j7n Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) Ever since I rebooted my always on Windows XP PC, it disappeared from the Windows Network under the hostname I had previously assigned to it. It has likely to do with a setting on the PC itself, which I adjusted days before taking the computer offline. I have some "SMB" shares accessed from this PC by the name, which are now invalid. The Windows Network has a mind of its own... It works without setting it up, and then stops working. I would like to avoid this category of problems with Windows Netowork altogether, by switcing to DNS for name resolution. This should in theory allow me to move the PC elsewhere, change its IP, and still have the shares work fine. DNS is running on my router, which all computers use. Problem: I cannot use the DNS hostname to open a network share at all. IP services like FTP are working fine. I can ping the host. I can use \\192.168.1.17 in the address bar to load the shares, but cannot use \\studijaex. I've also tried a multi-part hostname, and ending with a period. All computers are running Windows XP. \\hostname doesn't work on any of them. Edited February 11, 2014 by j7n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 If I'm not mistaken, the hostname as used in that case is a NetBIOS name.So we might need more information regarding the network topography. Is this a domain or a workgroup? What is the DHCP server? What is the DNS server?Can you connect to the share by using \\192.168.1.17 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j7n Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 Yes, I can connect using the IP address 192.168.1.17. Computers have static IP addresses; and belong to Workgroup "J7NH".Computer A, connected to router's port 1, and has static address 192.168.1.17C:\>ipconfig /allWindows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : studijaex Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . :Ethernet adapter Onboard Marvell Yukon: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E GigabitEthernet Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-E6-87-ED-4B Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.17 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254C:\>tracert 192.168.3.5Tracing route to b75m [192.168.3.5]over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms 1 ms 1 ms router.j7nh [192.168.1.254] 2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms b75m [192.168.3.5]Trace complete.Computer B, connected to router's port 3, address given by DHCP 192.168.3.5D:\Users\Administrator>ipconfig /allWindows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : B75M Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . :Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : j7nh Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 94-DE-80-6D-7D-4A Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.3.5 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.3.254 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.3.254 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.3.254 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : trediena, 2014. gada 12. februārī 19:09:14 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : sestdiena, 2014. gada 22. februārī 19:09:14D:\Users\Administrator>tracert 192.168.1.17Tracing route to studijaex [192.168.1.17]over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms router.j7nh [192.168.3.254] 2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms studijaex [192.168.1.17]Trace complete.I've entered hostnames into the router. They're used during ping ^, but cannot be used to access Network Shares (I previously assumed they were). I'd like to be able to open the remote computer by typing its name. Probably, until the reboot, it was the identical NetBIOS name that was used. And NetBIOS is no longer working."NetBIOS over TCP/IP" was Default on computer B, when the problem occurred. I set it to Disabled, thinking it would cause to prefer DNS. Doesn't work either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Is there a reason why one is static and the other isn't? It would be preferrable to have both static. Or at least set a DHCP reservation for the one that isn't so that it always gets the same IP. Then what you can do is use the LMHOSTS file to set the names to IPs and NetBIOS should work better.I am reading that resolution works as such:NetBIOS name cache WINS server B-node broadcast LMHOSTS file HOSTS file DNS serverhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/142309So right away you can see where a major problem can happen. If the first place to look is the local cache, and the destination PC is on a dynamic IP, then there is a good possibility that the IP is out of date in there. Also it seems that you could use either the HOSTS or LMHOSTS file to set your information but the LMHOSTS file was designed specifically for NetBIOS.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/102725If you want to clear out errorneous data in your NetBIOS cache you can use nbstat:http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc784285%28v=ws.10%29.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j7n Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 I have assigned the IP of "B" (the "client") via a static lease. I created a LMHOSTS file (there was none except the sample) and entered the host name and ip there. This makes shares accessible under that name. I am still puzzled as to why everything worked without it before. From another computer running Windows 2000 I can access \\studijaex without lmhosts. I created several A records on the DNS ("test1", "test2.j7nh", "test9"), all pointing at 192.168.1.17, and they all correctly open the network shares from the Windows 2000 computer, but neither of my two XP computers, nor in fact the "server" itself (also running XP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j7n Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 After directed to look at the NetBIOS name as a separate one, and at hosts files on the clients, I think I have figured out the problem. The issue wasn't to do with name resolution at all, which worked correctly all the time. I used a packet sniffer to look at the connection. The "client" receives the correct IP address, establishes a connection to the Direct-SMB port 445, exchanges a few packets, and drops the connection. The Windows 2000 computer which worked, used NetBIOS over TCP ports 137-139 to connection to the shares, and did not use port 445 at all. Windows 2000 and XP can be configured to use NetBIOS, by setting SMBDeviceEnabled to 0, but will default to Direct-SMB. I did enable SMB a few weeks ago, and forgot about it. That was a bad decision. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NetBT\Parameters\SMBDeviceEnabledSomehow the NetBIOS "computer name" of my "server" was set to "17-studijaex", different from what I had in the DNS. Apparently Windows shares only respond to their own hostname, kinda like a vhost in a webserver. I replaced all references of this old name, restarted the computer, and now DirectSMB also works. To make sure, I forwarded port 445 for a single host on the Internet and tried accessing the shares in three ways: by Internet IP - works by j7n.....hostname for the same IP - failure by "studijaex" added to hosts file - works I didn't have a DNS server there to test; but it would would probably work too. This name matching doesn't serve any purpose for security, but that is how it is. 1) NetBIOS over TCP/IP - enabled for the network connection - SMBDeviceEnabled = 0 Works over LAN with any hostname. 2) Direct-SMB - SMBDeviceEnabled = 1 - NetBIOS can be disabled Works over LAN or the Internet if the hostname matches the remote computer name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Thanks for sharing your solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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