Mim0 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I'm asking me what the Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT) has to do with accessing Windows Update. Can anybody confirm that this is correct, that MSRT is needed for Windows online-updates? (I've no experience with MS-online-updates.)Otherwise I would change my list so that MSRT is listed as an optional update.Regards, Mimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiki Burgh Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) hi Mim0! afaik, this has nothing to do with windows update for it is basically an anti-virus of sort ... mbsa 2.1 would be more likely to fit the bill as Security updates are determined by the current version of MBSA using the Windows Update Agent present on Windows computers ... & it serves as... security management process by using MBSA to detect common security misconfigurations and missing security updates on your computer systems & i have it in HFSVCPACK_SW1. cheers! Edited January 12, 2010 by Kiki Burgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Not required but listed as a high-priority update each patch tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mim0 Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) THX for clarification! @KikiWhy do you have it in HFSVCPACK_SW1?Mimo Edited January 12, 2010 by Mim0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin H Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 @Mim0Hi! I'm pretty sure Kiki was reffering to mbsa(msi), when he said that he had it in HFSVCPACK_SW1... (which isn't required for WU either...)Anyway, nice work on your list! Personally, then i would rather have used the terminology which msft themselves uses for the updates i.e. 'High-priority' and 'Optional' (In the old days it where 'Critical' and 'Recommended'), as you e.g. lists some updates as 'Optional', which are marked on WU as 'High-priority', but it's your decision of course...CU, Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiki Burgh Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Why do you have it in HFSVCPACK_SW1?Hi! I'm pretty sure Kiki was reffering to mbsa(msi), when he said that he had it in HFSVCPACK_SW1... (which isn't required for WU either...)on the dot on 2 counts Martin H. i only mentioned about mbsa for more or less comparison's sake & a little additional info ... cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mim0 Posted January 13, 2010 Author Share Posted January 13, 2010 @Kiki&MartinOK, it was MBSA. Thx! ...Personally, then i would rather have used the terminology which msft themselves uses for the updates i.e. 'High-priority' and 'Optional' (In the old days it where 'Critical' and 'Recommended'), as you e.g. lists some updates as 'Optional', which are marked on WU as 'High-priority', but it's your decision of course...Under 'High-priority' on WU there are Security-updates but also "other" updates (e.g. WGA). Security-updates has their own severity (written in the security bulletin) and not 'High-priority' in general.My list differentiate only security updates (Security-Bulletins and Security-Advisories) and other (optional) updates. I didn't want to classify the other updates (other than Security-Bulletins and Security-Advisories) because what is the meaning of 'High-priority'? What kind of priority? Of course to install WGA is in the sense of Microsoft but I cannot represent that classification! So everybody must decide what kind of non-security-updates shall be installed in her/his system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyp Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 For what it's worth, WU just looks for the existance of mrt.exe in sys32.exe to be satisified that the MRT tool is installed. This is why I consider this non-essential. Yea, I know hard drives are cheap now, but I don't see the point of just having a file there taking up space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin H Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 [...]what is the meaning of 'High-priority'? What kind of priority?msft uses the terminology 'High-priority' for security updates + critical non-security updates, and 'Optional' for non-security non-critical updates... Personally, then i would want all the security updates no matter what their severity rating and then also the critical non-security updates, and then of-cource i'd have to use my brain as to avoid 'High-priority' marked updates as WGA-N and MRT etc. My point was just that your list e.g. labels KB967715 as 'Optional', while that update on WU is listed 'High-priority' and not 'Optional', which makes for confussion IMHO. That update disables autorun for network drives(only!), which was suppossed to be done by Windows by default, but msft screwed up... (disabling autorun dosen't fix it either!)Anyway, it's your list and your choise, so just continue using your terminology if that feels best for you! CU, Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 For what it's worth, WU just looks for the existance of mrt.exe in sys32.exe to be satisified that the MRT tool is installed. This is why I consider this non-essential. Yea, I know hard drives are cheap now, but I don't see the point of just having a file there taking up space.Actually, it looks for a GUID in the registry. It changes each patch tuesday and can be found here.This is for nLite and will suppress the appearance on WU. I'm not sure how HFSLIP works and whether it allows you to add reg edits.[general]builddate=2010/01/12description=Malicious Software Removal Toollanguage=Englishtitle=KB890830version=3.3website=http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890830[registry_addreg]HKLM,SOFTWARE\Microsoft\RemovalTools\MRT,"EULA2",0x10001,1HKLM,SOFTWARE\Microsoft\RemovalTools\MRT,"Version",,"ED3205FC-FC48-4A39-9FBD-B0035979DDFF" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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