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Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results:
Mozilla is working on another Firefox UI design refresh
https://www.ghacks.net/2021/01/02/mozilla-is-working-on-a-firefox-design-refresh/
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2 hours ago, asdf2345 said:
Nobody asked for MSFN to downgrade to the latest Invision Community Software...
That's never necessary, just ask google.
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On 12/27/2020 at 10:49 PM, Tangy said:
I have no problems whatsoever on youtube. It even performs ( NM28 +XP ) better than Vivaldi browser on win 7.
It's not that bad for me either on the more modern computer but for older ones the previous layout was much faster and more responsive. It's still there but google is making it practically impossible to use it.
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6 hours ago, roytam1 said:
I'm still using winamp 5.65 (not anything newer) due to some weird bugs appeared in newer builds.
5.8 beta seems to be fine for me on Win7 but WACUP is better on Win10 because several broken winamp features on that OS are fixed and development has stopped.
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14 minutes ago, win32 said:
The current stable 3.0.11 works on XP, while later versions of the extended kernel allow for 3.0.0 (and a few after that iirc) to work mostly, but it crashes if you load one of the setting pages...
3.0 is good on w2k then. I never got around to installing a newer kernelex in full, just extracted some of the files from it and replaced the older ones in system32 with them. Interestingly, all of the OSs to play around with and W2k remains the best ever. Blackwingcat's work has been greatly appreciated.
Just to note, for those on Win7 or higher dro's WACUP player (a forked version of winamp) can also stream youtube videos but for now VLC remains the first choice.
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1 hour ago, asdf2345 said:
The latest VLC works on XP, so I don't know where you got 2.2.6 from
On W2k 2.2.6 is the highest, and that's only because of blackwingcat's kernelex. I have not tested his very latest kernelex version from March 2019 so it's possible 3.0 works, all anyone can do is try it.
If 3.0 is good on XP I stand corrected, it was only tested on W2k and Win7 and 2.2.6 for me is better anyway. It's much preferred over the newer versions.
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7 hours ago, IXOYE said:
Hi
I no longer use youtube with Windows XP because they do everything they can to make it difficult for us to view videos with scripts that crash all the time on browsers adapting to xp. The "Good Old YouTube 1.16.0" plug-in no longer works on xp browsers, but there are workarounds for this problem.
A little off topic but for XP\2000 users another alternative to google’s slow and annoying video player rendering with their “new and improved” youtube layout is to stream with VLC player. You probably wouldn’t want to use it very time but when I’m watching a bunch of videos in a row it comes in handy as it's quick and streams flawlessly with no worries of ads.
For those interested the last VLC version to work in the older operating systems is 2.2.6, which can still be downloaded off the internet, filepuma has it.
And as if google’s constant changing and breaking of their sites isn’t enough, they also apparently relish doing the same to their streaming protocols as well on occasion killing video playing with VLC but mercifully linkfanel at github keeps up with it:
https://github.com/videolan/vlc/blob/master/share/lua/playlist/youtube.lua
You need to download it raw, make sure its name is youtube.lua and then replace the old one in the app\vlc\lua\playlist folder.
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2 hours ago, siria said:
FLASH timebomb:
have read here the last clean version is 371 already:
https://msfn.org/board/topic/181941-adobe-flash-player-removal-updates/?do=findComment&comment=1192177
And that once updated, it's near impossible to downgrade again to an older Flash version...If Ben Markson's solution works then having the last version shouldn't matter?? For me since I keep the flash dll in the basilisk\browser\plugins folder whitelisting will have no effect, it will only for the IE activex version so I'm going to download version 371 for basilisk, thanks for the link. And thanks for nothing Adobe. :--)
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11 hours ago, RainyShadow said:
Newgrounds (although they seem to be transitioning to Ruffle emulation), Kongregate, Ninja Kiwi, Armor Games...
Thanks for those links, I can bookmark them to test out later. Ruffle emulation is what I had read about and should install in these older FF versions.
@Ben Markson
That's good to know about the whilelisting, if it holds then I can reinstall 32.0.0.465 back onto Win7, but will be keeping 32.0.0.453 just in case.
@InterLinked
Not suprising, there are academic sites still using the old Shockwave player so flash will probably be around a while as well.
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Does anyone know of any sites that still use flash? I haven't been able to find any lately but there's probably still some around.
For those it might be a good idea to consider keeping an older version for Basilisk since from what I've read Adobe put a time bomb on their last version set to explode Jan 1, 2021. I've got v32.0.0.453 just in case, although there is supposedly a flash emulator available somewhere that will hopefully install in these older FF versions.
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14 minutes ago, Dave-H said:
My ATI Catalyst driver version is 10.2, which is probably the issue.
Apparently 10.6 is the minimum required for WebGL.
10.2 is the last for my card that works on XP.
You might want to try looking into installing one of blackwingcat's newer, modified versions:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/571484.html
On Windows 2000 I've got the 2010/6/19 Version 10.6a(AGP+HDMI) and webgl works. That may install for you but it might be a good idea to ask blackwingcat first:
https://msfn.org/board/topic/149233-kernelex-for-win2000/?page=99
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2 hours ago, VistaLover said:
In the specific case of GitHub, a true life-saver is the legacy extension referenced just three posts above by @Sampei.Nihira,
That sounds good, I'll give it a try. Thanks to Sampei.Nihira for posting the link.
Update: just installed it and now the github pages are coming in. Thanks again since I use that site quite a bit and don't have to rely on quantum. I haven't even bothered to infest my system with any chromium versions.
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Another site I'm having trouble with Serpent 52 on is github, it won't always fully come in, with or without javascript. Sometimes it works but others the page remains blank. No problems with Quantum.
https://github.com/xiaoxiaoflood/firefox-scripts/tree/master/chrome
This I think is a known issue but just started recently for me.
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32 minutes ago, ArcticFoxie said:
To each their own, you cited earlier that you don't see any benefit to using Pale Moon.
Well I stand corrected, it's very possible that New Moon 27 may perform better than Serpent on my older machine, when I get a chance I'm going to try it.
It's the newer one where based on my experience that even if Serpent gets beat in benchmarks it won't be by much. And with Serpent all my useful addons work perfectly and nearly every page renders as good as Quantum so I'm considering the bigger picture.
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2 hours ago, asdf2345 said:
How does Serpent 52 compare to Serpent 55?
For me they're about the same in speed, although Serpent 55 seems to render a little smoother.
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10 hours ago, ArcticFoxie said:
"Serpent" is the SLOWEST of the browsers being offered here (at least on my hardware, "mileage may vary").
On my older Netvista P4 2.6 that's probably true. Some javascript-intense sites like Twitter barely move when scrolling with the keyboard. On Windows 7 I'm forced to use Quantum. Maybe toggling javascript.options.ion.inlining to true will make a difference.
With this newer quad-core i5-3470 Serpent is blazing fast, no matter the site. Compared to what I was using, it's impossible to see how any browser could be much faster.
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10 minutes ago, Jody Thornton said:
How do you find it better DanR20? I'm moving to Interlink Mail and News in January.
I would run Roytam1's version but there is no interest (last that I check) in making an x64 build yet, is there?
It's just the older style that I prefer. The preferences open up in a separate user interface (much easier to work with), the icons are better and the program itself is faster at opening up and retrieving messages.
It seems like the newer the version the more sluggish and bloated it gets.
As far as the x64 build: wouldn't know whether there's plans to offer that version.
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@Roy,
Thanks for your continuing work and upload of mailnews, for me it’s even better than the newer versions for Windows 7+
For some reason though the yahoo account won’t retrieve messages when using the built-in “get messages from all accounts” button command or with the Shift+F5 keyboard shortcut. However, I did find an addon that does: The Get/Send-Button version 5.31. The good part is that it can be configured to make that the default.
Why the addon works and not the built-in button or keyboard command I have yet to figure out. Both use the same command to retrieve all account messages simultaneously: goDoCommand('cmd_getMsgsForAuthAccounts');.
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2 hours ago, Koishi Komeiji said:
I thought upstream PM forked from 24 and then had to fork from the 38 codebase?
From what I understand New Moon 27 is based on the Firefox 38 codebase while New Moon 28 is Firefox 52.
Personally I don't see the benefit of using Pale Moon over the Serpent/UXP version that is offered here for download, for me Serpent does everything I need addon-wise and speed but they both probably have their advantages depending on what the user is using it for.
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So far changing the Other Pages to off option has fixed the search problem for me.
We all know this can end at anytime as soon as google finally pulls the plug on the old format but I'll make use of it as long as it's there.
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For those using the good old youtube addon and getting the json txt file download prompt a Russian reviewer (had to translate) suggested toggling in options Page fix methods/Other Pages to off. So far that seems to have worked, although it often goes to the newer format when searching.
Wish Google had left youtube alone but nobody ever expected they would . Maybe the anti-trust lawsuit against them will keep them busy for a while :--).
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On 10/22/2020 at 9:00 PM, VistaLover said:
7-zip has an (advanced) setting under Tools -> Options -> Editor where you can input the full path to your preferred code editor's main executable, and from then on "text-like" files inside an opened archive will open with said selected editor; very handy indeed, does not involve OS-wide file type (i.e. extension) associations...
That was something I always knew about but never used and you're right, it will open files with Word without extracting.
For now I've had to disable good old youtube because when I use search from firefox home page it will sometimes open the download box to download json.txt. Very annoying since that is how I go to youtube most of the time. It's obviously a problem the developer is aware of since reviewers have mentioned it.
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@nicolaasjan,
That makes it easier than extracting it. You can also directly edit the file with 7-zip within the .xpi and without extraction (it'll open notepad) but sometimes that works and sometimes not as far as corrupting the addon. Better to go with with a program like Notepad++ that's more reliable.
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1 hour ago, nicolaasjan said:
You might try Notepad++...
That might work too. When I do it with notepad I'm getting the same corrupt problem where it won't install.
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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
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You don't want to give them any ideas. :--)
This has to be UI designers on the payroll justifying their jobs since there's no rationale to keep messing with the UI when Mozilla knows how much their remaining user base hates it.
For now we can probably revert most of the nonsensical change with userchrome.css but I'm waiting for that shoe to drop where they do away with that option completely. Even more reason to keep using roytam's basilisk and pale moon.