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Neat, I had to try this. I have ViewSonic VP181b IPS display with BGR screen instead of the usual RGB. With SmoothText 1.1.5 set to BGR all text looks highlighted with a yellow marker. The color looks like the inverse of the system background color. I haven't rebooted yet, is a reboot necessary? I just started SmoothText.exe Thanks !

Win2k was much easier to install on my Asus M4A78T-E (790GX/SB750), operation is flawless and without any limitations. Installation details from my notes and Nlite's LAST SESSION.INI: First, open registry before install and enable 48-bit LBA as described here in post# 18 http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/75713-48-bit-lba-on-win2k-setup/page__view__findpost__p__590337 Then I used nlite to slipstream as follows: SP4 and Update Rollup 1 for Windows 2000 SP4\Windows2000-KB891861-v2-x86-ENU.EXE Also slipstreamed from the Asus CD for M4A78T-E, in Drivers\XP directory: \IDEATA133\amdhdc.inf,PCI_IDE \IDEATA133\amdhdc.inf,SATA_IDE \SMBUS\SMBUSati.inf,0 \SB700USBF\USBFilter.inf,0 (I doubt this one is needed) \EPU\Acpi\WIN2000\ATK2000.INF,0 \Lan\x86_x64\Win2K\l1e50x86.inf,0 and blackwingcat's AHCI and video drivers mentioned earlier in this thread: \ahcix86-2k3_2_1540_53\ahcix86.inf,Napa_i386_ahci8086 \ati1010w2k\CX106098.inf,0 After installation I applied blackwingcat's 'Logical CPU Limit Break' Windows2000-KB979683-v2-x86-ENU.EXE That's it! But if you want an easy one-step install then use a mobo with NVIDIA chipset, like those I mentioned above. //

Done, Win2k on GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H. I even loaded the AHCI driver but performance is no better than "Native IDE" mode. Also, I prefer the way NVIDIA video drivers display fonts. If you look at the image above, the ATI driver makes font look washed out.

And some results from EVEREST Ultimate Edition GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H stock on XP GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H stock on Win2K MSI NF980-G65 at 4.0 GHz on Win2K Asus M4N98TD-EVO at 4.0 GHz on Win2K

K10stat VS Cool'n'Quiet K10stat outperforms Cool'n'Quiet in both Win2K and XP.

Win2k VS XP benchmarks I've swapped out the Phenom B55 CPU for a 965 but Win2K vs XP performance per MHz is basically identical. Win2K has an advantage in 2D graphics and XP a slight advantage in disk performance because I was able to install the AHCI driver. B55_NO_C&Q = XP GA-890GPA-UD3H = Win2K Win2k VS XP Summary Win2k VS XP Detail Same results in HTML Table

The GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H is a new mobo (version 2.0 BTW), so I installed the latest BIOS (FEb) and downloaded the branded audio drivers from Gigabyte... and we have sound! Uptime is excellent, no problems. I'm beating up on it and can't break it. I wake it up from other machines on my network, use it and remotely put it to sleep. System idles at 52 watts at the wall, XP idles at 47. CPU and GPU are both throttling, so the difference must come from elsewhere. XP's cpu driver optimized for the Phenom offers no peformance advantage, K10stat throttles very well and outperforms C&Q (will post benchmark comparisons soon). Installation: Win2k detected and re-configured all devices, when it asked for drivers I offered the CD from Gigabyte. It's running standard 2kSP4, with blackwingcat's 'Logical CPU Limit Break' and video ati1008w2k. Device “ATI HDMI Audio” still not loading. What does it do? Win2k Installation failed at the 1st stage – text mode. So if I reinstall, I'll do 1st stage with a vanilla mobo, then plug the disk to the 890GX for the first boot and continue from there.

You don't have to switch, you can use 2K and XP and Vista and Vista Light, though Linux is more fun these days. I've found Win2000 works perfectly on all NVIDIA chipset mobos, including the latest like MSI NF980-G65 and Asus M4N98TD EVO... which is the best performing rig I've ever tried. You can download all drivers in one package from NVIDIA and it works out-of-the-box.

Thanks. Windows 2000 was designed for Pentium II CPU and 32 MB memory, so with a quad Phenom running at 4GHz and 4 gigabytes of memory win2k just flies!!! I've temporarily disabled USB 3.0 in BIOS because it breaks S3 in Linux.... But I still can't install the Windows sound drivers. The previously installed VIA sound drivers are still there and preventing the Realtek driver (and Control Panel applet) from loading. However, everything else works flawlessly and this is the fastest Win2000 I've ever seen

Dunno if it would work, but if you like tweaking you'd love Linux, it's a tweaker's paradise, and it's open source so if it doesn't work you can re-write it.

I have the Task Scheduler resume the machine at night to run a batch. It is supposed to suspend S3 again immediately after completing the task, but it doesn't! It stays on indefinitely. Task scheduler log shows that the task completes normally. Windows 2000 always suspends without fail after completing tasks. Why is XP failing to suspend?

Thanks to os2fan2 for post #18 I could swear I've seen an nlite option to enable 48-bit LBA, "large disks" or something to that effect. I have installed Win2k+sp4 on 160GB sata disks without EnableBigLba in registry and it works fine -- how come? But also I have cases where only the first 128GB are seen and the rest is "unformatted", "corrupt", etc. About REG.EXE batch commands, I use quotes (e.g in ADD command) in case filenames or parameters contain spaces.

Quad CPU works too at 4.0GHz, see validation below

The main lesson I learned is this: If Windows 2000 will not install on the latest AMD mobos, it doesn't mean that Win2000 doesn't run on new hardware, it simply means that the Win2k installer doesn't work. In this case, win2k booted fine off an existing installation. All it needed was drivers off the Gigabyte CD that comes with the mobo. Even Linux doesn't yet support the SB850 chipset, so it's remarkable that win2k does! The first stage of Win2k/XP installation copies files and creates a basic windows boot. I think that might be sufficient for installation, but I don't know how to create such a basic bootable image of Windows. Would starting the installation from within windows work?

I use a VBS script and existing MS tools to backup a running system to a second disk. The resulting backup is bootable so there's nothing to restore. 3 steps: I use robocopy.exe from Windows Server 2003 Resource Kit Tools. It mirrors everything except the registry. Then I copy the Registry using Regback.exe from Windows 2000 Resource Kit. Then I apply a small Registry tweak to make the cloned partition bootable. It all runs automatically at night in Windows Task Scheduler. It works in Win2k and XP, (Regback utility doesn't work in XP so you gotta use a different tool like ERUNT for copying the registry on a running system).

An update on Win2000 on 890GX/SB850 (GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H) The good news: I fixed S3 Suspend, used “Enable S3 for USB Device” from CD, now it suspends/resumes faster than you can blink, much faster than XP, Vista or Vista Light 7. Also, I loaded blackwingcat's new video driver (ati1007w2k), it's very stable in Win2000 with Radeon HD 4290... thank you! Next I'm gonna try my Phenom II X4 B55 on Win2K, for under $100 it unlocks to a quad and outperforms intel CPUs selling for over $1,000 http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html The bad news: I have a “dirty” but working Windows 2000, so I tried to do a new “clean” install and failed. I slipstreamed AMD drivers with nlite but Win2k CD installer just hangs... But this mobo has 3 different types of sata connectors: 1-4 = SATA, then there are 2 (5&6) controlled separately in BIOS, and 2 JMicron (7&8 the white ones) than can run as PATA, so no drivers may be needed in win2k. Also, there's no sound yet (as per my screen shot above), but the drivers appear to install without error (just like USB 3.0). As I've mentioned above, I've used 3 different mobos with this Win2k installation, so there were drivers in the registry for VIA HD audio, Creative Audio WDM and a different type of Realtek chip... and NVIDIA drivers, so perhaps there's something interfering.

I installed from the Gigabyte CD that comes with the mobo, but USB3.0 root hub is not installing properly (as you can see in my screen shot) so the device is not functional.

blackwingcat, some answers: my hal.dll version = 5.0.2195.7006 Windows2000-KB979683 is installed but where is V2? Device ID for ? USB 3.0 driver = 1.0.18.0 from Gigabyte CD my ATI HDMI driver =5.10.0.6034 from Gigabyte CD I've also tried kb835730 with “usepmtimer” or ... [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\HAL] "14140000FFFFFFFF"=dword:00000010 ...but removed it I installed the sound drivers on the Gigabyte CD and one I downloaded from Realtek. I thought that KB888111 is included in that package. I'm away right now, but I will check the version numbers soon, most of the drivers are on that machine. Also, there's NO S3 suspend or hibernation, perhaps unable to power down the audio hardware without a driver? I tried your CPU registry patch for the quad, but Windows locked me out and wouldn't let me login. I had to open the registry offline and reset the changes. Also, I was confused as to which of your video drivers to use. Likewise, I couldn't determine which version of your AHCI is appropriate for the 890GX/SB850. I have access to my notes... I used your video ati2k1001.zip, it's very stable, but there's a single entry in the Event viewer on every boot: Event Type: Information Event Source: Save Dump Event Category: None Event ID: 1001 Date: 7/19/2010 Time: 10:29:40 AM User: N/A Computer: GIGA Description: The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000001e (0xc0000005, 0x804f5ba4, 0x00000000, 0x00000033). Microsoft Windows 2000 [v15.2195]. A dump was saved in: C:\WINNT\Minidump\Mini071910-06.dmp. Also Windows File Protection, Event ID: 64002 for system32\ksclockf.ax and a bunch of k*ax files, not sure if this is related.

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You can run AVG on demand: "C:\Program Files\AVG\AVG9\avgscanx.exe" /COMP /HEUR /ARC /CLEAN /BOOT /PROC /REG /PUP /COO /ADS /PRIORITY=High About AVG bloat, unneeded services, etc., you can disable most of it with Sysinternals' autoruns.exe

The Bart geeks said it can't be done. I can't remember the reason, MS discourage easy cloning of their OS.

I installed the sound drivers on the Gigabyte CD and one I downloaded from Realtek. I thought that KB888111 is included in that package. I'm away right now, but I will check the version numbers soon, most of the drivers are on that machine. Also, there's NO S3 suspend or hibernation, perhaps unable to power down the audio hardware without a driver? I tried your CPU registry patch for the quad, but Windows locked me out and wouldn't let me login. I had to open the registry offline and reset the changes. Also, I was confused as to which of your video drivers to use. Likewise, I couldn't determine which version of your AHCI is appropriate for the 890GX/SB850. I have access to my notes... I used your video ati2k1001.zip, it's very stable, but there's a single entry in the Event viewer on every boot: Event Type: Information Event Source: Save Dump Event Category: None Event ID: 1001 Date: 7/19/2010 Time: 10:29:40 AM User: N/A Computer: GIGA Description: The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000001e (0xc0000005, 0x804f5ba4, 0x00000000, 0x00000033). Microsoft Windows 2000 [v15.2195]. A dump was saved in: C:\WINNT\Minidump\Mini071910-06.dmp. Also Windows File Protection, Event ID: 64002 for system32\ksclockf.ax and a bunch of k*ax files, not sure if this is related.

Use REG utility to open any registry file offline.

Thank you. I'd tried slipstreaming Win2k on 790GX (ASUS M4A78T-E) but couldn't boot the windows installer. Then I installed Win2K on 890GX/SB850 (GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H) by accident! I had a Win2k installation for an NVIDIA Asus M4N68T-M, then used the same disk on an MSI NF750-G55. Then I accidentally booted the same partition with the GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H ... and it booted up in 640x480! Here's what it looks like: ________ I had to remove a lot of stuff: VIA HD audio NVIDIA drivers ASUS drivers Creative Audio WDM and I used blackwingcat's video driver, thank you I'm unable to install Realtek Audio/ATI HDMI and USB3.0, device manager reports Code 31 and Code 10 respectively. Win2k Cool 'n' Quiet driver does NOT recognize Phenom II CPUs, I use K10stat instead, which is much better! Also Win2k only uses 2 cores of my Phenom II X4 B55, the 2 unused cores remain unthrottled using too much energy, so to idle this CPU at 0.975V one must revert to Phenom II X2 555BE That's it for now. Feel free to contribute. It would be nice to have a detail list of drivers that need to be slipstreamed with nLite for a successful Win2000 installation.

Just install win2k+sp4 and then run WIndows Update, it adds some 50-60 updates. Windows Update on auto-pilot used to crash but MS fixed it so it works for now.