Just a scientific wild-assed guess, but I'd say that's a component Old New Explorer has added to your system. Personally I'd suggest never running anything with "cleaner" in the name. -Noel Not the amswer I was looking for but thanks anyway. ===>>>>>- ONE now is registered as BHO to load into explorer earlier Would be good if there was an option to view what default resources are used/loaded when any window,dialog/ue is opened ,we used ResSpy in win 7 to trace many things this way,saves a lot of time,just a thought for the future. -Dave