT 4.0
ruthan replied to Leokids123's topic in Windows 2000/2003/NT4
Is therre version of 7Zip where drag and drop is working on NT4? Im used too use it and lot.. to extract files but draging them out of 7zip folder.. -
Hi, im trying keep my drive letters settings in NT4. I have 1 SCSI disk (4 partitions) and 1 PATA disk (3 partitions). Im using Disk Administrator utility, im use to change drive letter on the fly, but returning back to old settings after reboot. In the past it usually stayed set to right settings, few it broke again, but now its breaking every boot. Now i installed Universal ATA drive, i may cause this problem, but i doubt it. I have tried to use Paragon and Acronis partitions managers too, but its the same. On Windows 2000+ i could change drive letter under registry path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices I found only this: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Disk There are optical drivers only. I have tried to find drivers letter like E: and F: but again i found only optical drivers, maybe its in NT4 settings outside of registry. On Windows 98, i used to use Letter assigner, but its not working on NT and so far i did not find similar utility working on NT4 Some hint, which registry keyword to search to find this settings would be great.
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Any idea how to bypass need for reboot to reinstall sound drivers? It would be nice workaround, to same me reboots and i can auto uninstall / install drivers at system start up.. I tried to search for Reboot registry key, i would some with some strange ABCD-EFXX-XXX format set 0 under some Creative Tech path, i set it to 1 but it wasnt right one.
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Thanks, i actually searched through Wayback machine, but it not know name of their original web size, i looked correct there wasnt yet suite - all tools collection back in 2005? Still if you have some per OS packs distribute what you can? If not program Sysinternals suite was available and still just not too old version on all freeware download servers. Do i understand correctly that Sysinternals was free pack and Wininternals was for commercial products (i dont need these)?
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Has someone whole win9x sysinternals suite filtered for Windows 9x or NT to upload for download? If not afanite its license rules? Because download old versions and make it through all info in this thread would take hours or maybe days? Is somewhere some package of pre 2006 Microsoft acquisition of company?
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Last Version of Programs for Windows NT 4.0
ruthan replied to Leokids123's topic in Windows 2000/2003/NT4
Is there some FPScounter compatible with Windows NT4, or at least some tool to identify if game is running in early Direct3D or use software DirectDraw rendering? Maybe it could be detected by some Direct3D supporting process. For OpenGL and GLide its usually antialing enough to recognize that 3D is running for early Direct3D like 3 or 5 games im not so sure, because some games looks sort of 3D accelerated. Some games prints which 3D API is used in some ingame setup or have executable per API, but some dont. Also there is not often Readme or other info and info which games are using which api on pcgamingwiki: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_Direct3D_2-7_games is related to full version of games not demos, sometimes 3D API option was added through post release patches. Also some Glide wrapper for NT which are using OpenGL as output would be very nice.