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As AVG and Avast are now the same company, I don't see how one can be considered OK and the other "discredited"? When I tried them both they seemed to be virtually identical.

I can confirm this too. After installing Win32 https://o.rths.ml/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.5.win32-git-20200208-7ab9bf7-uxp-6c82d043a-xpmod.7z If I go to add-ons and then click on plug-ins I won't see the following listed: OpenH264 Video Codec Widevine Content Decryption Module Primetime Content Decryption Module but if I revert back to Win32 https://o.rths.ml/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.5.win32-git-20200201-2d98a15-uxp-64c8c65cf-xpmod.7z I will see them listed.

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rths.ml/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20200208-f249ecbf-uxp-6c82d043a-xpmod.7z Browser-only Suite Win32 https://o.rths.ml/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20200208-f249ecbf-uxp-6c82d043a-xpmod.7z source patch (excluding UXP): https://o.rths.ml/boc-uxp/boc-uxp-src-xpmod-20191123.7z Official repo changes since my last build: - Make version2k aware of .1 build numbers (c31428dd) - Update commit pointer (15ce868b) - Fix mach stub some more (4a0503b5) - Update commit pointer (6236c0ba) - Remove soon to be busted ScratchPad (204adc40) - Establish shared communicator-devtools and include scratchpad (c13a01cb) - If the (non-existent) Web Console isn't there then fall back to error console for content script errors (35181186) - Add a git reset hard command to machstub (b3ff1d28) - Add webpatching to machstub (046d2c53) - Use the platform's copy of config.guess (d43218f2) - Update commit pointer (b599cb99) - Fix navigator official branding moz.build (f249ecbf) My changes since my last build: - fixed theme moz.build syntax error For UXP changes please see above.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rths.ml/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.5.win32-git-20200208-7ab9bf7-uxp-6c82d043a-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rths.ml/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.5.win64-git-20200208-7ab9bf7-uxp-6c82d043a-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rths.ml/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.5.win32-git-20200208-7ab9bf7-uxp-6c82d043a-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rths.ml/palemoon/palemoon-28.9.0a1.win32-git-20200208-5b28a93fa-uxp-6c82d043a-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rths.ml/palemoon/palemoon-28.9.0a1.win64-git-20200208-5b28a93fa-uxp-6c82d043a-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes since my last build: - Issue #1342 - Remove support for system linbpng (e0103f3d5) - Issue #1342 - Update old.configure for removed build options (8f89965f5) - Issue #1342 - Remove support for system sqlite (d41ba28f5) - Issue #1342 - Remove support for system libvpx (229f84129) - Issue #447 - Update HSTS preload list & reduce debug spew (33ad27614) - Issue #1377 - Fix porting typo in mailnews/base/search/content/searchWidgets.xml (6bb671bcd) - Issue #1378 - Align the drawing of table cell backgrounds with the spec. (28208f1d3) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from dom/ (406fc463e) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from mailnews/ (f9ddbe364) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from netwerk/ (a18c27ddd) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from toolkit/content (7d21d02d5) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from toolkit/modules (6a3907dae) - Issue #1378 - Follow-up: make sure background items remain table-aligned. (dd68cb9b3) - Issue #1355 - Hit testing in large tables has become extremely slow (f7b2f0a66) - Fix preprocessor directive in UserAgentUpdates.jsm (54e3d7400) - Merge pull request #1380 from win7-7/optimization-2-pr (0db3f512e) - Revert "Issue #1355 - Hit testing in large tables has become extremely slow" (d216db11e) - Issue #1355 - Hit testing in large tables has become extremely slow (e6c346c36) - Merge pull request #1381 from win7-7/optimization2-pr (bbbfd00f9) - Issue #1382 - Remove invalid assertion. (9c6a8450b) - Issue #1384 - Match standard for colSpan/rowSpan (52940bc44) - Merge pull request #1385 from win7-7/standard-pr (c4e1022f5) - Issue #1386 - Devirtualize GetRowSpan/GetColSpan (597a6996f) - [Installer] Updated the 7-zip stub binary to make sure it doesn't hang on older versions of Windows but instead provides a usable error message (a59545110) - Issue #26 Part 2a: make more EME code conditional. (99118e38e) - Issue #26 - Part 2b: Stub out GMPDecryptorProxy functions. (d44c61bf6) - fix whitespace (3a7d5d01c) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from toolkit/profile (840ecb526) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from toolkit/mozapps/update (43f91872b) - Issue #26 - Part 2c: Remove dependence on gmp/widevine-adapter/* (4c9689f68) - Merge pull request #1389 from MoonchildProductions/EME_conditional (58cfb9acc) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from toolkit/mozapps/extensions (758618b60) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from toolkit/mozapps/downloads (2e6782afb) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from toolkit/components/jsdownloads (180543f6c) - Update UXP Coding Style.md (bf914e997) - Update UXP Coding Style.md (04c770c8c) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from toolkit/components/satchel (c09eca89e) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from toolkit/components/printing (7a0b23aab) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from toolkit/components/thumbnails (0ab5c6474) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from toolkit/components/apppicker (cd8767779) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from toolkit/components/places (0749a35be) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from toolkit/components/alerts (741abd440) - Issue #65 - Remove AppConstants from toolkit/components/passwordmgr (cf4ad4e96) - Issue #1392 - Change --enable-eme to MOZ_ARG_ENABLE_BOOL and remove MOZ_EME_MODULES (832d84d2c) - [AM] Remove shared theme leftovers for webextensions (551c41893) - Issue #1390 - Remove secondscreen modules from toolkit (e80e4595b) - Issue #1390 - Get rid of the Presentation API (5483f807c) - Issue #1395 - Remove FlyWeb Service (6da9e3c6b) - Issue #1395 - Part 2: Remove the /rest/ of FlyWeb (99aa809cb) - Merge pull request #1388 from win7-7/devirtualize-pr (a6ef90b18) - Issue #65 - Correct fallthough case in profileSelection.js (b4ac6a7dc) - Issue #65 - Don't split in the middle of assignment statements in createProfileWizard.js (fa52fa60b) - Merge pull request #1394 from MoonchildProductions/appconst-work (6c82d043a) Official Basilisk changes since my last build: - Use the platform's copy of config.guess (bb7147e) - Issue MoonchildProductions/UXP#1392 - Remove usage of MOZ_EME_MODULES (3a165cd) - Issue MoonchildProductions/UXP#1390 - Remove application support for the Presentation API (7ab9bf7) Official Pale-Moon changes since my last build: - Follow up to 8a67d2608 - Remove unused import of AppConstants.jsm from setDesktopBackground.js (ce1061c55) - Issue #1722 - Part 1: Allow hiding pinned tabs for the Ctrl-Tab graphical pane (6ef65f4ef) - Issue #1722 - Part 2: Allow hiding pinned tabs for the All Tabs graphical pane (93937dd3c) - Merge pull request #1723 from FranklinDM/issue-1722-work (c9546b6df) - [Installer] Update the 7-zip stub binary. (c3ce438e6) - Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon (adde7f836) - Use the platform's copy of config.guess (e2e0aeaf9) - Issue #1721 - Add pref to control smart bookmarks size. (4dcd54c87) - Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon (5b28a93fa) My changes since my last build: - Revert "[WebRequest] Remove AddonManagerPermissions leftovers" (65ca6d803) - Reverted "[Installer] Updated the 7-zip stub binary to make sure it doesn't hang on older versions of Windows but instead provides a usable error message (a59545110)", keep using old 7zstub for long time - Reverted "[AM] Remove shared theme leftovers for webextensions (551c41893)" - [Basilisk] installer: remove Presentation API file entry leftovers, fixes packaging (4ec02a71a)

The most important advantage of the Classic Layout, especially for old browsers, is that it gets displayed without JS too, for at least seeing what the video is about, description, date, number of downloads, likes etc. And then it's possible to get direct video links with sophisticated userscripts. But with old system, old browsers, short on RAM etc, and blocked JS (which would only freeze anyway) it's a disaster now: neither Mobile nor "Modern" Layout shows anything ecxept gray fields or black box, zero text, and the direct embed-link only opens an error page. Which doesn't contain even descriptions in the source. At the moment my only one -lousy- workaround for any non-Classic view is to load the full (300kb) page source with Ctrl+U in Notepad++, then run Plugins > JS Tool > JS Format, and scroll down to almost bottom to finally see some readable text at least. How to get the video download links the future will tell. Perhaps using 3rd-party websites again, or someone can update the userscripts?

Windows 7 SP1 ESU Update Lists are no longer available for download, and this thread can be retired!