NoelC Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Today a big list of optional updates showed up. Reading the KB articles seems to imply that they're all relatively small bugfixes (sometimes bugfixes of previous bugfixes) or slight feature improvements. But they're mostly quite vague. Not that bugfixes aren't usually welcome, but what's up with this? Usually bugfixes get "rolled up" into bigger packages. Is Microsoft trying to drive home the thought that we don't really want to be managing updates microscopically, and therefore will start to welcome the "hands off" approach Windows 10 is delivering? What worries me is that they're optional. Have they been tested less? How can we really know whether it would be beneficial or detrimental to install such optional updates? I don't really know whether most folks always install all the optional ones or never do... -Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 WIMBOOT Systems are the cause. Microsoft runs into servicing issues with WIMBOOT (reason why it gets removed in Win10): To save drive space, we’ve limited offering only the following types of updates from Windows Update to WIMBoot devices with 32GB or less of storage space: Critical updates that keep the system or programs running. Security updates and security advisory updates. https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn594399.aspx And the large updates don't supersede each other all time, so disk usage grows and DISM can't cleanup WinSxS. With smaller updates, the chances are higher that newer fixes replace older ones, so that DISM can remove them to keep Windows smaller. Btw, update KB3022345 (Update to enable the Diagnostics Tracking Service in Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2) fails to install on NON en-US Windows versions. Microsoft forgot to add MUI files for other languages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 WIMBOOT Systems are the cause. Microsoft runs into servicing issues with WIMBOOT (reason why it gets removed in Win10):... And the large updates don't supersede each other all time, so disk usage grows and DISM can't cleanup WinSxS. With smaller updates, the chances are higher that newer fixes replace older ones, so that DISM can remove them to keep Windows smaller....Which translates nicely, in my perverted mind into:since an interesting, new, very valid and proved to be working flawlessly technology conflicts with an old, wrong, stupid update method, the former is removed and the latter (due to some of it's inherent shortcomings and more generally to the lack of a proper method in creating the updates) is dumbed down (if possible at all) and made more complex and error prone for the user.Fascinating as my friend Mr. Spock would define it. Btw, update KB3022345 (Update to enable the Diagnostics Tracking Service in Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2) fails to install on NON en-US Windows versions. Microsoft forgot to add MUI files for other languages.Compliments to the MS "Internationalizing Team" I mean jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelC Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) Several of those optional updates might affect me, though I've not seen any actual problems. Other than that one (KB3022345) that's reported to be problematic, I've tested them all in a VM without problems, and so I've just gone ahead and installed them on my workstation. KB3022345 specifically I've avoided installing and hidden instead as I don't see any advantage for me in Microsoft collecting data about functional issues in Windows components from my systems. I think it's ridiculous that they publish what looks like an entire page of documentation, but which really only contains a couple of vague sentences. All the rest is boilerplate. -Noel Edited April 23, 2015 by NoelC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) It's been suggested here to manually download and install the update in your specific language.Unfortunately there is no download for different flavours of English, so that's no help to me as my system is UK English, on which it's failing, both from WU and from a manual install! I suppose I could try temporarily changing the system to US English, installing the patch, and then switching back again!What a PITA...... Edited April 23, 2015 by Dave-H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 It looks like KB3022345 may have been pulled.Even though it didn't install, I'm no longer being offered it as an optional update.Presumably a fixed version is on its way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelC Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 Do you know that you want KB3022345, beyond the general principle (which is being called more and more into question lately) that Microsoft knows best what you need? For what it's worth, I've been running all the other optional updates noted above for 3 days now without downside. -Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Me too.I'm not at all worried about KB3022345, especially as it's now no longer being offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Another six optional updates this evening.All installed OK, a replacement KB3022345 did not seem to be among them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 What's happened to the rest of this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelC Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 I think it must have been deemed spam by the mods. It was a guy trying to sell a disk compression solution. If you'd like to talk about improving Windows performance, please start a thread. It's a subject that interests me greatly. -Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Hmm, that does make sense, but I'm still getting e-mail notifications (two this morning) of new posts to this thread, which when I follow the link in the e-mail, they're not there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 And again this afternoon!I guess they are being immediately removed.Certainly that removes all doubt about the messages being spam, they are all identical, but all apparently posted by different people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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