jcarle Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 I've HEARD of VMware being talked about, I've never much read about it... and for the first time, I'm trying it... and it's....OMG...It's so out of this world cool that I think my head's going to implode from giddyness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prathapml Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 It's a truly divine tool. Well, I've found it useful for these reasons:- testing out unattended installs- virtually using OSes that don't support my newer "real" hardware- It runs on windows and linux, so no matter which OS I am working on atm, I simply start my virtual machine from its defined partition- installing my real usable OS within VMware (on a different partition) and all apps installed and configured (that way, if my host OS goes down I can simply format/re-install host OS and install VMware and open my virtual machine to boot-up into a perfect environment)- setting up a virtual network (run 5 VMs simultaneously, and network them to see what I mean - low cost, and easily test your networking changes as a proto-type before actually carrying it out) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argon007 Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 You can use Microsoft Virtual PC 2004 to test the unattended iso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabriel_buc Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 1 question a bit OT:Is there any virtual machine that can emulate the hardware for MAC OS X ? I would like to test that OS and I know that VMware does not suppot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prathapml Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Emulating a mac on windows - softpear.But keep in mind, that it is painfully slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zprog Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 How about any freeware Virtual machines that allow running Linux on a Windows box? Any of those around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabriel_buc Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Free VM ???? Hmm.. I doubt. VM machines are very complex programs that interact with the hardware at the lowest machine level. So it's **** hard to create such a prog for free.So I don't think there is a free VM around ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zprog Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Well, there's gotta be an open source prog. I mean, look at PearPC! It's free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prathapml Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Well, there's gotta be ....... freeWell, a slight bit of searching right there would have helped:BOCHSThat one is free and open-source. BOCHS is a true emulator, so it is painfully slow - but yes, its there for those who want it. Not remotely as easy nor as powerful as the top 2 Virtual simulation apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcarle Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 I just read that Microsoft bought a VM solution from Connectix a bit of time ago and now they have Microsoft Virtual PC 2004 out as a result of it.My question is, since I'm doing nothing but XP installs, would Virtual PC be better then VMware? Or are they about the same? Or... what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Its different for everyone really. VMWare is about 20-30mins faster than Virtual PC 2004 for me. (MS slowed it down badly since Connectix's Virtual PC 5.2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XtremeMaC Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 @aaron i'm sure u've made more setups that I did so i'm asking did u, in your installs with vpc choose "give full cpu or ram or whatever to vpc?" I think there was an option like that?(ps not calling u stupid or anything just wondering if u tried it or not, bc I didn't have the change to try that, i'm wondering if it actually speeds things up? or was that just give more cpu to the active virtual pc?)tnx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prathapml Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Yes, despite using that option, VPC2004 is slower.VMware is far more full-featured, VPC is very easy to use. That's (sort-of) an immediate noticeable difference. My uA install takes 25 mins to complete on my real machine, 28 mins on VMware, and 80 mins on VPC. And I have integrated the drivers for the Virtual machine in each case. All conditions were similar, HD was fine and de-fragmented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 @aaron i'm sure u've made more setups that I did so i'm asking did u, in your installs with vpc choose "give full cpu or ram or whatever to vpc?" I think there was an option like that?(ps not calling u stupid or anything just wondering if u tried it or not, bc I didn't have the change to try that, i'm wondering if it actually speeds things up? or was that just give more cpu to the active virtual pc?)tnxYeah, it still speeds it up slightly, but its still bad compared to VMWare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfWar Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 They need to get off their butts and add FULL Direct X Support, along with being able to manage the Video RAM...if they did this, we could all use Linux, with VMWare running Windows and have the best of both worlds.WineHq is simply moving way too slow and isn't very reliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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