Thanks for the lead w jaclaz, Grub 4.4 works well with Presario. It even auto finds windows 98 and loads it. After that test I went back and used the command line. Found everything on (Hd0), and was able to load it off that. I went back and checked in fdsik to make sure the primary partition was set to primary and active, and it is. Thanks Deomsh, I did try SYS C: but had no luck with that. So my next question is what is the next step I need to take to get it to boot on its own with out grub. I've look throw grub with it help but havn't tried to make any changes yet.