soporific Posted September 25, 2007 Author Posted September 25, 2007 As i already suggested @ DriverPacks.net forums, why don't you consider to build a "simple" (open sourced) driver update manager ? it's not a matter of consideration, i know i want to be able to dump drivers onto a UBCD and for setup to be able to find those drivers and use them to install the hardware it sees, and i've actually just cracked how to do this!! The only problem is understanding the INF files (which i would have to do anyway for a 'driver update manager') so setup finds the files listed in the INF without user interaction, so if you can help with this, please post, if not, sorry but that's all i need to know to get the project as i've outlined above going in reality. Cheers!
piete Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Ok, since no one has replied to my question elsewhere in this forum, I'll try my luck here. So here's my wishlist:Mobile Intel 945GM Express chipsetIntel Graphics Media Accelerator 950Audio chipset ADI1981HD PremierSound High Definition AudioIntel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG 802.11 a/b/g WLANSorry for not adding links but I guess those drivers don't exist for Win98, at least anything I've downloaded has not worked on my system.Since I'm new on this forum I don't know if all of you are "Chevy owners" who use Win9X on older systems where there are available drivers. However, I only have a HP NX7400 which is relatively modern with no-existent Win98 support. And I am not that experienced in installing drivers, in my older computer I googled a driver for the chipset and installed it with no problems. However, now that I'm trying to do the same I have no success, the screen resolution (the first thing I'm trying to change) stays at 640x480. If somebody wanted to pass me a link to "driver installation for dummies" or send me a PM, I would appreciate that, too.Also, if you think I should write my questions/problems somewhere else, feel free to comment.
eidenk Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 As i already suggested @ DriverPacks.net forums, why don't you consider to build a "simple" (open sourced) driver update manager ? it's not a matter of consideration, i know i want to be able to dump drivers onto a UBCD and for setup to be able to find those drivers and use them to install the hardware it sees, and i've actually just cracked how to do this!! The only problem is understanding the INF files (which i would have to do anyway for a 'driver update manager') so setup finds the files listed in the INF without user interaction, so if you can help with this, please post, if not, sorry but that's all i need to know to get the project as i've outlined above going in reality. Cheers!Overview of Hardware Inf InstallerHardware Inf Installer (Infinst) allows you to add new hardware drivers to Windows 98 Setup. When you install Windows 98, Setup automatically detects all hardware and installs the necessary drivers. However, you may purchase new hardware whose drivers are not included in Windows 98.This program allows you to add new hardware infs and the associated drivers to a Windows 98 Setup share.Is this helpfull ? I am not sure, as it not specified that and that I have never used it, that the hardware drivers added to windows setup with this tool are forcibly installed or if they install only if the corresponding hardware is detected.
joe tweaker Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 I'm building a Win98se video drivers pack !!!Please post your suggestions about what to include in it, please post direct links if you can. no worries if you can't.I have a very old video card, an ASUS V3400TNT (1X AGP) which came with driver version 1.02. I later upgraded to 2.17 from the ASUS website. I've seen versions 6.31c and 31.40H elsewhere, but it wasn't clear if those are ASUS upgrades. Would I get better performance with 6.31c or 31.40H?Are these too old for your driver pack? Does this pack install the video driver automatically with UBCD?
soporific Posted September 26, 2007 Author Posted September 26, 2007 (edited) I'm building a Win98se video drivers pack !!!Please post your suggestions about what to include in it, please post direct links if you can. no worries if you can't.I have a very old video card, an ASUS V3400TNT (1X AGP) which came with driver version 1.02. I later upgraded to 2.17 from the ASUS website. I've seen versions 6.31c and 31.40H elsewhere, but it wasn't clear if those are ASUS upgrades. Would I get better performance with 6.31c or 31.40H?Are these too old for your driver pack? Does this pack install the video driver automatically with UBCD?1) Nothing is too old. In fact, the older the better as long as it is genuinely used on a current Win98se system (or one that could possibly be resurrected), and it is not natively supported in Win98se. I'm not building this pack to put every driver in the known universe in, but a good selection with a good chance of being needed in the next 5 years or so.2) i would go with what the manufacturer says -- if they reckon 2.17 is the latest driver, then that's the one you post a link to. I am on a mission but this mission isn't to give everyone the very latest driver, its to simply get the hardware to work. If we give them the latest driver, that's a bonus. So for the purposes of this exercise lets not waste our time trying to determine which is the very latest if its not obvious.3) Would you get better performance with 6.31c or 31.40H? Isn't it obvious ??? dude, maybe you think i'm some sort of genius that would be able to tell you just by looking at the version numbers for drivers for an 1 x AGP old video card which one is going to give you better performance -- sorry man, i just aint that good! I am gratified a little though to know you hold my intelligence in such esteem that it was possible 4) Yes, these driver packs are designed to be used with unattended boot CD or DVDs just like the ones for WinXP etc. It won't have to be my UBCD as i will post the method (as soon as its finalized!) so as long as you know what you're doing, it will be useful on any installation disc. Edited September 26, 2007 by soporific
joe tweaker Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 1) Nothing is too old. In fact, the older the better as long as it is genuinely used on a current Win98se system (or one that could possibly be resurrected), and it is not natively supported in Win98se.2) i would go with what the manufacturer says -- if they reckon 2.17 is the latest driver, then that's the one you post a link to. I am on a mission but this mission isn't to give everyone the very latest driver, its to simply get the hardware to work.I don't recall 98SE finding a native driver for this graphics card, but it's been a while since I installed 98SE. I bought the card around 1999-2000, so it may be newer than 98SE, but not by much. <g>It seems they don't have 2.17 on the ASUS site any more, or if it is there I'm not able to find it. However, I did find 6.31c and 31.40H, so I will test what they have, and post my results with a link (probably tomorrow).PS You are still the man! <g>
soporific Posted September 26, 2007 Author Posted September 26, 2007 (edited) OK, now we immediately run into the "duplicate files" problem ... we can't just dump every single file into the one directory there are bound to be files with the same name that are completely different and the right version needs to be present for the driver to work (we have to assume this). So, i would still like to be in more control of the INF files, then we can just use C:\D1;C:\D2;C:\D3 and so on, instead of C:\Windows\Setup\D1;C:\Windows\Setup\D2;C:\Windows\Setup\D3; and so on. We will run out of string space very quick.But we are fine for now. The list so far:SiS 530SiS 6326Trident Blade XP-T64All ATI cards that are supported in the Catalyst drivers package for Win9x (which is heaps, i will post a list soon) Edited September 26, 2007 by soporific
joe tweaker Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 I would go with what the manufacturer says -- if they reckon 2.17 is the latest driver, then that's the one you post a link to. I am on a mission but this mission isn't to give everyone the very latest driver, its to simply get the hardware to work. If we give them the latest driver, that's a bonus.I found an ASUS mirror that still has version 2.17 here: http://public.www.planetmirror.com/pub/asu...400/3400drv.exeI still haven't tested the newer drivers yet. On ASUS website if you choose 'show all drivers' it says 31.40H works with 98/SE/ME, but if you choose 'show only drivers for 9x' it only shows 6.31c. I think this is the reason I originally stayed with 2.17. I know 2.17 works. And their website is as clear as mud.
8prime8 Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 I have an ATI Rage 128 Pro I purchased new in early 2000. Here is a download link for the driver package.https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2...R1284137192.exeThanks.
soporific Posted September 29, 2007 Author Posted September 29, 2007 (edited) This is it so far. They aren't any use until i release the upcoming version of UBCD but i thought you might like to see the progress ...I've tested the ATI drivers and my 9800 series Radeon was found and installed fine. I also have a NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 i can test on and so i can at least confirm the system works for the majority of major brand cards!The other issue i've come across is that some modern systems need a hardware update otherwise you can't run the rest of UBCD when the desktop first loads until you install the system drivers in particular the drivers for your system bus. So i'll need to do a pack for these as well.Here's the list:Index for the Video Driver Pack for Windows 98sev1.00__________________________________** DP_Graphics1.exe ** 5.35 MBATI Radeon 9800 seriesATI Radeon 9700 seriesATI Radeon 9600 seriesATI Radeon 9500 seriesATI Radeon 9200 seriesATI Radeon 9100 seriesATI Radeon 9000 seriesATI Radeon 8500 seriesATI Radeon 7500 seriesATI Radeon 7200 seriesATI Radeon 7000 seriesATI Radeon Xpress 200 series** and all "All-In-Wonder" variants of the every ATI Radeon series family above.SiS 530Trident Blade XP-T64__________________________________** DP_Graphics2.exe ** 3.4 MBSiS 315SiS 6326ATi Rage 128ATi Rage 128 Pro__________________________________** DP_Graphics3.exe ** 13.9 MBNVIDIA GeForce2 Integrated GPUNVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 ProNVIDIA GeForce2 TiNVIDIA GeForce2 UltraNVIDIA GeForce3NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 500NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 with AGP8XNVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8XNVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440SENVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8XNVIDIA GeForce4 MX 460NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPUNVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8XNVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800 SENVIDIA GeForce FX 5100NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 UltraNVIDIA GeForce FX 5200LENVIDIA GeForce FX 5500NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 UltraNVIDIA GeForce FX 5600XTNVIDIA GeForce FX 5700NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 UltraNVIDIA GeForce FX 5700LENVIDIA GeForce FX 5700VENVIDIA GeForce FX 5800NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800 UltraNVIDIA GeForce FX 5900NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 UltraNVIDIA GeForce FX 5900XTNVIDIA GeForce FX 5900ZTNVIDIA GeForce FX 5950 UltraNVIDIA GeForce PCX 5300NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5750NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5900NVIDIA GeForce 6100NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 400NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 405NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 420NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 430NVIDIA GeForce 6150NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LENVIDIA GeForce 6200NVIDIA GeForce 6200 A-LENVIDIA GeForce 6200 LENVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCacheNVIDIA GeForce 6200SE TurboCacheNVIDIA GeForce 6500NVIDIA GeForce 6600NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GTNVIDIA GeForce 6600 LENVIDIA GeForce 6600 VENVIDIA GeForce 6610 XLNVIDIA GeForce 6700 XLNVIDIA GeForce 6800NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GSNVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS/XTNVIDIA GeForce 6800 GTNVIDIA GeForce 6800 LENVIDIA GeForce 6800 Series GPUNVIDIA GeForce 6800 UltraNVIDIA GeForce 6800 XENVIDIA GeForce 6800 XTNVIDIA GeForce 7025NVIDIA GeForce 7050 PVNVIDIA GeForce 7100 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7300 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7300 GTNVIDIA GeForce 7300 LENVIDIA GeForce 7300 SENVIDIA GeForce 7500 LENVIDIA GeForce 7600 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7600 GTNVIDIA GeForce 7600 LENVIDIA GeForce 7650 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7800 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTNVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTXNVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX v2NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT/GTONVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTXNVIDIA GeForce 7950 GTNVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT AGPNVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2 v2NVIDIA GeForce 8300 GSNVIDIA GeForce 8400 GSNVIDIA GeForce 8500 GTNVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTNVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTSNVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTSNVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTXNVIDIA GeForce 8800 UltraNVIDIA Quadro2 MXR/EXNVIDIA Quadro2 ProNVIDIA Quadro4 380 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 580 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 700 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 750 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 780 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 900 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 980 XGLNVIDIA Quadro DCCNVIDIA Quadro FX 1000NVIDIA Quadro FX 1100NVIDIA Quadro FX 1300NVIDIA Quadro FX 1400NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500NVIDIA Quadro FX 2000NVIDIA Quadro FX 3000NVIDIA Quadro FX 3400/4400NVIDIA Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDINVIDIA Quadro FX 350NVIDIA Quadro FX 3500NVIDIA Quadro FX 4000NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 X2NVIDIA Quadro FX 500/FX 600NVIDIA Quadro FX 540NVIDIA Quadro FX 550NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600NVIDIA Quadro FX 5500NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600NVIDIA Quadro FX 560NVIDIA Quadro FX 700NVIDIA Quadro NVSNVIDIA Quadro NVS 210SNVIDIA Quadro NVS 285NVIDIA Quadro NVS 440NVIDIA Quadro NVS 50 PCINVIDIA Quadro NVS 55/280 PCINVIDIA Quadro NVS with AGP8XNVIDIA Quadro PCI-E Series Edited September 29, 2007 by soporific
galahs Posted October 1, 2007 Posted October 1, 2007 What about 3dfx cardsVoodooVoodoo RushVoodoo 2Voodoo BansheeVoodoo 3Voodoo 4 & 5Drivers can be found here:http://www.falconfly.de/3dfxProbably best to use the final 3dfx Official versions.
soporific Posted October 2, 2007 Author Posted October 2, 2007 What about 3dfx cardsDrivers can be found here:http://www.falconfly.de/3dfxgood suggestion but it has prompted the plea for more help, see first post for detailsThe voodoo files are all basically identically named and it is getting increasingly harder to work around the limitations of the method i'm using. Any help is so much appreciated if there was a world record for the amount of appreciation ever given i'm a shoe in for second place on this issue. I reckon i hold first place as well! That's a story for another time, its a good one though. I should write a book ...
soporific Posted October 3, 2007 Author Posted October 3, 2007 joe tweaker: i've found the exact page where you get confused about which version to go with: my guess is try the v31.40h files and if it all seems to work, then as this is the latest package by far (3 years difference) the only thing is whether they are telling the truth about the drivers also supporting Win98se. The clincher for me is the way the whole web page is laid out, each heading has the name of just one version of Windows. This makes these headings unreliable in terms of meaning and so i would go with what it says it supports, so the v31.40h files are definitely the best bet to thoroughly test and then go with if it tests out.please let me know which drivers you are going to go with and i will add them to the packs.here's the latest list:Index for the Driver Packs for Windows 98sev1.01__________________________________DP_w98_1.01.exe 7.65 MB extracts to 27.0 MBDP_w98_2.01.exe 10.4 MB extracts to 51.1 MBDP_w98_3.exe 13.9 MB extracts to 48.4 MBDP_w98_4.01.exe 1.41 MB extracts to 3.71 MBDP_w98_5.01.exe 9.23 MB extracts to 41.5 MBtotal: 42.2 MB extracting to 171.71 MB uncompressed__________________________________** Driver Packs 1 ** ATI Radeon 9800 seriesATI Radeon 9700 seriesATI Radeon 9600 seriesATI Radeon 9500 seriesATI Radeon 9200 seriesATI Radeon 9100 seriesATI Radeon 9000 seriesATI Radeon 8500 seriesATI Radeon 7500 seriesATI Radeon 7200 seriesATI Radeon 7000 seriesATI Radeon Xpress 200 series** and all "All-In-Wonder" variants of the every ATI Radeon series family above.SiS 315SiS 530SiS 6326SiS 635SiS 645SiS 733SiS 735Trident Blade XP-T64S3 ProSavageDDRRealtek 10/100/1000/ NIC Family (network)ADMtek AN983B (network)Realtek RTL8139 (network)LanKom LB-1200U (network)VIA VT8233 (network)Winbond W89C840 (network)__________________________________** Driver Packs 2 ** SiS 650VIA-S3 UniChromeVIA VT8361VIA VT8601VIA VT850ATi Rage 128ATi Rage 128 ProVoodoo1Voodoo2Voodoo3Voodoo4Voodoo5Voodoo Banshee__________________________________** Driver Packs 3 **NVIDIA GeForce2 Integrated GPUNVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 ProNVIDIA GeForce2 TiNVIDIA GeForce2 UltraNVIDIA GeForce3NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 500NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 with AGP8XNVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8XNVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440SENVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8XNVIDIA GeForce4 MX 460NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPUNVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8XNVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800 SENVIDIA GeForce FX 5100NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 UltraNVIDIA GeForce FX 5200LENVIDIA GeForce FX 5500NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 UltraNVIDIA GeForce FX 5600XTNVIDIA GeForce FX 5700NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 UltraNVIDIA GeForce FX 5700LENVIDIA GeForce FX 5700VENVIDIA GeForce FX 5800NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800 UltraNVIDIA GeForce FX 5900NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 UltraNVIDIA GeForce FX 5900XTNVIDIA GeForce FX 5900ZTNVIDIA GeForce FX 5950 UltraNVIDIA GeForce PCX 5300NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5750NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5900NVIDIA GeForce 6100NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 400NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 405NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 420NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 430NVIDIA GeForce 6150NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LENVIDIA GeForce 6200NVIDIA GeForce 6200 A-LENVIDIA GeForce 6200 LENVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache(tm)NVIDIA GeForce 6200SE TurboCache(tm)NVIDIA GeForce 6500NVIDIA GeForce 6600NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GTNVIDIA GeForce 6600 LENVIDIA GeForce 6600 VENVIDIA GeForce 6610 XLNVIDIA GeForce 6700 XLNVIDIA GeForce 6800NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GSNVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS/XTNVIDIA GeForce 6800 GTNVIDIA GeForce 6800 LENVIDIA GeForce 6800 Series GPUNVIDIA GeForce 6800 UltraNVIDIA GeForce 6800 XENVIDIA GeForce 6800 XTNVIDIA GeForce 7025NVIDIA GeForce 7050 PVNVIDIA GeForce 7100 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7300 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7300 GTNVIDIA GeForce 7300 LENVIDIA GeForce 7300 SENVIDIA GeForce 7500 LENVIDIA GeForce 7600 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7600 GTNVIDIA GeForce 7600 LENVIDIA GeForce 7650 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7800 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTNVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTXNVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX v2NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT/GTONVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTXNVIDIA GeForce 7950 GTNVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT AGPNVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2 v2NVIDIA GeForce 8300 GSNVIDIA GeForce 8400 GSNVIDIA GeForce 8500 GTNVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTNVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTSNVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTSNVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTXNVIDIA GeForce 8800 UltraNVIDIA Quadro2 MXR/EXNVIDIA Quadro2 ProNVIDIA Quadro4 380 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 580 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 700 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 750 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 780 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 900 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 980 XGLNVIDIA Quadro DCCNVIDIA Quadro FX 1000NVIDIA Quadro FX 1100NVIDIA Quadro FX 1300NVIDIA Quadro FX 1400NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500NVIDIA Quadro FX 2000NVIDIA Quadro FX 3000NVIDIA Quadro FX 3400/4400NVIDIA Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDINVIDIA Quadro FX 350NVIDIA Quadro FX 3500NVIDIA Quadro FX 4000NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 X2NVIDIA Quadro FX 500/FX 600NVIDIA Quadro FX 540NVIDIA Quadro FX 550NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600NVIDIA Quadro FX 5500NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600NVIDIA Quadro FX 560NVIDIA Quadro FX 700NVIDIA Quadro NVSNVIDIA Quadro NVS 210SNVIDIA Quadro NVS 285NVIDIA Quadro NVS 440NVIDIA Quadro NVS 50 PCINVIDIA Quadro NVS 55/280 PCINVIDIA Quadro NVS with AGP8XNVIDIA Quadro PCI-E Series__________________________________** Driver Packs 4 **ALi1621nForce2 (chipset)nForce3 (chipset)nForce4 (chipset)VIA USB 2.0 (usb)VIA HyperionPro 5.12 (chipset)__________________________________** Driver Packs 5 **Realtek AC97 WDM Driver (v4.01) - (audio drivers)
glocK_94 Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 What about 3dfx cards. Probably best to use the final 3dfx Official versions.It'd be nice. However, Soporific, remember that voodoo 1 and 2 are additional cards that work on top of a 2D graphic card. From what I remember, the voodoo drivers needs to be installed second.Maybe someone can confirm this.PS: thanks a lot for the link Galahs!
joe tweaker Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 joe tweaker: i've found the exact page where you get confused about which version to go with: my guess is try the v31.40h files and if it all seems to work, then as this is the latest package by far (3 years difference) the only thing is whether they are telling the truth about the drivers also supporting Win98se. The clincher for me is the way the whole web page is laid out, each heading has the name of just one version of Windows. This makes these headings unreliable in terms of meaning and so i would go with what it says it supports, so the v31.40h files are definitely the best bet to thoroughly test and then go with if it tests out.please let me know which drivers you are going to go with and i will add them to the packs.Sorry I didn't see this reply sooner. I'd moved on to the UBCD thread and forgotten I'd posted here! Is there some way to tell these forums to notify me when I have a reply so this doesn't happen again?Anyway, after building the UBCD project on my hard drive, I noticed the new driver packs were out and downloaded the full update (7 packs) into my project folders. The index informed me that v31.40H had been added to pack #1. So I decided to bite the bullet and test 6.31c and 31.40H on my active partition before burning the project.I unpacked the files for each driver to separate folders, then looked at the INF and readme files in each folder. Both readme files recommended that I uninstall the current driver (2.17) from Control Panel Add/Remove first, reboot, then run the setup file to install the new driver, then reboot again to finish. While viewing the INF for each of the new drivers, I noticed each have sections titled [Mfg] and [strings] where all the graphics cards supported by each driver appear to be enumerated. The string for my graphics card appears to be "V3400&VEN_10DE&DEV_0020." This string ONLY appears in the INF for the 6.31c driver. The lowest string in the 31.40H driver is "V3800&VEN_10DE&DEV_0028". This was my first clue that 31.40H might not install correctly.My next step was to remove 2.17, reboot, then run the setup file in the folder where I unpacked 31.40H. When I ran this setup file, the following message appeared on my screen: "No Asus Graphics Card found, or Windows boots in safe mode. Please reboot and try again." Needless to say, my graphics card was properly seated and working before this exercise, and rebooting did not help. I assume it will not install because the vendor string does not appear in the [Mfg] or [strings] sections of this driver. I also assume just adding more strings to these two sections is a bad idea. If this driver worked with my adapter, its vendor string (V3400TNT) should already be there. The fact that it isn't suggests to me that I should not bother trying to edit this driver.Having gotten nowhere with 31.40H, I moved on to testing 6.31c. This one installed without a hitch, but after rebooting my screen had moved about 1/2 inch off center, up and to the left. It looked like there were a few new tweaks in the ASUS Display Controls, but nothing I know how to use. There was a tab that allowed horizontal and vertical adjustments, but I maxed the controls out before my screen was centered. I noticed another tab said the adapter had automatically chosen to use the "Optimum" refresh rate which sounded good, so I didn't try any others.Not wanting to live with my screen image still slightly off-center, I decided to unload 6.31c and go back to 2.17. This went fine until I rebooted my system, whereupon my screen image was even more off-center (about 3/4 inch this time)! However, the tab that displayed the refresh rate now said "Adapter Default" rather than "Optimum". Before using the tab with the vertical/horizontal adjustment controls, I tried setting the refresh rate to "Optimum". This too looked pretty off-center. So I tried other values until I came to the refresh rate of 75Mhz. This setting put my image dead center again, extending all the way out to the very edges. Perfecto! No need to make any other horizontal/vertical adjustments! (This might have worked with 6.31c, too, but in my haste I'd already unloaded it without testing other refresh rates.)So, both 2.17 and 6.31c will install, but 31.40H will not. And neither 2.17 or 6.31c default to a refresh rate which produces a centered image. 6.31c has more tweaks in the ASUS Display Controls, but the screen was off center with the refresh rate set to "Optimum". Assuming "Optimum" was the best choice, I failed to test other refresh rates while 6.31c was loaded. Since I had to set 2.17 to 75Mhz to get a screen image to center, I should retest 6.31c at other refresh rates to see if it too has a "better" setting than "Optimum."One final note, since returning to v2.17 and 75Mhz, my cursor has been doing things it did not do before. When moved over text, links, input boxes, etc, it now changes from the normal pointer to a large square containing dense hash marks, sort of like what you'd see on the inside of a security envelope. It blocks out any text below it, making it impossible to position the cursor with any precision. I did not notice this behavior while 6.31c was installed, which was not very long, but immediately after 2.17 was reinstalled. To be honest, I've only rebooted once since reverting to 2.17, so maybe it will go away on the next reboot. I'll try that first, then go back to 6.31c to determine whether modifying the refresh rate there has the same effect (on centering the display) that it does in 2.17.
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