RJM Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 I’m looking to build a new system and I could use some advice from experienced builders.My budget is about $1800 USD. I am looking to replace my old and slow PIII 600mhz 256Mb Rambus rd600, FX5500 256M video. (Doom 3 5FPS, not really playable, hoping to do better) I mainly will use it for circuit board design and gaming. At the moment when I try to route a 16 layer 12X14 boards Orcad can take all night routing. This is what I have so far and I am open to your opinions and sugestions. I should be ordering the system about the end of November when I get my bonus check.CPU Core2 duo E6600 $315http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819115003Motherboard ASUS P5W DH Deluxe $259.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813131025Memory Gskill F2-6400-CL4D-2GBPK $259.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820231087Video Sapphire X1900GT 256M $197.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814102022Hard drives 2X Seagate 7200.10 250G $79.99 ea $160http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822148141Case Thermaltake Soprano $74.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811133147Power Supply Xclio Goodpower 500wATX $48.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817189005Cooler Arctic Freezer 7 Pro $29.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16835186134( I only plan to over clock to about 3 to 3.2 GHZ)Display 19” Philips CRT monitor $198.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16824133167( No, I don’t want a LCD. I use several different resolutions and LCD’s only arefairly passable in their native resolution. I have a Dell LCD at work and hate it!)DVD R/W Samsung 18X $28.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16827151133Mouse A4tech NB50 wireless, no batteries $22.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16826129132(no more breaking mouse cords)Keyboard Benq X800 $12.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16823121113WinXP home upqrade (from 98SE) $99.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16837116194Modem and floppy from old system, On-Board sound for now.Total so far $1710.89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripken204 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 lucky you may i suggest a slightly better vid card?http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....;SubCategory=48pretty good deals on the 7900gt right now. as for hdd, why ide!!!http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822148140http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822148144these are amazing drives ^^^my friend has that case, seems like its built well, his has a window so its kinda loud.im not too sure about that power supply. i would recommend an enermax liberty or ocz gamexstream but those would cost 2x as much...great dvd drive here:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16827152058now if u really wanted to save some money, you could get an e6300 or e6400. thats if you dont mind losing 2mb worth of cache. but the performance and overclock is still as good. and since u dont plan to overclock much at all, i dont really see the point of the e6600.http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....SubCategory=343here is a nice 2mb vs 4mb comparison:http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/07/1...ocessors/5.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJM Posted October 20, 2006 Author Share Posted October 20, 2006 (edited) Ripkin204, you're right about the hard drives that is what I meant to link to, I just saw the 7200.10http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822148144Video Card, the 7900gt might be a better ideahttp://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=36&page=9In Oblivion, it's only saving grace, the performance was quite impressive. The X1900 GT outperformed the 7900 GT by a large margin and instead traded blows with the X1800 XT 256MB. Sadly the X1900 GT performed rather poorly in the next three games, FEAR, HL2, and COD2. Most notable of these was FEAR, the 7900 GT was clearly faster and not just by a few frames per second, in fact a stock 7800 GT was faster in FEAR than the X1900 GT. Power supplyhttp://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/829/1/pag...tion/index.htmlDVD - The only difference that I see is that the Samsung doe 18XDVD-R andthe NEC only does 16XDVD-RThanks for the reply, Any other recomendations for a case? Edited October 20, 2006 by RJM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puntoMX Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Those Thermaltake Soprano cases are really toys, flimsy cheap looking build. i would make an other choice if I was you. Did you look at the Coolermaster cases? Spending 1700+ bucks on a system and having a cheap *ss build case, that’s some thing I would not do . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJM Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 (edited) I looked into the 7900gt and it seems there are a lot of heat related problems.http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard...?TOPIC_ID=14558And I'm still wondering about the case (I still have 3 weeks to go before I order, hopefuly RAM will drop a little more. )Updated SystemCPU Core2 duo E6600 $313http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819115003Motherboard ASUS P5W DH Deluxe $249.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813131025Memory Gskill F2-6400-CL4D-2GBPK $249.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820231087Asus EAX1900xt 256 $269.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814121029 <------Hard drives 2X Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS $160http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822148144Case Lian Li PC-g50B $89.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811112104 <------Power Supply Xclio Goodpower 500wATX $49.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817189005Cooler Arctic Freezer 7 Pro $29.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16835186134( I only plan to over clock to about 3 to 3.2 GHZ)Display 19” Philips CRT monitor $198.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16824133167( No, I don’t want a LCD. I use several different resolutions and LCD’s only arefairly passable in their native resolution. I have a Dell LCD at work and hate it!)DVD R/W Samsung 18X $28.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16827151133Mouse A4tech NB50 wireless, no batteries $22.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16826129132(no more breaking mouse cords)Keyboard Benq X800 $12.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16823121113WinXP home with Vista upgrade coupon $89.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16832116169Modem and floppy from old system, On-Board sound for now.Total so far $1767It's been a while since my last post - modem problems. Edited October 27, 2006 by RJM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puntoMX Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 I would reconsider that case; you don’t want your power supply on top of your cooler, looks more like a PII case to me from the old times .That mouse... I don’t know, its A4 tech and to tell you the truth they are cheap *ss to me. Nothing you like from Logitech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJM Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 PuntoMXAny good recommendations for a case? The reason I went with A4 tech is thatThe mouse is cordless and without batteries. They are the only ones that I could findthat were cordless and without batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puntoMX Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Some thing like:COOLER MASTER Praetorian 730 RC-730-KSN1 Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail at NewEggLIAN LI PC-61 USB Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail at NewEggThose are great cases, I personally like the Coolermaster more because of it’s design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripken204 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 I looked into the 7900gt and it seems there are a lot of heat related problems.http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard...?TOPIC_ID=14558thats with the first models of the card. evga's latest model works just fine.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811112099this case is nice too, it has 2x120mm fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puntoMX Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811112099this case is nice too, it has 2x120mm fans2 12cm fans are nice but the case isn’t the real LIAN LI quality that you would expect trough . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripken204 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 how so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jftuga Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Two 12cm fans are going to be VERY loud. I have a system that has two of these...it is so loud, I hardly ever used this system because of this.-John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puntoMX Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 how so?Doesn’t have the same look and feel; Materials are different and way cheaper build then the "real" Lian Li cases.Two 12cm fans are going to be VERY loud. I have a system that has two of these...it is so loud, I hardly ever used this system because of this.-JohnGet some new ones John, that make only 18dB/A (together that will be 21dB/A ). It could be the air in / out- takes that are not well designed. What case do you have any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcarle Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 No no no! This is all wrong! Do yourself a favor, get yourself an Antec case. ANYTHING that Antec makes in cases is reliable. So you can pretty much pick anything on their website and feel safe that you're buying quality no matter which model you pick.If you want a simple, quality case that includes a good sized (400W) reliable power supply without any bling bling, then you an excellent suggestion would be the Antec TX640B NewEgg.As for ram, I'd see if you can afford to move up to 1066MHz memory. Then you'd be running clock for clock with the CPU. You will see more of a difference with a 266MHz boost in memory speed then you will in low timings.Hard drives, same price will buy you 320GB Western Digitals with 16MB cache.With the money you'd save by having a reliable power supply come with the suggested case above, you could get a much much better CPU cooler/heatsink. I HIGHLY recommend the Zalman CNPS9500.I'd suggest a BFG 7950GT for your video card. At the risk of creating a heated debate. 90% of games run better on nVidia hardware nowadays.All around great burner at a good price is the Pioneer DVR-111D.And if you're going to shell out so much for a box, you should at least put a bit more into your comfort. Get yourself a nice keyboard and mouse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puntoMX Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 No no no! This is all wrong! ...Why that , Antec is nice but they are outdated, there power supplies rule still.Why buy another cooler when the stock cooler is good? The new ones are not that noisy.The cooler from AC works better then the stock cooler at a lower dB/A and can compete to the Zalman . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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