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It’s scary how especially Microsoft was able to mold the summer of worms and their security problems to their own advantage. “You have to accept every shit we do and every privacy intrusion, or else we cut you off from the security patches and then THE EVIL HACKERS. THE HACKERS WILL COME” Who knew that the worm authors, script kiddies and hackers “fighting the system” helped to establish the system at the end.

So the forced upgrade bricked their PCs? Where's the fucking shitstorm? Scary how docile people became. In the 90s and 2000s tech-shitstorms appeared for far less (remember the Pentium III serial number fuss or Vista's "DRM"?) Everything changed this decade.

That was a "test-run". http://www.infoworld.com/article/2994117/microsoft-windows/microsoft-accidentally-upgrades-win7-and-81-pcs-to-windows-10.html

I am pretty sure there won't be a roll-back to W7 option. They would rather force non-disabable ads on you if you keep W10 unpaid.

I suspect that, free or not, the nags will continue forever. Do you mean, even if W10 will becomes a paid-upgrade, the nags will continue? Windows 10 installs automatically and then asks immediately for a credit-card or it deactivates itself. That's so crazy, it would fit NuMicrosoft perfectly.

By the way, does anyone believe in their fairy-tale that Windows 10 won't be a free upgrade for 7 and 8.1 users in july 2016 anymore and thus these nags will stop? No way.

Not exactly. GWX and stuff shows the "reserve your upgrade"-screen and the related icon in the taskbar. The new approach will download Windows 10 automatically, apparently do some pre-processing and asks you just before it finally upgrades for a prompt. No more reservation stuff. I am pretty sure those prompts will have some some "bugs" from time to time which will cause the abort-button to magically disappear. And without any doubt, this upgrade will re-appear every month on Windows Update when you hide it.

And yet again: http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/10/29/making-it-easier-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/

Only a matter of time until a forced Windows update comes and changes your wallpaper to this.

Some reasons: 1. Company-wide attention deficit disorder. As seen by that upgrade-scheme of Windows 10 or adding small stupid changes for no reason at all that everyone hates (like the ALL-CAPS menus in Visual Studio when W8 appeared). They are doing stuff just because. 2. Desire for "purified standards". NuMS has adopted a loony "pure-standards" (also known as ("you should ONLY use this or else!) ideology, that was once common-place on places like Slashdot etc. That's why for example the W8 mail-app did not support POP3, despite being the most common mail-protocol in the world. 3. Piss off the userbase on purpose, especially the technical one like in this case. At this point that's a viable explanation! I've had my fair share of encounters with NuMS shills and know through their Freudian tongue-slips that there was this "they hate us, let's hate them back" mood during the W8-siege at MS (probably one of the reasons they retired the technet subscription). That attitude is probably still there.

Oh God, the NuMicrosoft craziness never stops: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/exchange-account-set-up-missing-in-outlook-2016/ Comments: Hobbyist freetard projects provide more productline-stability than this NuMicrosoft garbage nowadays. NuMS never stops to mess up, ever. It's awesome how this company always finds some way to p*** off their customers since 2012.

Windows 10 is Windows distro. Just like late 90s/early 2000s Linux distros, it's not about using the OS, it's about tinkering with it. In a bad forced way in this case though. They are serious about churning out constantly new Windows 10 builds, and these changes aren’t all under the hood, lots of them are GUI changes. And of course these upgrade will be forced on W10. Imagine that: A Windows that changes every few months. Just who the heck wants THAT?! What the eff is wrong with Microsoft. No one asked for THIS. People are in generally annoyed by the Windows Update procedure (“Please wait until Windows applies the updates.. don’t turn off your computer! You must reboot now! Windows failed to apply the update!”) they don’t want even more of them. I didn't like Windows 8, but I at least understood why they went for it, even though they ultimately failed (trying to capure the tablet market), but this late 90s Linux distro path they are on now, I just don’t get it. Does anyone? And what about small businesses? The volume licensing to get the sanest edition (LTSB) is too costly for them, and that’s an userbase that will be extremely annoyed by this, think of doctor’s offices, smaller law firms etc. The constant updating is bad enough, but do you know anyone who wants his OS GUI getting reshuffled every few months? Even a "pro" would be pissed at this. It would also probably break GUI automation-tools like auto-it in some cases. And it has nothing to do with being afraid of change: If I buy a new TV I expect that I will have to learn the new remote control and the menus. But if the menus and the control would be changing every few months on their own, it would be just annoying and taxing on the brain (conflicting with usage patterns). A constantly changing OS GUI is the same. That's the reason I would rather have W8 than W10. I don't understand W10 as a product at all. All that fast-ring, slow-ring, LTSB as-a-service crap. Why have they come up with this in the first place? I even fail to see a clear monetization-aspect in this, if the forced W10-upgrades continue to be free. Upgrading their spyware seems to be the only sane point in this (for them). Too many people at Microsoft have untreated ADHD.

Are they serious?? --JorgeA Yes, they are serious. Windows is basically a 90s Linux distro now. For the life of me, I don't get it why. Just who the heck is wowed by the prospect of a changing Windows every 6 months or more? And the changes aren't under the hood, the new builds will change the GUI each time too. This is madness.

And that's the reason why they tried to force that thing without consent last week. NuMicrosoft is a complete trainwreck. All their garbage-plans of the past three years didn't work and they aren’t even interested in any solution to their problem. Their problem is the my-way-highway approach, and unfortunately their way stinks. It got even worse with Nadella. No one is interested in their metro craps, because THEY ARE STILL WORSE THAN THE WIN32 ONES. No one wants an OS on the PC that is almost completely uncontrollable and unpredictable. Windows 10, due its always-changing nature is not a reliable OS. And Microsoft keeps patching in more and more hostile actions into it (see the start-menu ads in the newest builds). Just how the eff is that appealing and how is that good for building trust in their update-mechanism? No week passes by without a major consumer-hostile NuMicrosoft blunder. I have never seen a company so eager to be aborted.

LOL, desperate much: This message appears in the newest W10 builds when you want to get rid of Edge as default browser. Pro-tips to Microsoft. If you want your “new” browser to be taken seriously: 1. Don’t release it all buggy and call that “RTM”. 2. Add features pretty much all other browsers have (extensions). Even the first Netscape and IE versions had them if you count NPAPI. 3. Release it on more OSes than just one version of one platform! No one takes metro-only, W10-only software seriously. 4. Why do you guys expect that people will commit to this browser, given how you treated your users so far? IE got killed, but Edge is only available on W10, IE users on anything non-Windows 10 have no choice but to switch to the competition. How much trust do you guys think people have in a new browser from Microsoft now? Yeah, I know, you guys want them all to switch to W10 and all, well, how about not making W10 as obnoxious as possible then, with a start menu still worse than on W7, the crazy update-policy, the constant phone-home etc. 5. If your stand-out features are “distraction-free reading” (Hint: every browser has this, try to press F11) and smudging on websites, you have a problem!

Maybe, but I begin to appreciate them in their over-the-top evilness. It's like rooting for Darth Vader or Hannibal Lecter. NuMicrosoft (W8 era) was retarded, but this EvilMicrosoft (W10 era) has its qualities, don't you think? The events of the past few days were like: "Windows 10 installed on this computer without any confirmation - my printer doesn't work anymore and I can't even access some documents!" MS: "We pressed the wrong button, and it's your fault for still using W7 anyway! NOT SORRY!" Lovely, isn't it?! I guess lots of people will deactivate Windows Update now. Given EvilMicrosoft's behavior so far, I wouldn't be surprised if they would develop a virus to bring unpatched Windows 7 machines down and brag about it one week later:

MS is admirable in a certain evil-doer way. I can't think of any company in recent times which behaved like that in such an overly obvious way. Monsanto and Nestle aren't nice, but they exploit the third-world, while MS exploits their own paying customers! "We have you by your asses, and you can't do anything about it, lol". "Don't like the spying? What ya you gonna do, punk?! Look how your whole network infrastructure depends on our software. Shove it!" They don't frigging care anymore, and they basically admit outright. Aside from DX 12, Windows 10 offers no improvements over Windows 7, and they know it, as seen by their ads ("multi-do"). And they don't care! They also flaunt it in your face in the EUA that everything you do on your computer will be processed by their own data centers for ads and spying. They aren't even concealing it in the slightest. And their response for the lack of consumer interest due all this? Force them, whether they want it or not. Your settings and preferences are meaningless! Don't expect any DOJ and EU regulators to stop us, we are spying for them! You are our property if you install Windows 10! And we will force you to install it! It's almost beautiful in a real perverted, morbid way. NuMicrosoft is like an "evil corporation" from these cyberpunk-dystopias coming to live. Almost awesome.

MS almost triggered the fall-out:

Microsoft customer service: Always there to help!

Just in time for the Windows 10 release!

Snowden's documents (compiled in this book)

From the guy who spies on you and puts malware on your computer without consent: http://archive.financialexpress.com/news/be-a-source-of-energy-for-others-microsoft-ceo-satya-nadella-s-lesson-for-the-youth-of-india/1294529

Newsflash:It was an “accident”. http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-admits-error-after-some-windows-781-pcs-began-windows-10-upgrade-automatically Yea, I don’t buy it. No “optional update” is ever checked by default. Ever. That was deliberate, and they probably only scale back after some outrage happened.

I am shocked everything is so relaxed currently. When Windows 8 appeared, the outrage was FAR bigger. W8 had a shitty UI, but Windows 10 is far far far worse in the creepy-alley and not much outrage this time. Is it because usability is more important than privacy for most people? or is because everyone is exhausted after the Windows 8 battle? I actually think it's the latter. I wouldn't be surprised if Windows 8 was a sneaky plan of sorts: Make a bad Windows version on purpose, be obnoxious about it, so that people get worked up about it and will be too tired to be worked up about the FAR WORSE THING coming after W8. By the way:

IT BEGINS!!!! http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-upgrade-nags-become-more-aggressive-offer-no-opt-out/ That’s it, they are forcing Windows 10 without opt-out now! Where is the fucking CLASS-ACTION SUIT!?! I don't have that behavior on W7 by the way, I guess it's because I monitor them for anything "GWX" or "telemetry" releated and deselected these updates before they got installed. Those people who didn't do this, get pestered with no opt-out now.