NoelC

>when upgrade occurred, 1607, adobe suite did not work well How long will holding back on 1511 keep? 3 or 4 months is all Microsoft seems to think you'll need (e.g., by the delay you can dial in). If not - and what's the guarantee that all the problems will be worked out in a few months - then what? Go "off reservation" and continue running an intermediate Windows 10 version for as long as Microsoft allows it? Yes, you can stop updates, but what is the use of that? Settle for a lesser operating system only to stop updating it? Why not just not start with Win 10 in the first place. This is precisely the reason that when it comes to using Win 10 for serious stuff (e.g., creating content with the Adobe suite) the only winning move is not to play. Who in Microsoft said it's good and proper to release a new operating system every half a year? That's just ridiculous! -Noel

Do you even have GWX? If so how did it get in? We've been talking on this site about blocking the updates that brought it in since some time back in 2015 as I recall. You could search your whole system for any file that has GWX in the name. My Win 7 setup looks like this: -Noel

Thanks for checking. That's good feedback. It tends to make me think even more that it could have to do with one of the things I do that are fairly far off the reservation, e.g., Disable Windows Update service. Disable Windows Firewall service (I have the 3rd party Sphinx firewall). Disable a number of other services I don't believe I need. Remove all Apps including Cortana. Run with UAC disabled. Use a local account. A dozen other significant tweaks to try to undo most of what's "Modern" in Windows 10. Thing is, this is no more than an annoyance as everything works. I just don't understand what's starting SystemSettings then almost immediately having it go to Suspended status. -Noel

In all seriousness, I still show the IE status bar. When I hover over a link, in the status bar appears the URL. Some of the links show a URL which ends with .7z, so clearly the file is meant to be downloaded and opened as a file with a .7z extension, which I know from experience to be a compressed archive openable by the 7Zip file manager. The root cause of the problem, why the right thing doesn't happen automatically (based on my own experience with web hosting and browsing) is that the mime type isn't being provided correctly by Big Muscle's web site. That's metadata that comes along with the download. He can probably fix it by including something like the following line in an .htaccess file at the root of his web site: AddType application/octet-stream .7z -Noel

Thanks, you're right. Post edited. I presume Big Muscle would choose exactly the right wording. -Noel

You can download files from Big Muscle's www.glass8.eu site with Internet Explorer IF you do NOT left-click the link, but instead do exactly the following: 1. Right-click the link to get the context menu. 2. Save Target As, change the extension to .7z, and save the file to your disk. 3. Once the file is completely downloaded to your disk, open it with 7Zip. -Noel

Does any newer version of Office actually do anything useful as compared to the older versions? I had Office 365 for a while (I believe it was closest to Office 2013 at the time) and later dropped back to 2010. The 2010 version was actually more functional, and was the last version to embrace the desktop theme. I haven't found a reason to want anything newer. -Noel

Heh heh heh. I figured he probably has sufficient skills to work through a 1.5.0.669 upgrade since he actually made the move from 1.4.5 to 1.4.6. By the way, you can probably lower the level of miscues some by adding the Windows build numbers to your thread titles. E.g., "Aero Glass for Win 8.1+ 1.4.6 for Win 8.1 and 10 builds up through 10586" and "Experimental Aero Glass Builds for Win 10 build 14393" In this day and age of "information overload" people often fail to read enough to fully understand things because there's just so much to worry about to survive every day that the mind can never rest. They necessarily try to limit the amount of stress on their minds whenever they can. I think of it as "the age of distracted living". It starts in childhood and breeds adults who have difficulty focusing. And - as we've seen - it is becoming ever more socially unacceptable to ask people to think first, ask questions later. On the subject of this thread, I've dropped back to 1.4.5.520 because that version was perfectly stable and I can't tolerate any errors on my main Win 8.1 work desktop. It didn't crash, but even small occasional visual screen glitches are distracting and I have to limit the stress on my mind... -Noel

I see it on 14393 (all patch levels so far) and I'm pretty sure it was happening in 10586 as well, though it wasn't as obvious since I didn't have an Aero Glass ModernFrame debug console window start whenever ApplicationFrameHost ran. -Noel

Right, 1.4.6 is NOT for Windows 10 build 14393. You want to look in the Experimental builds thread instead. -Noel

Your not having those processes auto-start may say that something I've configured (or DEconfigured) has caused Windows to enter some kind of restorative process. It could, for example, have something to do with the Security Center, which if you don't tell it to avoid doing so does pop things up some minutes after login. I have to leave the system completely alone for 5 minutes at least. If I even move the mouse a little the processes don't start. -Noel

Doesn't the same thing happen if you just disable all the specific scheduled jobs that do things you don't want? There ARE actually things I want to run in the background from Task Scheduler. I use it myself for some things. -Noel

Hi aviv00, what do you mean by "task scheduler running as ghost"? Can you please be a little more specific? -Noel

Oops, yesterday I posted that 1.4.6 has been flawless, but in the evening I closed a window on my right monitor and a few hundred pixels of the left side of a VMware window on my center monitor disappeared (in their place I saw the background image). Moving the cursor over the window caused it to reappear. If it happens again I'll get a photo of the screen before correcting it. I suspect if I do a screen grab it'll self-correct as well. I never saw this behavior with 1.4.5 in a long time of use. Nor does it happen reproducibly on 1.4.6. Edit: Managed a screen-grab. Note the rectangle of "see through" pixels near the top of Internet Explorer. That was flickering on and off when I moved the mouse over the IE window. -Noel

Gene, I'm sorry you feel that way. Everyone has their limits, and you have no idea what's going on in my life right now (nor I yours). I will take your input at face value and try harder to be a "decent person". Rather than lash out at me, I have a suggestion: Create a "Soup To Nuts How To" instruction set in a separate thread that will clearly spell out every step of the process of getting Aero Glass to work, in layman's terms, that anyone can follow. Ask for comments/input from others, figure out what they mean, and adjust your instructions accordingly. If you'd rather, I won't say a thing in that thread. Turn this into something positive. -Noel

And store the data in an .ini file! I like it! -Noel

Tip o the hat to you, Zod, for not needing to ask 20 questions to get it done. For what it's worth, a change of version can actually all be accomplished, if care is taken, without rebooting at all. You need only stop the Aerohost executable (via the scheduler), then kill DWM.exe, which will restart the desktop without Aero Glass. Then you can overwrite the files, and finally restart Aerohost. -Noel

I'm not. I'm taking ownership and setting permissions to allow me to access things. However, there ARE some things it's fighting me over. When I've needed to become SYSTEM I've run psexec -i -s CMD to get a privileged cmd window. I'll check into Joakim's tools. Thanks for the tip. -Noel

Not quite, I think ApplicationFrameHost is just responsible for making a space on the desktop for the Metro application to show itself over, and automatically starts when any App is run. What I think is happening is that there's a list - though I'll be darned if I know where - of DCOM servers to be automatically started by the system. I'm imagining that manipulating said list to not contain SystemSettings.exe will fix the entire problem. "We'll need a search running..." -Noel

That's been long gone for a while now, and I haven't noticed any attempts to communicate associated with. But thanks very much for the idea. I think it's as deconfigured as it can be, but if you can think of places I could look for remnants of Settings Sync, I'll certainly double-check. -Noel

Lack of information implies lack of care. It's up to you, not the people who read your posts, to show otherwise. -Noel

Please describe "here". On what Windows version are you testing? What version of Aero Glass? Your sig says "OS: Windows 8 x64". That's not pertinent to this thread. This one is about new development for Windows 10 build 14393 (Big Muscle, you might want to include that info in the thread subject). Please see this other thread for info about the latest Win 8 and Win 10 build 10586 and older development: -Noel

Microsoft's symbol servers always seem to be flaky. I think it must just be an overload situation with all the developers (and software like Big Muscle's) attempting to download new symbols after an OS update. I wonder what kind of computer the symbol server is... One could write a small script based on the Microsoft SDK tool SYMCHK that would run in the background and persist until all the needed symbols are retrieved. -Noel

How DARE you assume a user knows what a "registry" is and how the above snippet has anything to do with it. You need to provide a complete tutorial on registry editing, not to mention a note on what hex vs. decimal is - and what the heck is this Alpha thing you mention? A dog from a Pixar flick? How do you "apply"? What does "argb" mean? In all seriousness, people asking for help need to put in at least some basic effort. If not willing to do that, don't post in this thread at all. Make a new thread, just for you! Think I'm being abrasive? From the original post in this thread: If I were a mod I'd move the entire last 3 or 4 pages of drivel into a separate "Help me" thread. -Noel

Did you consider setting GlassOpacity to a lower value? Hex 55 aka decimal 85 means 85% opaque. What value do you think might make the title bars less opaque? Do you not remember seeing the GlassOpacity value I posted, extracted from my settings? -Noel