Tarun Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Using EVEREST Home edition (formerly AIDA32) I've noticed the following problem:Problem Current AGP speed is lower than maximum supported. This may cause performance penalty.Field ValueNorth Bridge Properties North Bridge AMD-750 IrongateMemory Timings CAS Latency (CL) 2TRAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 2TRAS Precharge (tRP) 2TRAS Active Time (tRAS) 5TRow Cycle Time (tRC) 8TError Correction ECC Supported, DisabledChipKill ECC Not SupportedECC Scrubbing Not SupportedMemory Slots DRAM Slot #1 128 MB (SDRAM)DRAM Slot #2 128 MB (SDRAM)AGP Controller AGP Version 1.00AGP Status EnabledAGP Device MSI G4Ti4600 (MS-8872)AGP Aperture Size 64 MBSupported AGP Speeds 1x, 2xCurrent AGP Speed 1xFast-Write Not SupportedSide Band Addressing Supported, EnabledChipset Manufacturer Company Name Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.Product Information http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Develo...252_873,00.htmlDriver Download http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Techni...71_2336,00.htmlProblems & Suggestions Problem Current AGP speed is lower than maximum supported. This may cause performance penalty.This brings me to my two questions.How can I correct the AGP speed issue, making it 2x instead of 1x?Under Error Correction, do I need ECC enabled; if so, how? (Not really critical, would prefer to solve AGP speed issue)Using an AMD Athlon 800MHz with Windows ME, 256MB RAM, 60GB HD, GeForce4 Ti4600 128MB graphics card.I've checked under my BIOS to see what all I need to change, however I saw nothing relating.Field ValueBIOS Properties BIOS Type AMISystem BIOS Date 12/05/99Video BIOS Date 07/31/02BIOS Manufacturer Company Name American Megatrends Inc.Product Information http://www.ami.com/amibiosBIOS Upgrades http://www.esupport.com/biosagent/index.cf...fm?refererid=40Problems & Suggestions Suggestion Are you looking for a BIOS Upgrade? Contact eSupport Today!Suggestion System BIOS is more than 2 years old. Update it if necessary.Suggestion Video BIOS is more than 2 years old. Update it if necessary.If more information is needed I can provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 in your bios. might be in the chipset options not sure, but somewhere in your bios it will ask what mb it is and AGP version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 25, 2004 Author Share Posted November 25, 2004 in your bios. might be in the chipset options not sure, but somewhere in your bios it will ask what mb it is and AGP versionI believe the only thing relating I saw was AGP Aperture Size 64 MB or 256MB, and in fear of messing anything up, I left it alone. Though now that I think about it, on a GeForce4 Ti4600 128MB card, wouldn't 256MB be 2x? If so, why would it say 64MB when 1x would be 128MB?Btw, Msfn is faster than AMD Support forums! Huzzah! Not even 19 reads on the post there. Sad. The forum and the post.Next time I reboot I'll make note of everything in the BIOS to see what I'd need to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekrel Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 AGP Apeture size is just allocated RAM, which is used to store graphics onto when the onbaord graphics card memory becomes full.It should be in your bios somewhere, but I remember someone runing at 4x bus speed, opposed to 8 as they had stability problems with 8, and it didnt effect thier performance much at all.What is the AGP speed rated on the graphics card itselt? Go to your cards tab in Desktop->right click->properties, and it should say in there. Would image it being at least 2 if not 4x, but if it is 1x then the motherboard might just set itself in sync with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 25, 2004 Author Share Posted November 25, 2004 Took a screenshot.Its set as AGP 1x when the motherboard is capable of 2x maximum.This computer is 4 years old. An AMD Athlon 800MHz, 256MB RAM, 60GB HD, GeForce4 Ti4600 128MB graphics card.. Need more info, just tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekrel Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Thats why then, The motherboard is capable of 2 x , but the card is running at 1xbut the Ti4600 is a 8x AGP hmm ill investigate further Edit: took a look around my driver screen, cant see how to change the AGP rate there, I know with ATi you can do that as my m8 has.Edit no2: I remember with my original drivers off my 6800GT's disk, im 90% sure they had an option in them to disable/enable Bus Addressing and also the AGP speed, but dont take my word for it, that was like 5 months ago near enough. Cant see this option in the 66.93 drivers i am using now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 goto www.guru3d.com and download rivatuner, you can enable AGP version and other things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupert86 Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 I had a VIA KX133 (Soltek SL-77KV) w/ similar problem. Then I installed the Hyperion drivers.Find out the chipset drivers on AMD's site (sorry but in too much hurry to give you the link). Usually it is a package of four drivers:1. AGP GART driver.2. IDE controller driver.3. USB controller driver.4. This one I cannot remember .You need the GART driver. Then most probably the 2x mode would switch on by itself. You don't need to tweak things in the BIOS for it. That's because in most branded PCs they think that their users are dumb-asses and don't provide too much settings to the user.P.S: That's the same with my current mobo. Its an ASUS CUSL-L (out of an HP Pavilion xt860), and I bought it (from a garbage store, that is) considering the CUSL-2 was an outstanding overclocker. But oh my! I can't even see the memory timings.And OMG! When I emailed HP to give me some BIOS which allows me some more control they replied that "this machine is meant for home users and.....". Tut, tut, tut. Do they think that a home user would be overclocking or a server admin. Anyway I've outsmarted them and use CPUFSB to OC my 733/133 to 797/145. Although it goes right up to 843/153 w/o any volt-modding (that I can't do given the **** BIOS) but the biult-in Crystal sound fails at that.SO much so for those mobo manufacturers thinking that automation is good. It only adds to our problems. Let it auto but also give us control over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 25, 2004 Author Share Posted November 25, 2004 The EVEREST Home Edition page has an FAQ featuring the question I asked.FAQQ 18: On the Motherboard / Chipset page, the AGP rate is lower than the maximum supported, or even the AGP seems to be completely disabled. How to fix this?A 18: It can be because motherboard chipset drivers have not yet been installed, or the AGP video card in the system is incapable of AGP texturing (e.g. 3Dfx Voodoo Banshee or Voodoo3). Or it's simply a PCI video card. To solve the driver problem, it is recommended to first install the motherboard chipset driver, and after that to install the driver for the video card.I downloaded the AMD chipset drivers, though I think I'll try what they said and reinstall my graphics drivers just in case.I've tried RivaTuner and I honestly didn't like having an extra item in startup. If absolutely necessary I may just use it as a last resort.Last drivers for my computer:Windows 95/98/MeVersion: 61.76Release Date: July 20, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 u can remove it from starting up all the time it overrides bios and windows settings so it can make your pc configed to what you want and its easy to do and with a help file full of guides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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