Petr Posted May 3, 2005 Posted May 3, 2005 Petrbad news have U compared registry info from WinSE and WinXP for Mitsumi?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>It is absolutely different. Now I prepare installation of WinME.Petr
Petr Posted May 3, 2005 Posted May 3, 2005 So the Misumi USB Floppy drive works well on freshly installed Windows ME.I have compared registers and nothing very special found. Here are some differences but I don't know what they mean - if anything:Win98 SE + nusb2.2[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\USBSTOR\SFLOPPY&VEN_MITSUMI&PROD_USB_FDD&REV_1050\USB&VID_03EE&PID_6901&INST_0]"Capabilities"=hex:14,00,00,00WinME: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\USBSTOR\SFLOPPY&VEN_MITSUMI&PROD_USB_FDD&REV_1050\USB&VID_03EE&PID_6901&INST_0]"Capabilities"=hex:00,00,00,00Win98 SE + nusb2.2[HKEY_DYN_DATA\Config Manager\Enum\C2A168E0]"HardWareKey"="USBSTOR\\SFLOPPY&VEN_MITSUMI&PROD_USB_FDD&REV_1050\\USB&VID_03EE&PID_6901&INST_0""Problem"=hex:0b,00,00,00WinME: [HKEY_DYN_DATA\Config Manager\Enum\C1C798F0]"HardWareKey"="USBSTOR\\SFLOPPY&VEN_MITSUMI&PROD_USB_FDD&REV_1050\\USB&VID_03EE&PID_6901&INST_0""Problem"=hex:00,00,00,00What to try next?Petr
b1ghappyface Posted May 4, 2005 Posted May 4, 2005 Hello Hello,I'm pretty much ignant about USB stuff....If I were to exe this on an old PC that has USB 1.1 hardwired into the mobo, will that get it to work with all USB 2.0 devices? I just had a hassle with iPod mini 1.3 recently, trying to get it to work with Win 98 and USB 1.1 ....got it to work, but ended up getting a cheap USB 2.0 PCI card (and had to format the iPod on an XP system)...would this Native USB ver.2.2 have somehow done the trick with the iPod mini, on a system that had 1.1 USB?Any reading material that would enlighten me further to what this does, how it does it, etc, would be appreciated. Or is that included in the downloadable exe file?
b1ghappyface Posted May 4, 2005 Posted May 4, 2005 ah, FLASH devices...so it wouldn't do jack for an iPOD then, since thats a disc device?
eGo®Z Posted May 4, 2005 Posted May 4, 2005 Petri think U've tried to correct registry like in WinMe...some questions:1. have U tried to install NUSB on fresh install of win98se without any SP?2. have U installed NUSB in a system with previously installed original Mitsumi usb drivers or any other USB drivers? In any case any other drivers should be removed before install NUSB, and, of course it's very important to clear registry (USBSTOR and USB sections), especially if NUSB1.0-1.3 was installed before.... and ... i have a dream to touch it with my hands very strange situation
eGo®Z Posted May 4, 2005 Posted May 4, 2005 ah, FLASH devices...so it wouldn't do jack for an iPOD then, since thats a disc device?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>try it - in the most cases it works, of course if U have installed English Win98SE
Acheron Posted May 8, 2005 Posted May 8, 2005 I have problems with a Sweex 16-in-1 card reader:It makes use of a USBSys9x.SYS file as 2.0 Card Reader device. System hangs when the device is connected and this driver is not installed:Here's the inf and sys file attached. It's useful to include.:[Version]Signature="$CHICAGO$"Class=USBprovider=%VENDOR%[Manufacturer]%MfgName%=GENERIC[GENERIC]%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0001.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0001%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0002.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0002%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0003.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0003%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0005.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0005%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0008.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0008%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0009.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0009%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_000A.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_000A%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_000B.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_000B%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_1001.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_1001%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0101.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0101%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0102.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0102%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0301.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0301%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0302.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0302%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2001.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2001%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2002.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2002%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2003.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2003%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2005.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2005%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2006.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2006%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2007.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2007%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2008.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2008%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2013.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2013%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2014.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2014%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2023.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2023%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2024.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2024%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2026.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2026%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2027.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2027%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2321.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2321%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2318.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2318%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2315.DeviceDesc%=USBSYS9X.Dev,USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2315[PreCopySection]HKR,,NoSetupUI,,1[DestinationDirs]USBSYS9X.Files.Ext=10,System32\Driversusbdsk9x.Files.Ext=12[USBSYS9X.Dev]CopyFiles=USBSYS9X.Files.Ext,usbdsk9x.Files.ExtAddReg=USBSYS9X.AddReg[USBSYS9X.AddReg]HKR,,DevLoader,,*ntkernHKR,,NTMPDriver,,USBSys9x.SYS; 0(default) indicate all disks are removable disk.; 1 indicate this first disk is floppy, the others are removable disk.; 2 indicate this second disk is floppy, the others are removable disk.HKLM,"Enum\USBSYS9X\DISK",,0x00000,0 ;HKLM,"Enum\USBSYS9X\DISK",,0x00000,1 ;HKLM,"Enum\USBSYS9X\DISK",,0x00000,2 HKR,,EnumPropPages,,storpg98.dll;HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\USB\0087[USBSYS9X.Dev.HW]AddReg=USBSYS9XHWAddReg[USBSYS9XHWAddReg]HKR,,DriverVersion,,"V1.0"HKR,,FirmwareBCD,,"V1.0"[USBSYS9X.Files.Ext];USBSys9x.sys[SourceDisksNames]1000="USB Driver Disk","",,[SourceDisksFiles]USBSYS9X.SYS=1000USBDSK9X.PDR=1000;---------------------------------------------------------------;[Strings]VENDOR="GENERIC"MfgName="GENERIC"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0001.DeviceDesc="Multi-Card Reader 6in1"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0002.DeviceDesc="Multi-Card Reader 7in1"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0003.DeviceDesc="Flash Disk"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0005.DeviceDesc="Internal Multi-Card Reader 6in1"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0008.DeviceDesc="SD Single Card Reader"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0009.DeviceDesc="MS Single Card Reader"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_000A.DeviceDesc="MS+SD Dual Card Reader"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_000B.DeviceDesc="SM Single Card Reader"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_1001.DeviceDesc="Multi-Flash Disk"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0101.DeviceDesc="All-In-One Card Reader"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0102.DeviceDesc="All-In-One Card Reader"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0301.DeviceDesc="MP3 Player"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_0302.DeviceDesc="MultiCard MP3 Player"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2001.DeviceDesc="Multi-Card Reader"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2002.DeviceDesc="Q018 default PID"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2003.DeviceDesc="Multi-Card Reader"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2005.DeviceDesc="Multi-Card Reader"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2006.DeviceDesc="All-In-One Card Reader"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2007.DeviceDesc="USB 2.0 to ATAPI bridge"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2008.DeviceDesc="All-In-One Card Reader"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2013.DeviceDesc="USB 2.0 SD/MS Combo Card Reader"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2014.DeviceDesc="USB 2.0 SD/MS Single Card Reader"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2023.DeviceDesc="USB 2.0 card reader SD/MS DEMO board with ICSI brand name (MaskROM version)"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2024.DeviceDesc="USB 2.0 card reader SD/MS DEMO board with Generic brand name (MaskROM version)"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2026.DeviceDesc="USB 2.0 card reader DEMO board with ICSI brand name (MaskROM version)"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2027.DeviceDesc="USB 2.0 card reader DEMO board with Generic brand name (MaskROM version)"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2321.DeviceDesc="USB 2.0 UFD MP3 player"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2318.DeviceDesc="USB 2.0 UFD MP3 player (model 1)"USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2315.DeviceDesc="USB 2.0 UFD MP3 player (model 2)"USBSYS9X.zip
eGo®Z Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Here's the inf and sys file attached. It's useful to include.:good idea, but it should be tested before,from that inf i can't understand what type of devices is described in - BulkOnly, CB or CBI and what protocol is used.to describe it in inf i need CompatibleIDs values for each device from the inf U've provided, something like that:DeviceDesc = USB Mass Storage DeviceHardwareID = USB\Vid_0ea0&Pid_2118&Rev_0200CompatibleIDs = USB\Class_08&SubClass_06&Prot_50It can be found in USB Section of Your Windows registry.and, perhaps, some addon info
bizzybody Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Woohooooo! Thank you for this driver package!I can finally use my KB Gear JamP3 MP3 player as two* USB Mass Storage removable disks with 98SE (just like it works on Me, 2000 and XP) without having to use that crappy MusicMatch Jukebox. (AKA MusicMunch Junkbox.)*16meg built in RAM plus up to 64meg MMC removable.
Acheron Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Here the registry information for the Sweex 16-in-1 card reader:[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2027\0000001]"Capabilities"=hex:14,00,00,00"HardwareID"="USB\\VID_0DDA&PID_2027&REV_016>,USB\\VID_0DDA&PID_2027""CompatibleIDs"="USB\\CLASS_08&SUBCLASS_06&PROT_50,USB\\CLASS_08&SUBCLASS_06,USB\\CLASS_08""DeviceDesc"="USB 2.0 card reader DEMO board with Generic brand name (MaskROM version)""Class"="USB""Driver"="USB\\0015""DriverVersion"="V2.14""FirmwareBCD"="V016E""Mfg"="GENERIC""ClassGUID"="{36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}""ConfigFlags"=hex:00,00,00,00"Serial"=hex:0e,00,00,00,00,00,00,00"SymbolicName"="\\DosDevices\\000000000000000e#{a5dcbf10-6530-11d2-901f-00c04fb951ed}"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\USB\VID_11F5&PID_0001\0123456789]"Capabilities"=hex:94,00,00,00"HardwareID"="USB\\VID_11F5&PID_0001&REV_0001,USB\\VID_11F5&PID_0001""CompatibleIDs"="USB\\DEVCLASS_00&SUBCLASS_00&PROT_00,USB\\DEVCLASS_00&SUBCLASS_00,USB\\DEVCLASS_00,USB\\COMPOSITE""DeviceDesc"="Samengesteld USB-apparaat""ClassGUID"="{36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}""Class"="USB""Driver"="USB\\0010""Mfg"="(Standaard USB-host-controller)""ConfigFlags"=hex:00,00,00,00"Serial"=hex:09,00,00,00,00,00,00,00"SymbolicName"="\\DosDevices\\0000000000000009#{a5dcbf10-6530-11d2-901f-00c04fb951ed}"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\USBSYS9X\DISK\0000USB&VID_0DDA&PID_2027&0000001]"Capabilities"=hex:00,00,00,00"HardwareID"="USBSYS9X\\DISK""Class"="hdc""Driver"="hdc\\0003""Mfg"="GENERIC""ClassGUID"="{4d36e96a-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}""DeviceDesc"="USB Mass Storage Disk Driver""ConfigFlags"=hex:00,00,00,00
eGo®Z Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 hp38guserit looks like your card reader is "Bulk Only" device,try to add the next strings into the end of appropriate sections of usbstor.inf:[Microsoft]%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2027.DeviceDesc%=USBSTOR_BULK, USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2027[Strings]USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2027.DeviceDesc="USB 2.0 card reader DEMO board with Generic brand name (MaskROM version)"Be sure U have uninstalled original card-reader drivers.Try reboot and check how it works.Of course all the rest hardware in your inf can use another protocols and should be tested also.
niksa Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Here is mirror ftp://ftp.teol.net/drivers/misc/Native_US...n98SE_v2.2e.exeI will do my best to keep it up-to-date
Acheron Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 hp38guserit looks like your card reader is "Bulk Only" device,try to add the next strings into the end of appropriate sections of usbstor.inf:[Microsoft]%USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2027.DeviceDesc%=USBSTOR_BULK, USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2027[Strings]USB\VID_0DDA&PID_2027.DeviceDesc="USB 2.0 card reader DEMO board with Generic brand name (MaskROM version)"Be sure U have uninstalled original card-reader drivers.Try reboot and check how it works.Of course all the rest hardware in your inf can use another protocols and should be tested also.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I now have changed the usbstor.inf in C:\Windows\Inf. Removed device and reinstalled. Now the USB Massstorage driver detects the Card reader properly and it's working now without the USBSYS9X.sys helper driver Why does Windows not detect this Bulk devices automaticly, like XP does? I looked up in the inf's but could not find the difference.
eGo®Z Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 hp38guserthe string%GenericBulkOnly.DeviceDesc%=USBSTOR_BULK, USB\Class_08&SubClass_06&Prot_50in the usbstor.inf means that your drive should be detected, however some devices can't be detected because not always required protocol for the device can be recognized.It looks like XP has better (and of course newest) usbstor.sys driver.And that means also - the devices which are not detected should be described in the usbstor.inf. At least in XP usbstor.inf we also can find some definitions for range of the usb devices - that means XP detects 'em not correctly in auto mode too.By the way i think all devices from Your inf are from "Bulk Only" class,but what's about the property page of your card-reader comparing to the original drivers (i mean storpg98.dll in the original package)?
Acheron Posted May 10, 2005 Posted May 10, 2005 After a reboot the system hangs just as it did without modifications. I think Windows needs the usbstor9x.sys driver for this device as a helper. Thans for helping. I'll test that dll you told about.
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