Sad Story From Canada ... The Way Things Are Today

[vinifera]

I won't stay out of this thread

and your answers are purely personal and out of line rude as I never attacked someone personaly

and how the f you dare to pretend to know my age ? eh ?

we obviously live in different countries with different standard and thus different people's behaving

and I take worst one as real life while you take some virtual utopian society laws as reality

why don't you dive up your head out of sand and look around you a bit

world doesn't contain only civilized nations and/or people

Edited April 29, 2014 by vinifera

[bphlpt]

why don't you dive up your head out of sand and look around you a bit

world doesn't contain only civilized nations and/or people

If you are saying that you are not civilized then I won't disagree.

You might be correct that stuff left at cemeteries is fair game and is not legally protected, I really do not know. You are correct that different countries/states/localities might have different laws, and I don't know whether the cemetery is considered private property or not, etc. And Flasche's post demonstrates that laws can be strange things. But whether something is strictly legal should not be the only test for whether someone should act a certain way. If everyone was as disrespectful, thoughtless or lacked human decency as described in the first post then the world would truly be sad and less civilized, which I think was the whole point of this thread.

Even if you "take worst one as real life", does that mean you want it that way?

Cheers and Regards

Edited April 29, 2014 by bphlpt

[larryb123456]

@bphlpt:

+1

excellent summarizing statement

[vinifera]

Even if you "take worst one as real life", does that mean you want it that way?

did I wrote that somewhere ?

[larryb123456]

Yes, vinifera, you wrote it in your last post at

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/171650-sad-story-from-canada-the-way-things-are-today/?p=1076332

[larryb123456]

@vinifera:

Please don't be embarrassed about forgetting today what you wrote yesterday.

For we all suffer from occasional memory lapses.

Example:

One of my favorite quotes -- (and this is an *exact quote*) -- by Socrates (FYI, 470/469 BC - 399BC, a Greek philosopher):

"Hey dudes, I be so effin smart, that not even I, the great, infallible Socrates, can remember all of them stuffs that I be writin'."

a very recent picture of Socrates

Edited May 2, 2014 by larryb123456

[vinifera]

nope

you misunderstood what I wanted to say

or I wrote it wrong

what I meant to say, that I "understand" what worst can happen on X places coz I live in f-up-ed soicety

but to his answer, no I didn't wrote that I want things to be like that (who sane would)

[ROTS]

It is a grave, that is in the middle of a giant,wide spread open park................................What more could be said about that. Imagine walking into a park to play a game of ball, and you discover the entire park is a grave site.

Even if it was a cemitary, the person is passed away, they are no longer alive. I know, the idea of giving somebody something, gifts, or anything at a grave site, but seriously, they are passed away. I have seen funerals, after funerals, and stories, ( from the one I told ), where families are ready to take anything they could find like wolves. Their is nothing wrong with that, to be honest.

If I was homeless, and somebody left food for the dead, I wouldn't be afraid to take it. If I was younger, and did not really so much, I would take it. But now I have alot of stuff, in my life, I don't really care, for things like that.

Recently, I will admit, I have seen such open graves. A woman in my area, keep setting up, here sons memorial grave sight. Every year it is something else. She keeps doing it over and over, with expensive to cheap decorations, and stuff like that. I keep saying to myself, to take something, but then again the same stuff is cheap rubbish, and I could buy it in a store, but I will admit, if I was that poor, I wouldn't mind doing so. Because I do pick up things from outside, but I haven't taken from one of those memorial things yet.

I will be honest, that is just plain stupid, and naive to put a grave in the middle of a park. On paper it looks like a cute idea, but with the cross and everything it is a terrible idea. You remember that movie called "Toys" where the Elephant monument was put up, in the middle of nowhere, and it even floated, and blew bubbles? That was on the land they own, a big private area. But I understand the parents, I would do the same thing, for whatever reasons and all. Kinda depressing.

Also this is Canada, and while we are dealing with peoples bodies and all, I am kinda too fed up, with the anti-internet-privacy parade, people are having. I am not going to go into that rant in this thread. Yes that is soughta wrong, and all we really know is the camera caught "one" and only "one" of the people. Again it is in a park, in a great big open wide space, A park. I mean so what. Next the will be ticketing people, for this kind of stuff, for fun. All we need is to no believe in god anymore, tear down all the graves ( sicking idea ), and make a soy lent green factory. That is where these things are going. By that time, a huge procentile of the population wlll be helpless enough to allow such things to occur. I mean why not, look at the privacy issues we are having, no respect their, so what is the difference between the dead..........Nobody has no respect, nobody cares about anybody's right, we smash one cog, and the whole machine will go down, they do say... ( I just made that last line up ).

Like Omgsh, a person, who is no longer among the living grave is robbed, lets take away more peoples, rights. Omgsh, my kids could never do such a thing, omgsh.... anybody cares about the right to be left alone, or the right to privacy, or freedom of speech. Omgsh......grave robbery, fat obease woman walks by and takes funny big bird doll, and it gets even more heartless, asides the news ranting and ignoring real news.

Stealing from peoples graves is not a nice thing, but it is not the ultimate wrong that, has been done. If I was the parent, would I be upset? No, you know why? Because my child is gone, just leave me alone, don't disturb their "final" resting spot, and leave me alone. Then again this parent, has attachment, as if her child is still alive, so it is kinda hard to think that way.

Speaking of which, my uncle had his son, who passed away. He never forgot about it at all, and he even tried to take his life, with cigarettes, and ignoring danger of everything around him. Yes it is unforgivable, but this woman, put her child in everybody's face. Everybody going to know her kid, for a while or a long time, by the end of this. They might even pass some kind of r-tard law as well.

Edited May 3, 2014 by ROTS