How to adopt Win7 drivers to Vista ?

[ED_Sln]

9 hours ago, mardunaki said:

or, just in case IDs of missing drivers:

Found all the drivers, for the chipset all drivers are just inf stubs anyway, so should install without problems. I found two drivers for the network card on Vista, they are both from TP-Link, but they should work, it uses a realtek chip anyway. First try TP-Link_6.250.0908.2011 driver, it is newer and the network card will be called simply "Gigabit PCI Express Network Adapter" with no brand name. https://mega.nz/file/6zoXSCCS#MOEY53F1KIDeJhG53P2euw8zKVvOyh8KhXbAn_v4XSA

Try installing the 365.19 driver on your video card through Device Manager.

Edited August 23, 2024 by ED_Sln

[mardunaki]

@ED_Sln thanks, almost all of them installed successful!
relatively acceptable compatibility~ and few are missing.
driver manager didn't find anything reliable to "pci controller simple communications"
LAN driver behaves like it's almost there but wrong one.
tried delete it completely and install from scratch, still nope...

сетевой
PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_79961462&REV_15
шина
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_A13A&SUBSYS_79961462&REV_31

Edited August 23, 2024 by mardunaki

[D.Draker]

On 8/23/2024 at 1:27 AM, ED_Sln said:

Try installing the 365.19 driver on your video card through Device Manager.

365.19 has a very slow performance comparing to 347.90. 365.19 is the point where they started to shift onto Pascal. Try 347.90 yourself, see the difference.

[D.Draker]

15 hours ago, mardunaki said:

driver manager didn't find anything reliable to "pci controller simple communications"

It's Intel telemetry (spying), just disable it. Don't even think to waste your time looking for drivers.

[ED_Sln]

10 hours ago, mardunaki said:

driver manager didn't find anything reliable to "pci controller simple communications"
LAN driver behaves like it's almost there but wrong one.

PCI-controller, I realized, there the necessary IDs only for 7+, I added for all, so the driver signature is gone, when during the installation will write that the driver is not verified, click "install this driver anyway". https://mega.nz/file/rrh0iQYZ#OuPCI6IaqzoFi2jF95PPu6zl9cbJ5yaoewuOTp0OMaQ
On the network card my drivers didn't install at all, because you can see that the system driver is installed, maybe it has a newer date so the system thinks it's the most appropriate. So try installing the driver in fully manual mode: ПКМ на сетевой карте - Обновить драйверы... - Выполнить поиск драйверов на этом компьютере - Выбрать драйвер из списка... - Установить с диска. Дальше указать inf файл драйвера. Try TP-Link_6.250.0908.2011 driver first, if it doesn't install, try another driver. If both fail to install, take screenshots of the error.

6 hours ago, D.Draker said:

365.19 has a very slow performance comparing to 347.90. 

This is Vista after all, it might be a bit different here, I'll check the performance later.

6 hours ago, D.Draker said:

It's Intel telemetry (spying), just disable it. Don't even think to waste your time looking for drivers.

I'm not giving drivers, I'm giving plugs that make it so the Device Manager doesn't show non-installed devices, but there is no driver as such.

[D.Draker]

12 hours ago, ED_Sln said:

I'm not giving drivers, I'm giving plugs that make it so the Device Manager doesn't show non-installed devices, but there is no driver as such.

Yeah, but wouldn't system think it now has a fully functional device and is allowed to communicate with Intel ME through it, no? 

Like OS communicates with BIOS.

[ED_Sln]

10 minutes ago, D.Draker said:

Yeah, but wouldn't system think it now has a fully functional device and is allowed to communicate with Intel ME through it, no? 

No, the device can't work. I can, for example, make the same plug for the network card, and it will appear to be installed, but of course it will not work. If it worked like that, you could "make" drivers for any device on any OS.   Intel ME works at the BIOS level, so it doesn't matter if there is a driver in the OS or not, or even if the OS is installed at all, the motherboard receives signals directly from the network card. But without a driver at least from the OS you can't access, for example, programs.

[D.Draker]

11 hours ago, ED_Sln said:

Intel ME works at the BIOS level, so it doesn't matter if there is a driver in the OS or not, or even if the OS is installed at all, the motherboard receives signals directly from the network card. But without a driver at least from the OS you can't access, for example, programs.

Thanks, that I know, but there's a software driver and Intel ME management interface, isn't it the same as the PCI controller driver, no? 

[D.Draker]

13 hours ago, ED_Sln said:

This is Vista after all, it might be a bit different here, I'll check the performance later.

347.90 is a unique, unlocked developer driver without throttling; I found it a long time ago.

https://msfn.org/board/topic/184793-gtx-980ti-unity-crashes-vista-x64/?do=findComment&comment=1246223

"runs even better it now runs at 240 fps ... before that it would run at 120 to 140 fps"

https://msfn.org/board/topic/184793-gtx-980ti-unity-crashes-vista-x64/?do=findComment&comment=1246209

[ED_Sln]

26 minutes ago, D.Draker said:

Thanks, that I know, but there's a software driver and Intel ME management interface, isn't it the same as the PCI controller driver, no? 

When the driver is there, but I only gave the inf stub, there is no sys file there, look at the contents of the inf, there are sections just to add the correct device name, nothing else.

40 minutes ago, D.Draker said:

"runs even better it now runs at 240 fps ... before that it would run at 120 to 140 fps"

Such fps, it's rare after all. And monitors that support that many Hz are even rarer for those who don't have Win10. And I think it's marketing at all, the human eye can't see more than 85-100 Hz.

[ED_Sln]

Did a driver test, in the Unigine Valley benchmark. Driver 347 does not support GTX950, so I set it as GTX960. As a result, in DX9 and DX11 modes the difference in fps was within the margin of error. The processor is weak, dual-core Athlon, but so far I have no opportunity to test with a more powerful processor.

[mardunaki]

11 hours ago, ED_Sln said:

PCI-controller, I realized, there the necessary IDs only for 7+, I added for all, so the driver signature is gone, when during the installation will write that the driver is not verified, click "install this driver anyway". https://mega.nz/file/rrh0iQYZ#OuPCI6IaqzoFi2jF95PPu6zl9cbJ5yaoewuOTp0OMaQ
On the network card my drivers didn't install at all, because you can see that the system driver is installed, maybe it has a newer date so the system thinks it's the most appropriate. So try installing the driver in fully manual mode: ПКМ на сетевой карте - Обновить драйверы... - Выполнить поиск драйверов на этом компьютере - Выбрать драйвер из списка... - Установить с диска. Дальше указать inf файл драйвера. Try TP-Link_6.250.0908.2011 driver first, if it doesn't install, try another driver. If both fail to install, take screenshots of the error.

This is Vista after all, it might be a bit different here, I'll check the performance later.

I'm not giving drivers, I'm giving plugs that make it so the Device Manager doesn't show non-installed devices, but there is no driver as such.

omg, this is absolute success, heartfelt thank you for your support!!!
for a 10yr old PC performance even better than i had on win1022h2,
a lot less ram usage + amount of running process from the start just halved in comparison to 10

Thanks to all again!

Edited August 24, 2024 by mardunaki

[D.Draker]

11 hours ago, mardunaki said:

omg, this is absolute success, heartfelt thank you for your support!!!
for a 10yr old PC performance even better than i had on win1022h2,
a lot less ram usage + amount of running process from the start just halved in comparison to 10

You're welcome, glad we could help, enjoy your setup!

[ED_Sln]

1 hour ago, mardunaki said:

omg, this is absolute success, heartfelt thank you for your support!!!

You're welcome. Although I'm not an expert on Vista, more on XP and 7, I still follow it and collect drivers, updates and programs. Glad to be of help.
By the way, I noticed that the icons and buttons on MSFN are not showing up, you need to install Fontawesome fonts, then the icons will show up.

https://fontawesome.com/v4/assets/font-awesome-4.7.0.zip

Edited August 24, 2024 by ED_Sln

[D.Draker]

17 hours ago, ED_Sln said:

fps was within the margin of error.

With all nVidia officially distributed drivers, I noticed they start to throttle after some time spent in a game, Perhaps, they simply don't want to exchange bad cards, if they go kaput under load? Anyways, Guru3d is a somewhat good source.

Giving a link just as an example.

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/nvidia-please-read-major-drop-in-performance-with-new-drivers-446-14-vs-460-79-benchmarks.435665/