RetroOS Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 (edited) There are some people having problems with their Creative Sound Blaster Live! in Windows 9x. Creative CD release drivers and Web Release drivers seem to be in many different revisions for different cards... Some revisions are good and some are not. For years I have been collecting and testing newer versions of creative driver files to determine those that worked in 9x with the Live!. Following is that collection of driver files:Please note that these are original, freely available Creative files, and the binaries are not modified or patched in any way. The provided software is useless without a Creative Sound Blaster Live! card installed.Main Driver Set (4.42 MiB)mirror 1: http://www.mdgx.com/sbdrv/sblive2.zipCreative EMU10K1 sound devices supported: CT4620 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_00211102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen I) CT4670 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_00201102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen I) Value CT???? -- PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_002F1102 - Sound Blaster Live! motherboard integrated CT4760 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80401102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen II) CT4780 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80221102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value CT4790 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80231102 - Sound Blaster PCI512 (OEM) CT???? -- PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80251102 - Sound Blaster Live! motherboard integrated CT4830 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80261102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen II OEM) Value CT4831 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80311102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value CT4832 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80271102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value CT4850 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80511102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value CT4870 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80281102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value CT4871 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80321102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value SB0060 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80611102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen III) 5.1 SB0100 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80621102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen III) 5.1 SB0102 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80641102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen III) 5.1 SB0100 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80661102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen III) 5.1 (Unofficial)If you have a Creative Sound Blaster Live! card that is not recognised by these drivers, then please post your PCI ID.The PCI ID can be found using regedit:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\PCILook for a key starting with VEN_1102&DEV_0002, and copy the key name. I have used these drivers in Windows 98SE, but they should support 95 and Me although I have not tested them on these platforms. There are Creative installers for Windows 95 and for Windows 98/Me.Windows 9x Pure DOS support drivers For those wanting Pure DOS (outside of Windows) Sound Blaster 16 Emulation for their Live! and have lost or never had the original CD, or have a newer CD that does not come with these, or simply can't be bothered looking for them: 1999 Release (823 KiB):mirror 1: http://www.mdgx.com/sbdrv/sbldos.zip 2000 Release (827 KiB):mirror 1: http://www.mdgx.com/sbdrv/sbldos2.zip There are two releases of DOS Drivers. The 2000 release should work on all Live! cards, but if there is a problem then use the 1999 release. Note: DOS Emulation may not work on some (newer) motherboards if the BIOS does not map the PCI SERR# signal to the processor NMI (Non-Maskable Interrupt). Look in the BIOS settings for a PCI SERR setting or check with your mobo vendor for a BIOS upgrade, or dump the Mobo for one that works properly! See here for more technical information:https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.comp.periphs.soundcard.sblive/sRxF_p5Ni5I/5hP_rr0vexQJCreative Applets that are compatible and tested with VxD drivers: Check your current version of each applet before installing these in case they are actually newer than these...AudioHQ To deinstall the original CD installed AudioHQ (and 1.0.185.0):C:\WINDOWS\IsUninst.exe -f"C:\Program Files\Creative\SBLive\AudioHQ.isu" Always deinstall old version first! 1.0.185.0 (Oct 1999) - Works (1.98 MiB):mirror 1: http://www.mdgx.com/sbdrv/audiohq10185.zip 1.0.193.0 (Sep 2000) - Fails to install (!) 1.0.193.0 (May 2001) - Fails to install (!) 1.10.21 (Jun 2002) - Fails with VxD drivers 1.10.22 (Nov 2002) - Fails with VxD driversSurround Mixer To deinstall the original CD installed Surround Mixer:C:\WINDOWS\IsUninst.exe -f"C:\Program Files\Creative\SBLive\SurMixer.isu" To deinstall 1.1.1.0 of Surround Mixer:C:\WINDOWS\IsUninst.exe -f"C:\Program Files\Creative\SurroundMixer\SurMixer.isu" Always deinstall old version first! 1.1.1.0 (Nov 2000) - Works (1.68 MiB):mirror 1: http://www.mdgx.com/sbdrv/surmix111.zip 2.00.26 (Jun 2002) - Fails with VxD drivers 2.00.29 (Nov 2002) - Fails with VxD drivers 3.00.57 (Feb 2003) - Fails with VxD driversMore stuff:dencorso's parametric EQ patch for emu10k1.vxd 4.12.01.0906: See here: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=115903&view=findpost&p=771209mirror 1: https://msfn.org/board/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=22430mirror 2: http://www.mdgx.com/sbdrv/emu0906.zipaLeXis' patch installer: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=115903&view=findpost&p=771360mirror 1: http://www.mdgx.com/sbdrv/sblive-eq-patch-4.12.01.0906.exeVarious Sound Blaster files hosted by MDGx:http://www.mdgx.com/sbdrv/Standard disclaimer These drivers have worked for me but YMMV. I have been using them for years with no problem, however, they may or may not work on your model of Creative sound card, and therefore, I cannot make any guarantee of suitability. In simple terms, you are solely responsible if your audio begins to sound like you're in a concrete bunker some thirty-seven miles from the stage of Disaster Area! Enjoy! Edited September 2, 2018 by RetroOS Cleanup dead mirror links 1
RetroOS Posted April 19, 2008 Author Posted April 19, 2008 (edited) I've added the pure DOS Sound Blaster 16 Emulation drivers for the Live!These are for Windows 95/98, but not Me since Me does not have pure DOS access aside from the EBD.See first post.EDIT: Windows Me with the EBD IO.SYS patch could in fact run SB16 DOS Emulation! Edited May 28, 2008 by RetroOS
thydreamwalker Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 Will this help with SB16...as have original cdrom and older SB16 blaster audio card from '95era?...i think. ;It came with Pentium1-133Mhz-66Mhzbus-1.5gbHdd-And a useless(BTC) cdrom :***Will be putting in Via(ShuttleMoBo)Apollo 233Mhz-MMX/Pentium2(acts like a Pentium4)-66Mhzbus-4.7gbHdd,1.5Hdd---LITEON LTN301CdRom-read,audio(player/burner),LITE-ON LH52CIP DVD/CDRW Burner;H-P CD Writer/Burner THX...thydreamwalker
RetroOS Posted April 20, 2008 Author Posted April 20, 2008 Will this help with SB16...No it won't. SBLive! uses the EMU10K1 chipset that is quite different to previous Sound Blasters.Download the SB16 Windows drivers from Creative.If it's a SB16 PCI and you want to use it outside of Windows, then you will need the DOS driver.A bit tricky since Creative dropped DOS support...Try adapting the SBPCI drivers from here: http://easymamecab.mameworld.net/html/snddosdr.htm
RetroOS Posted May 25, 2008 Author Posted May 25, 2008 (edited) I've corrected some of the Sound Blaster Live! model names in the first post supported list.If anyone was wondering, the supported devices do include the SB0060 Live! 5.1 cards (previously incorrectly named).I would like to confirm the operation of these drivers on various Live! models.If you have installed these drivers and they are working correctly, then please post your Live! information.Information as listed in the first post would be good. CT or SB model (on card), descriptive model (on box or manual), and PCI ID would all be useful.PCI ID can be found using regedit:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\PCILook for key starting with VEN_1102&DEV_0002, and copy key name.And the version of Windows 9x (95, 95A, 95B, 95C, 98, 98SP1, 98SE, Me)Also let me know if the drivers have not worked for you and why.These drivers do not include the Creative apps like Surround Mixer.Many of these can be downloaded from Creative.Thanks. B) Edited May 25, 2008 by RetroOS
Th3_uN1Qu3 Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 (edited) I don't know of any PCI SB16 cards. I have an ISA one though, and it works perfectly under DOS with just this line in autoexec.bat, no drivers needed as DOS had native support for the SB:SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 T4 H6 P330You have to check the jumper settings of the card, they have to match the above line. Edited May 25, 2008 by Th3_uN1Qu3
thydreamwalker Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 Thanks your driver info helped on older PI ;yet found auto matic driver installs for a lotta Creatives SB Cards?....in Windows 2K ADV SVR...not sure if in CD-ROM or was downloaded in NTSP4 Updates? thydreamwalker
aLeXis Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Hmm the emu10k1 vxd is actually newer than what i got with liveware 3 full package...how can this be...shame the parametric eq patch doesn't work on it Thanks anyway
RetroOS Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 Yeah, patches tend to be file version specific.What model Live! card do you have?
RJARRRPCGP Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 I have model SB0100, which is a SoundBlaster Live! 5.1. Anyone else gotten the drivers installed and installed properly with the SB0100?
RetroOS Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 I have model SB0100, which is a SoundBlaster Live! 5.1. Anyone else gotten the drivers installed and installed properly with the SB0100?Hi RJARRRPCGP, I don't think the SB0100 is in the installer INF.Can you post your card's PCI ID. See my previous post for information:http://www.msfn.org/board/Compilation-of-C...549#entry767549
dencorso Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Hmm the emu10k1 vxd is actually newer than what i got with liveware 3 full package...how can this be...shame the parametric eq patch doesn't work on it Thanks anyway I can try to port the patch to the newer version... if you want me to try, do PM me.
aLeXis Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Yeah, patches tend to be file version specific.What model Live! card do you have?CT4830
RetroOS Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 Hmm the emu10k1 vxd is actually newer than what i got with liveware 3 full package...how can this be......What model Live! card do you have?CT4830Looks like you have a Generation II Live! card. I've got a Gen II myself.Generation III was introduced with the Live! 5.1.There have been driver updates since the Live!Ware 3.0 full package was released.That's the point of these drivers. As I noted in a previous post, these are the core drivers and do not include Creative applications like Surround Mixer.The Creative apps have been updated since Live!Ware 3.0 also, but there are some compatibility issues with some newer versions since they are often designed for the WDM drivers (not recommended in 9x - I tested them, and could never get them working properly...).
aLeXis Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Hmm the emu10k1 vxd is actually newer than what i got with liveware 3 full package...how can this be......What model Live! card do you have?CT4830Looks like you have a Generation II Live! card. I've got a Gen II myself.Generation III was introduced with the Live! 5.1.There have been driver updates since the Live!Ware 3.0 full package was released.That's the point of these drivers. As I noted in a previous post, these are the core drivers and do not include Creative applications like Surround Mixer.The Creative apps have been updated since Live!Ware 3.0 also, but there are some compatibility issues with some newer versions since they are often designed for the WDM drivers (not recommended in 9x - I tested them, and could never get them working properly...).Yeah i know the point of this post but i hate it when companies dont post updated drivers for their older hardware and only for the newer (obvious reasons) even if they are compatible...i didn't knew there were newer vxd drivers for my card besides the lw3.0 package. What about the apps? Is threr surround mixer update for the vxd drivers ? I would like to try it. Thanks for this nice compilation...would be nice if you could find the updated dos drivers (not preinstalled tho).
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