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@MDGx:

I've a problem with 98se2me...

after installation of option 1, control volume in sounds and multimedia is disabled.

Then, I don't succeed to remember reproduction and recorder devices, in tab voice, clicking on Apply.

This is a general problem of localized version of 98se2me....

it is happened also in english version?

THX.

PS: Italian localization of 98se2me is fully updated with your last update.

I've tried with Microsoft Windows ME Control Panel Sounds + Multimedia Tool Errors MMSYS.CPL 4.90.3001 Fix and Microsoft Windows 98 SE Disabled Sounds + USB Devices WINMM.DLL 4.03.2201 Fix.

After extraction, I've installed infs, no change, same issue.

Maybe I must remove 98se2me modifications, to install 98 SP + Microsoft Windows 98 SE Disabled Sounds + USB Devices WINMM.DLL 4.03.2201 Fix and then to reinstall option 1 of 98se2ME?

No, tried also this....

Problem is occured during installation of 700 win ME files.

I'm not sure to 100%, but these problems are present also in english version.

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jus' luvin' all this work and effort in this package....... but methinks i do have a wish....

in the windows restart drop down menu is it possible to 'see' RESTART IN SAFE MODE..... as opposed to the F8 key or using meconfig...???

Not possible, unless you're willing to hex-edit C:\IO.SYS .

And 98SE2ME does not replace IO.SYS, because the 1 from WinME is incompatible [again, without hex-edit].

Please see this guide for more details:

http://www.mdgx.com/msdos.htm#MEN

HTH

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@MDGx:

I've a problem with 98se2me...

after installation of option 1, control volume in sounds and multimedia is disabled.

Then, I don't succeed to remember reproduction and recorder devices, in tab voice, clicking on Apply.

This is a general problem of localized version of 98se2me....

it is happened also in english version?

THX.

PS: Italian localization of 98se2me is fully updated with your last update.

I've tried with Microsoft Windows ME Control Panel Sounds + Multimedia Tool Errors MMSYS.CPL 4.90.3001 Fix and Microsoft Windows 98 SE Disabled Sounds + USB Devices WINMM.DLL 4.03.2201 Fix.

After extraction, I've installed infs, no change, same issue.

Maybe I must remove 98se2me modifications, to install 98 SP + Microsoft Windows 98 SE Disabled Sounds + USB Devices WINMM.DLL 4.03.2201 Fix and then to reinstall option 1 of 98se2ME?

No, tried also this....

Problem is occured during installation of 700 win ME files.

This has to do with your sound card drivers, which may need [depending on the particular sound card you have] to be reinstalled after you installed 98SE2ME.

This is because 98SE2ME options 1, 2 + 8 replace [among other files] the *.SYS files in %windir%\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS with newer WinME drivers [WDM style].

I'm afraid that there is no fix for this problem. ;-(

HTH

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@MDGx:

I've a problem with 98se2me...

after installation of option 1, control volume in sounds and multimedia is disabled.

Then, I don't succeed to remember reproduction and recorder devices, in tab voice, clicking on Apply.

This is a general problem of localized version of 98se2me....

it is happened also in english version?

THX.

PS: Italian localization of 98se2me is fully updated with your last update.

I've tried with Microsoft Windows ME Control Panel Sounds + Multimedia Tool Errors MMSYS.CPL 4.90.3001 Fix and Microsoft Windows 98 SE Disabled Sounds + USB Devices WINMM.DLL 4.03.2201 Fix.

After extraction, I've installed infs, no change, same issue.

Maybe I must remove 98se2me modifications, to install 98 SP + Microsoft Windows 98 SE Disabled Sounds + USB Devices WINMM.DLL 4.03.2201 Fix and then to reinstall option 1 of 98se2ME?

No, tried also this....

Problem is occured during installation of 700 win ME files.

This has to do with your sound card drivers, which may need [depending on the particular sound card you have] to be reinstalled after you installed 98SE2ME.

This is because 98SE2ME options 1, 2 + 8 replace [among other files] the *.SYS files in %windir%\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS with newer WinME drivers [WDM style].

I'm afraid that there is no fix for this problem. ;-(

HTH

Sorry, my contact hasn't solved this problem (reinstalling old&new drivers for win98se of Avance AC'97, sound card is integrated in mobo).

The system is K6 II 450@500 on motherboard MS-5187, 512 MB ram and HDD 60 GB.

If you are any idea... or you can create one option to exclude replacing of *.SYS files in %windir%\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS with newer WinME drivers.

Ah, I've tried with my machine Pentium II 400, win98se + 98se2me (sound card: soundblaster live value), the problem is identical, drivers reinstallation is useless.

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Sorry, my contact hasn't solved this problem (reinstalling old&new drivers for win98se of Avance AC'97, sound card is integrated in mobo).

The system is K6 II 450@500 on motherboard MS-5187, 512 MB ram and HDD 60 GB.

If you are any idea... or you can create one option to exclude replacing of *.SYS files in %windir%\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS with newer WinME drivers.

Ah, I've tried with my machine Pentium II 400, win98se + 98se2me (sound card: soundblaster live value), the problem is identical, drivers reinstallation is useless.

All I can do is create a new option to install WinME files without USB/WDM/FireWire *.SYS files [basically without option 8] in the near future.

Stay tuned, I'll post it here when it's done.

HTH

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I notice after installing 98SE2ME that C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS still

has older files versions like explorer.exe for example.

Will it be wise to replace those as well with newer version, just curious?

OPTIONS\CABS directory is there for backup purposes only, for when you install Windows components, accessories, network items, drivers etc, and contains original system files from the Win98 SE setup CD-ROM compressed in CAB format.

I don't recommend to replace those CABs or files inside them with other versions.

But what you can do, is zip up all [newer] system files you want into a new CAB, call it something like MY98SE.CAB , and place it in C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS .

This way, whenever you install some drivers, components etc, the installation routine [usually based on INF files] will search also thru your custom CAB file(s), and will find newer system files. And if the install routine is properly built, newer files will not be overwritten by older ones [you should get a prompt dialog box to select if you want newer file(s) to be overwritten by older one(s) or not].

Gape's 98SE SP2 also uses this method, SP2.CAB contains all newer files installed by SP2, and copies this CAB to your %windir%\INF directory, if I recall correctly. This way, whenever you install components, drivers etc, newer files from SP2 will be installed instead of older files from original CABs.

HTH

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@MDGX:

A great problem, selecting two times option 2 (win me files without wdm drivers), I've still problem of volume disabled in sounds and multimedia......

This is on a pc win98se (fresh installation) with soundblaster 16 live value drivers correctly installed.

Maybe you must edit something...

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Which Enable48BitLBA patch would you use with 98SE2ME, the 98SE or ME version? I had the 98SE LBA patch on my system already then ran the 98SE2ME full load, no problems just wondering.

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Just check the current version of esdi_506.pdr after having installed 98SE2ME and apply the patch accordingly, if needed. I.e. if the current version is 4.90.3000, then apply the ME patch; if it's 4.10.2222/4.10.2225(6), then apply the 98SE one.

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Just check the current version of esdi_506.pdr after having installed 98SE2ME and apply the patch accordingly, if needed. I.e. if the current version is 4.90.3000, then apply the ME patch; if it's 4.10.2222/4.10.2225(6), then apply the 98SE one.

Thanks!

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Which Enable48BitLBA patch would you use with 98SE2ME, the 98SE or ME version? I had the 98SE LBA patch on my system already then ran the 98SE2ME full load, no problems just wondering.
As stated in the 98SE2ME READ1ST.TXT guide [please see the "FAQ" section]:

READ1ST.TXT

none of the files installed by 98SE2ME change the OS core or kernel from 98 SE to ME.

Therefore Win98 SE OS remains the same Win98 SE OS, WinME core/kernel/drivers files won't work, they will only lock up your computer.

* Windows 98 SE OS build/edition/release/revision/version does NOT change no

matter which NOR how many (hot)fixes/patches/updates/service packs/etc you

install, including SP2, 98SE2ME, 98MP10, NUSB, MDCU, WUPG, RP, KernelXP etc.

That is because Windows 98 SE specific core system files like KERNEL32.DLL,

KRNL386.EXE or IO.SYS canNOT and should NOT be replaced with Windows ME

counterparts. If you do replace any of them, your OS will lock up.

Please see the list of Win98 SE system files that should NEVER be replaced:

http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#NEVER

Therefore when installing MS Windows Updates from:

WU:

http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

WUC:

http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/

and/or MS (security) patches and/or (hot)fixes:

http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#98SE

http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/ietoy.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/wmp.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/dx.htm

you will be able, just as before, to install ONLY system files created

specifically for Windows 98 SE, and MOST ALL OTHERS (except certain hardware

drivers designed for all Windows 95/98/ME releases) will probably be rejected.

Moreover, this link [found in the quote above]:

http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#NEVER

clearly states:

Do NOT replace ANY of these original Win98 SE system files with their WinME

counterparts because your OS/programs WILL STOP WORKING PROPERLY IF YOU DO:

ANY files from C:\Windows\System\Iosubsys (except NTMAPHLP.PDR + USBMPHLP.PDR)

HTH [Hope This Helps]
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@MDGX:

A great problem, selecting two times option 2 (win me files without wdm drivers), I've still problem of volume disabled in sounds and multimedia......

This is on a pc win98se (fresh installation) with soundblaster 16 live value drivers correctly installed.

Maybe you must edit something...

Have you tried to install option 9 [the new option without WDM drivers]?

Option 2 does install the WDM drivers [*.SYS] into %windir%\system32\drivers , but option 9 does not.

Quoted from READ1ST.TXT [the "98SE2ME.PIF COMPLETE GUIDE" section]:

READ1ST.TXT

How to install option 9:

Start button -> Programs -> 98SE2ME -> "98SE2ME.PIF - MAIN PROGRAM" shortcut

or (double-)click on C:\9!M\98SE2ME.PIF or (double-)click on

"C:\Program Files\98SE2ME\98SE2ME.PIF - MAIN PROGRAM.PIF" -> press Y -> press

2 -> press 2 -> wait for reboot.

HTH
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@MDGX:

A great problem, selecting two times option 2 (win me files without wdm drivers), I've still problem of volume disabled in sounds and multimedia......

This is on a pc win98se (fresh installation) with soundblaster 16 live value drivers correctly installed.

Maybe you must edit something...

Have you tried to install option 9 [the new option without WDM drivers]?

Option 2 does install the WDM drivers [*.SYS] into %windir%\system32\drivers , but option 9 does not.

Quoted from READ1ST.TXT [the "98SE2ME.PIF COMPLETE GUIDE" section]:

READ1ST.TXT

How to install option 9:

Start button -> Programs -> 98SE2ME -> "98SE2ME.PIF - MAIN PROGRAM" shortcut

or (double-)click on C:\9!M\98SE2ME.PIF or (double-)click on

"C:\Program Files\98SE2ME\98SE2ME.PIF - MAIN PROGRAM.PIF" -> press Y -> press

2 -> press 2 -> wait for reboot.

HTH

Unfortunately I've followed instructions, but the problem remains.

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Which Enable48BitLBA patch would you use with 98SE2ME, the 98SE or ME version? I had the 98SE LBA patch on my system already then ran the 98SE2ME full load, no problems just wondering.
As stated in the 98SE2ME READ1ST.TXT guide [please see the "FAQ" section]:

READ1ST.TXT

none of the files installed by 98SE2ME change the OS core or kernel from 98 SE to ME.

Therefore Win98 SE OS remains the same Win98 SE OS, WinME core/kernel/drivers files won't work, they will only lock up your computer.

* Windows 98 SE OS build/edition/release/revision/version does NOT change no

matter which NOR how many (hot)fixes/patches/updates/service packs/etc you

install, including SP2, 98SE2ME, 98MP10, NUSB, MDCU, WUPG, RP, KernelXP etc.

That is because Windows 98 SE specific core system files like KERNEL32.DLL,

KRNL386.EXE or IO.SYS canNOT and should NOT be replaced with Windows ME

counterparts. If you do replace any of them, your OS will lock up.

Please see the list of Win98 SE system files that should NEVER be replaced:

http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#NEVER

Therefore when installing MS Windows Updates from:

WU:

http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

WUC:

http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/

and/or MS (security) patches and/or (hot)fixes:

http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#98SE

http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/ietoy.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/wmp.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/dx.htm

you will be able, just as before, to install ONLY system files created

specifically for Windows 98 SE, and MOST ALL OTHERS (except certain hardware

drivers designed for all Windows 95/98/ME releases) will probably be rejected.

Moreover, this link [found in the quote above]:

http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#NEVER

clearly states:

Do NOT replace ANY of these original Win98 SE system files with their WinME

counterparts because your OS/programs WILL STOP WORKING PROPERLY IF YOU DO:

ANY files from C:\Windows\System\Iosubsys (except NTMAPHLP.PDR + USBMPHLP.PDR)

HTH [Hope This Helps]

Thanks MDGx

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