Spock Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 I hope someone can help me out because after a week of research I still haven't got definitive answers. To narrow it down a bit I'm looking at Socket 754 mobos/Sempron processor, and would use ATA (not SATA) hard disk.Nvidia NForce 4 chipset mobos: according to at least two manufacturers (MSI and Asus) no win98/SE drivers are provided. IIRC the MSI site says not supported. So, no go for these, apparently.NVidia NForce 3 chipset mobos: This seems more promising and i'm currently looking at a Netconn mobo, NF3250K8AA.Via chipset mobos: Think I'll probably avoid.Any help appreciated. I'd hate to build a system only to find that win98SE would not work properly.
Chozo4 Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 (edited) *NForce 4 I've yet to see any drivers supplied for.*NForce 3 I can confirm work as I'm using one right now (board and specs in sig).Intel Chipsets works under win98 as well as my laptop used the chipset (toshiba A15-S157).ViA as far as I know still support 98 but you might have to do extra research.*=Many NForce hardware are installed using standard win98 drivers.Perhaps check the board manufacturers site and see what drivers for what Operating Systems they supply. If possible, get a list of the hardware + branding of each component on the board and check the manufacturer of that hardware as well for drivers.Wish you luck building a new system for win98 ^^I checked the specs of the FOXCONN 'NF3250K8AA' board you mentioned. You should do very well with it as a choice. Foxconn provides a full range of drivers for windows98 and above. Just make sure the CPU you get supports the X86 instruction set if you consider a 64-bit CPU. All AMD cpu's seem to support it while [i haven't looked lately] Intel 64-bit CPU's might not have support for the x86 instruction set.As a note: Unless you have powered speakers, the onboard surround will be a big dissappointment. Very weak pre-amps on built-in sound solutions nowadays. I too have a REALTEK ac'97 surround built in. Now got it turned off in BIOS because it didn't meet my satisfaction. Edited March 8, 2006 by Chozo4
LLXX Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 Just make sure the CPU you get supports the X86 instruction set if you consider a 64-bit CPU. All AMD cpu's seem to support it while [i haven't looked lately] Intel 64-bit CPU's might not have support for the x86 instruction set.All CPUs are backwards compatible; the Intel 64-bit CPUs (Celeron and Pentium Ds) can run 16,32,and 64-bit code.
RJARRRPCGP Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 I hope someone can help me out because after a week of research I still haven't got definitive answers. To narrow it down a bit I'm looking at Socket 754 mobos/Sempron processor, and would use ATA (not SATA) hard disk.Nvidia NForce 4 chipset mobos: according to at least two manufacturers (MSI and Asus) no win98/SE drivers are provided. IIRC the MSI site says not supported. So, no go for these, apparently.NVidia NForce 3 chipset mobos: This seems more promising and i'm currently looking at a Netconn mobo, NF3250K8AA.Via chipset mobos: Think I'll probably avoid.Any help appreciated. I'd hate to build a system only to find that win98SE would not work properly.Via actually is one of the better ones for Windows 98. nForce is actually more likely to have compatibility problems with Windows 98.
Chozo4 Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 Just make sure the CPU you get supports the X86 instruction set if you consider a 64-bit CPU. All AMD cpu's seem to support it while [i haven't looked lately] Intel 64-bit CPU's might not have support for the x86 instruction set.All CPUs are backwards compatible; the Intel 64-bit CPUs (Celeron and Pentium Ds) can run 16,32,and 64-bit code.Thank you for correcting me there LLXX. As said, i haven't looked lately but was still going by the ole myth from the past of intel 64's only supporting the 64-bit instruction set.
Spock Posted March 10, 2006 Author Posted March 10, 2006 *NForce 4 I've yet to see any drivers supplied for.*NForce 3 I can confirm work as I'm using one right now (board and specs in sig).Intel Chipsets works under win98 as well as my laptop used the chipset (toshiba A15-S157).ViA as far as I know still support 98 but you might have to do extra research.*=Many NForce hardware are installed using standard win98 drivers.Perhaps check the board manufacturers site and see what drivers for what Operating Systems they supply. If possible, get a list of the hardware + branding of each component on the board and check the manufacturer of that hardware as well for drivers.Wish you luck building a new system for win98 ^^I checked the specs of the FOXCONN 'NF3250K8AA' board you mentioned. You should do very well with it as a choice. Foxconn provides a full range of drivers for windows98 and above. Just make sure the CPU you get supports the X86 instruction set if you consider a 64-bit CPU. All AMD cpu's seem to support it while [i haven't looked lately] Intel 64-bit CPU's might not have support for the x86 instruction set.As a note: Unless you have powered speakers, the onboard surround will be a big dissappointment. Very weak pre-amps on built-in sound solutions nowadays. I too have a REALTEK ac'97 surround built in. Now got it turned off in BIOS because it didn't meet my satisfaction.Thanks. Very helpful. Agree with you on the sound. Had already decided to get a PCI sound card or transplant current one. I've taken the plunge and ordered the above mobo. Comes at quite a premium here in the UK (only one supplier, all others sold out). Foxconn actually gave a reply to a querry I made concerning whether they are/are not supporting this mobo BIOS. Yes, they are. So that's good news. Now to find a compatible AGP8 graphics card. I'll stick with Nvidia to boost chances that it'll actually boot B) I'd like a GeForce6200 but haven't found any Nvidia drivers that definitely support it. Any ideas?*NForce 4 I've yet to see any drivers supplied for.*NForce 3 I can confirm work as I'm using one right now (board and specs in sig).Intel Chipsets works under win98 as well as my laptop used the chipset (toshiba A15-S157).ViA as far as I know still support 98 but you might have to do extra research.*=Many NForce hardware are installed using standard win98 drivers.Perhaps check the board manufacturers site and see what drivers for what Operating Systems they supply. If possible, get a list of the hardware + branding of each component on the board and check the manufacturer of that hardware as well for drivers.Wish you luck building a new system for win98 ^^I checked the specs of the FOXCONN 'NF3250K8AA' board you mentioned. You should do very well with it as a choice. Foxconn provides a full range of drivers for windows98 and above. Just make sure the CPU you get supports the X86 instruction set if you consider a 64-bit CPU. All AMD cpu's seem to support it while [i haven't looked lately] Intel 64-bit CPU's might not have support for the x86 instruction set.As a note: Unless you have powered speakers, the onboard surround will be a big dissappointment. Very weak pre-amps on built-in sound solutions nowadays. I too have a REALTEK ac'97 surround built in. Now got it turned off in BIOS because it didn't meet my satisfaction.Thanks. Very helpful. Agree with you on the sound. Had already decided to get a PCI sound card or transplant current one. I've taken the plunge and ordered the above mobo. Comes at quite a premium here in the UK (only one supplier, all others sold out). Foxconn actually gave a reply to a querry I made concerning whether they are/are not supporting this mobo BIOS. Yes, they are. So that's good news. Now to find a compatible AGP8 graphics card. I'll stick with Nvidia to boost chances that it'll actually boot B) I'd like a GeForce6200 but haven't found any Nvidia drivers that definitely support it. Any ideas?
miko Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 stock 6800 128MBand there should be driver support (could you perhaps explain that a little more),most of the nVidia drivers i have above 61.34 support 6800s anyway (if you went that route)afaik unlike the 6200 (thats the 6600s little sister card right ?) and 6600 (PCI-E),the 6800 was designed for AGP so doesn't need a 'bridge chip' (on its AGP version)this means (basically) there's less to go wrong this extra instalation of extra chip/heat arrangements on cards with bridge chips are easily exacerbated by having various heat sink/fan arrangements fitted by different manufacturers.anyway the basic idea is AGP native cards are probably best in AGP setups6800 (and its high end versions) are (afaik) the last nVidia AGP native cardgood prices (currently), good cards (imo)hthmiko.PS. check your messages
Petr Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 Now to find a compatible AGP8 graphics card. I'll stick with Nvidia to boost chances that it'll actually boot B) I'd like a GeForce6200 but haven't found any Nvidia drivers that definitely support it. Any ideas?Nvidia Windows 98 driver (81.98) officially supports the following GeForce6 AGP cards:NVIDIA GeForce 6200NVIDIA GeForce 6600NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GTNVIDIA GeForce 6600 LENVIDIA GeForce 6800NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LENVIDIA GeForce 6800 XENVIDIA GeForce 6800 GTNVIDIA GeForce 6800 XTNVIDIA GeForce 6800 UltraPetr
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 (edited) ? Edited March 10, 2006 by PROBLEMCHYLD
Spock Posted March 10, 2006 Author Posted March 10, 2006 Now to find a compatible AGP8 graphics card. I'll stick with Nvidia to boost chances that it'll actually boot B) I'd like a GeForce6200 but haven't found any Nvidia drivers that definitely support it. Any ideas?Nvidia Windows 98 driver (81.98) officially supports the following GeForce6 AGP cards:NVIDIA GeForce 6200NVIDIA GeForce 6600NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GTNVIDIA GeForce 6600 LENVIDIA GeForce 6800NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LENVIDIA GeForce 6800 XENVIDIA GeForce 6800 GTNVIDIA GeForce 6800 XTNVIDIA GeForce 6800 UltraPetrWell, that's what they imply in one place. **However** if one downloads aforesaid 81.98 as I optimistically did this morning (UK time), an unpack it, the Readme says (in part):Operating systems supported---------------------------Microsoft Windows 98Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (Windows Me)Adapters supported------------------NVIDIA RIVA TNTNVIDIA RIVA TNT2NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 ProNVIDIA RIVA TNT2 UltraNVIDIA VantaNVIDIA Vanta LTNVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64 ProNVIDIA Aladdin TNT2NVIDIA GeForce 256NVIDIA GeForce DDRNVIDIA QuadroNVIDIA GeForce2 MXNVIDIA GeForce2 MX 200NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 400NVIDIA Quadro2 MXRNVIDIA Quadro2 EXNVIDIA GeForce2 GTSNVIDIA GeForce2 ProNVIDIA GeForce2 TiNVIDIA GeForce2 UltraNVIDIA GeForce2 Integrated GPUNVIDIA Quadro2 ProNVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440-SENVIDIA GeForce4 MX 460NVIDIA Quadro NVSNVIDIA Quadro4 500 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGLNVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPUNVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 with AGP8XNVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8XNVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8XNVIDIA Quadro4 NVS with AGP8XNVIDIA Quadro4 380 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 580 XGLNVIDIA GeForce3NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 500NVIDIA Quadro DCCNVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8XNVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800 SENVIDIA Quadro4 700 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 750 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 900 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 780 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 980 XGLNVIDIA GeForce FX 5800NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800 UltraNVIDIA Quadro FX 1000NVIDIA Quadro FX 2000Not a mention of the 6200. I'm not sure what to conclude. Any further ideas? While on this topic, I guess it's always better to download the manufacturer's driver rather than Nvidia; e.g. I'd download a graphics driver from Gainward for their Nvidia based cards.
Petr Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 (edited) Now to find a compatible AGP8 graphics card. I'll stick with Nvidia to boost chances that it'll actually boot B) I'd like a GeForce6200 but haven't found any Nvidia drivers that definitely support it. Any ideas?Nvidia Windows 98 driver (81.98) officially supports the following GeForce6 AGP cards:NVIDIA GeForce 6200NVIDIA GeForce 6600NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GTNVIDIA GeForce 6600 LENVIDIA GeForce 6800NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LENVIDIA GeForce 6800 XENVIDIA GeForce 6800 GTNVIDIA GeForce 6800 XTNVIDIA GeForce 6800 UltraPetrWell, that's what they imply in one place. **However** if one downloads aforesaid 81.98 as I optimistically did this morning (UK time), an unpack it, the Readme says (in part):Operating systems supported---------------------------Microsoft Windows 98Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (Windows Me)Adapters supported------------------NVIDIA RIVA TNT............NVIDIA Quadro FX 2000Not a mention of the 6200. I'm not sure what to conclude. Any further ideas? While on this topic, I guess it's always better to download the manufacturer's driver rather than Nvidia; e.g. I'd download a graphics driver from Gainward for their Nvidia based cards.This list of adapters in my post was taken for the INF file, i.e. it is the most accurate.Another reliable source are Release Notes (v81.98).Petr Edited March 10, 2006 by Petr
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