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Strange Redundant Error Reports _ Application Data Loop

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Still have XP on my boot partition.
Win7 installed to an extended partition (same hdd). Both 32 bit.
Working with only one win7 account for now -- the admin -- to keep simple as possible.
And there is only one account if I log on ' off.

In process of transferring apps ' settings to win7.
Tried to do reg imports into current user, but not picked up by win7.
Tried a theme from MS site, but installed in
I:\Users\PC\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Themes
not in I:\Windows\Resources\Themes

Was having trouble with one app in win7 (not imprtant, will junk it) so did a search on win7 partition and got this bazarr result of redudnent entries -- see pic.
And that is just for one error report.
This is the kind of junk I would include in a batch file cleaner, but there is obviously something wrong here.

This all seems really scitzoid.
Did I do something to my win7 install that needs to be fixed?
Any clues?
Thanks

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WHAT exactly is that screenshot?

I.e. HOW exactly did you produce it?

What do you mean by "did a search on win7 partition and got this bazarr result of redudnent entries"?

What do you mean by "error report"?

I mean, are those directories that were actually created on that partition/volume?

jaclaz

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Oppened the win7 root (I) and used the search box in upper right corner of that root window.
Searched for that app and got the result pictured (details view of search results).
Better pic uploaded showing the folder column of details view.
I was trying to keep the pic small -- sorry for the lack of detail.

I assumed that WER folder is for Windows Error Reporting (WER).

Yes all on that volume -- hopefully better pic will show this.

Thanks

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This pic is the left side of some of the same search results:

Also attached one of the Report.wer files and they all appear to be the same (if created at same time).

Added txt ext to be able to attach here.

Thanks

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I'm new to win7, so sorry if this is normal for this OS.

Mentioned the stuff about number of users, reg imports, and themes since didn't know if relevant.

Just trying NOT to get off to a messed up start with win7

Thanks

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Good :).

Is it possible that all that "matrioschka" folders are due to some (cannot say which) incompatibility of that app (or it's install routine, or both :ph34r:) with "links"?

Starting with Vista :ph34r: MS started using - often in a senseless way - hard links or junctions that I believe can lead to that sort of "loops".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_folder

The data that on Windows 2000 and XP would go to:

%USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Application Data

since Vista should go to:

%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local

and to keep compatibility with older programs in Vista and later a folder %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Application Data is a junction to %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local

See:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-files/windows-7-infinite-loop-while-using-robocopy/20f32f0c-4cb9-4125-923d-6a57e4d27232

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/278262-mklink-create-use-links-windows.html

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-files/multiple-nested-copies-of-application-data-folder/0617cfb6-dd06-4cb6-874d-0cec97d3a310

http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/115149-stop-application-data-folder-replicating.html

Basically you :ph34r: or the specific app or *something* else is likely to have modified the permissions on that junction and some programs create that "loop", you should be able to solve the issue "manually" or using JunctionBox:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/junctionbox/

jaclaz

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Was wondering why I kept getting shuffled from one shortcut to another -- with some needing "ownership".

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/278262-mklink-create-use-links-windows.html
A Link is basically nothing more than a shortcut. Its purpose is to get Windows to think that a file or folder which is physically located in folder Real on drive A is in fact in folder Fake on drive B by creating a link between B:\Fake (a link or junction) and A:\Real (a target folder). Opening the link for instance in Explorer shows contents of target, saving a document to link actually saves it on target.

As Windows now gets a query from user to open B:\Fake this query is sent to A:\Real. In reality the location B:\Fake does not exist but system answers this query as it was a real folder instead of just a symbolic link and presents user the contents of A:\Real as if it was contents of B:\Fake. Sounds complicated? Don’t worry, it’s quite easy in fact.

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Was wondering why I kept getting shuffled from one shortcut to another -- with some needing "ownership".

The explanation, though "convoluted" is in this thread:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-files/multiple-nested-copies-of-application-data-folder/0617cfb6-dd06-4cb6-874d-0cec97d3a310

In order to accomplish the proper redirection, you need two junctions:

1) A Local Settings junction, that will forward programs going to

%userprofile%\Local Settings to the new folder.

2) An Application Data junctions *inside of the new folder* that points back on itself, to get programs accessing %userprofile%\LocalSettings\Application Data.

If you think about it, it makes sense ... when the program is accessing local settings, it will get forwarded to the folder it needs to be in, however, it is also accessing a folder named Application Data *inside of the correct folder it needs* (since it has already been redirected by the Local Settings junction), so the Application Data junction has to point back on itself for things to function properly.

Maybe these explain it better:

http://spantechonline.com/wp/?p=69

http://wordlinks.wordpress.com/2010/10/30/solved-appdatalocalapplicaton-dataapplication-data-repeating-recursion/

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/ee851567.aspx

http://www.svrops.com/svrops/articles/jpoints.htm

jaclaz

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Those first links were great.

Thanks for addititional links.

This is a good thing to discover early on in one's win7 usage.

Looks like win8 is the same way.

Thanks again.

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Great Tip:

A quick way to find and open the real folder you are looking for is to do a search for that folder.

All the "links" to that folder will show up in the search, plus the real thing.

Right drag a shortcut of the real thing (in the search results) to wherever you want to have real access to that folder from.

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Great Tip:

A quick way to find and open the real folder you are looking for is to do a search for that folder.

All the "links" to that folder will show up in the search, plus the real thing.

Right drag a shortcut of the real thing (in the search results) to wherever you want to have real access to that folder from.

A good idea where Junctions or Symbolic links are involved, is to use the nice Nirsoft thingie NTFSLinksView here:

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/ntfs_links_view.html

jaclaz

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A good idea where Junctions or Symbolic links are involved, is to use the nice Nirsoft thingie NTFSLinksView here:

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/ntfs_links_view.html

jaclaz

Thanks for the link. Another great little app from Nirsoft.

At least you didn't end up with 2 C:\Users dirs...

MS had to have known that ppl would want access to those locations and do the next logical thing.

Maybe MS meant this as kind of a practical joke...

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