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The Solution for Seagate 7200.11 HDDs

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Today I asked for more information about the HDD (girlfriend's) and I knew that originally had the 0 LBA problem. Her brother updated the HDD with the latest firmware (as suggested by seagate software) and... BSY born! :}

Hmmm. :unsure:

I doubt that you can update the firmware of a drive in LBA0 state. (or even if it is *possible* is one of - no offence intended to the guy that surely did this in perfect good faith - the most absurd attempts I ever heard of :ph34r:).

And allow me to also doubt that "Seagate software" can analyze a LBA0 disk drive and "suggest" a firmware upgrade.

jaclaz

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Hello, I'm new to Forum, even I read this and other topics couple of days ago i still have a problem with my Seagate with this firmware. So let me explain, and i will appreciate any help and info You could give me. So..... i did steps in this guide to 'unbrick' this stupid firmware of Seagate, but i have problem with communication to my HDD, i can not get any prompt when press ctrl+z, i tried swapping RX TX and i got controller(MAX3232) which can work under 3.3v and 5v and still do not have luck. I have really important data that i need to copy. I have Seagate ST3100034as 7200.11 sd15 OEM(maybe that is a problem? OEM version?) HDD , and i think i got that BSY bug, because HDD is not recognized in BIOS, and red led lamp is flashing non stop until BIOS move to boot other HDD. Please tell me if there is any chance that i can communicate to HDD or serial communication can not be established with this OEM HDD!?!?!?

Loop tests was successful!!

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Hello, I'm new to Forum, even I read this and other topics couple of days ago i still have a problem with my Seagate with this firmware. So let me explain, and i will appreciate any help and info You could give me. So..... i did steps in this guide to 'unbrick' this stupid firmware of Seagate, but i have problem with communication to my HDD, i can not get any prompt when press ctrl+z, i tried swapping RX TX and i got controller(MAX3232) which can work under 3.3v and 5v and still do not have luck. I have really important data that i need to copy. I have Seagate ST3100034as 7200.11 sd15 OEM(maybe that is a problem? OEM version?) HDD , and i think i got that BSY bug, because HDD is not recognized in BIOS, and red led lamp is flashing non stop until BIOS move to boot other HDD. Please tell me if there is any chance that i can communicate to HDD or serial communication can not be established with this OEM HDD!?!?!?

Loop tests was successful!!

From my opinion you have a problem with controller not with HDD.Have you tried to connect TX with RX?If you haven't even than reply on Hiperterminal,for shure your controller not work.

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Hi GuyZ one's again...i need a help with bricked seagate with update on new MooseDT-SD1A-2D-8-16-32MB firmware.My mistake...I had a HDD (ST3500320AS fw SD15) that worked,after i upgrade on SD1A ,0LBA error occurred.As I read a post here from guys with similar problem ...I downgrade to AD14 and fix that error and upgrade again to SD1A but... Now i have recognized HDD 500Gb but when i attach him with other one where is my sys ..PC cant pick up Windows (loop).Please help.Tnx

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Now i have recognized HDD 500Gb but when i attach him with other one where is my sys ..PC cant pick up Windows (loop).Please help.Tnx

Try describing your issue in more detail, as is it is not understandable (by me at least).

jaclaz

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After update with SD1A,my HDD in post was 0 LBA,than i downgrade to SD14 and fix this.procedure was:

F3 T>

F3 T>/2 (enter)
F3 2>

Wait about 20 seconds, then spin down the motor:

F3 2>Z (enter)

Spin Down Complete

F3 2>

remove the cardstock

F3 2>U (enter)

Spin Up Complete

F3 2>

Next go to Level 1 (type /1):

F3 2>/1 (enter)

And do a S.M.A.R.T. erase (create S.M.A.R.T. sector):

F3 1>N1 (enter)

When the prompt comes back up, turn off power to the hard drive, wait a few seconds, then turn it back on. Wait about 20 seconds, then finally do partition regeneration:

F3 T>m0,2,2,0,0,0,0,22 (enter)

I evan try this: F3 1>/T (enter)

F3 T>i4,1,22 (enter)

F3 T>m0,2,2,0,0,0,0,22 (enter)

I have never received a reported error

When i attach HDD with one where is my sys (windows xp),i cant pick up windows..i evan try to fresh install windows on this HDD.In install process he has been recognized but..when try to format him..process stay at 0%.

EDIT: by both ,sd1a(downgrade to ad14 ..repair ..upgrade to sd1a) or ad14 (repair and stay on ad14) i cant pick up windows

HDD label:

7200.11

ST3500320AS

S/N:9QM0TEG0

P/N:9BX154-303

Firmw.:SD15

Date code:08316

Site code:KRATSG

Thailand

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The ONLY things that should be done after an unbricking are:

  1. image the disk/save the data (if needed)
  2. run the Seagate tests, BOTH the short and the long one

if any of the two tests fail, throw the stupid disk in the dustbin.

jaclaz

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The ONLY things that should be done after an unbricking are:

  1. image the disk/save the data (if needed)
  2. run the Seagate tests, BOTH the short and the long one

if any of the two tests fail, throw the stupid disk in the dustbin.

jaclaz

Can i run sea tools without windows?

tnx for replay!

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From my opinion you have a problem with controller not with HDD.Have you tried to connect TX with RX?If you haven't even than reply on Hiperterminal,for shure your controller not work.

Controller is working fine, loop tests on controller was successful.

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Controller is working fine, loop tests on controller was successful.

Well, no. :(

Meaning that you posted about having a converter (it is not a controller) based on MAX232 and capable of doing BOTH the "low" and the "high" TTL levels.

(historically 90% - say - of converters based on a MAX232 are ONLY "high" level TTL)

IF - for any reason - that converter works at the "high" TTL level, a loopback test will work alright, BUT it won't be EVER capable of "talking" to the disk.

You have to make SURE that your converter is actually designed to work at the "low" TTL levels AND that is working at those levels.

Please check again the Read-me-first:

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/143880-seagate-barracuda-720011-read-me-first/

particularly point #6

And/or post a link to the specifications of the actual converter you are using or schematics (if autobuilt).

jaclaz

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Controller is working fine, loop tests on controller was successful.

Well, no. :(

Meaning that you posted about having a converter (it is not a controller) based on MAX232 and capable of doing BOTH the "low" and the "high" TTL levels.

(historically 90% - say - of converters based on a MAX232 are ONLY "high" level TTL)

IF - for any reason - that converter works at the "high" TTL level, a loopback test will work alright, BUT it won't be EVER capable of "talking" to the disk.

You have to make SURE that your converter is actually designed to work at the "low" TTL levels AND that is working at those levels.

Please check again the Read-me-first:

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/143880-seagate-barracuda-720011-read-me-first/

particularly point #6

And/or post a link to the specifications of the actual converter you are using or schematics (if autobuilt).

jaclaz

ok i do not understand completely what i actually need to have, so this is what i bought, please look at this documents and tell me if this controller(to correct myself) can communicate with hdd>http://www.mikroe.com/downloads/get/1509/max3232_manual_v100.pdf http://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/MAX3222-MAX3241.pdf

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It is seemingly the "wrong" type of converter.

Compare with:

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/128807-the-solution-for-seagate-720011-hdds/page-163#entry988633

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/128807-the-solution-for-seagate-720011-hdds/page-108#entry915966

Particularly check this (also linked in the read-me-first):

http://www.interfacebus.com/voltage_threshold.html

The seagate disk - for all we know - uses TTL, i.e. it understands anything between 2.0 and 3.3 V as a "high" and anything between 0.35V and 0.8 V as a "low" (and emiits the same signal levels), if your converter, as I believe uses instead TTL/CMOS levels, the "highs" can be higher that 3.3V and the disk will NOT understand them (the lows should not be a problem).

If you bought it, ask the vendor about which EXACT TTL levels (NOT the Vcc voltage at which it can be powered and from which a device can be powered) the converter uses, since this:

http://www.mikroe.com/downloads/get/1509/max3232_manual_v100.pdf

seems like a "simple" circuit I believe that it is NOT a "variable" one (but it could be :unsure:).

HOW EXACTLY are you powering that converter?

jaclaz

P.S.: Maybe you can get away with a 2.2 kOhm resistor:

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/128807-the-solution-for-seagate-720011-hdds/page-141#entry956029

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Milos87, on 19 Dec 2013 - 6:05 PM, said: ......

ok i do not understand completely what i actually need to have, so this is what i bought, please look at this documents and tell me if this controller(to correct myself) can communicate with hdd>http://www.mikroe.com/downloads/get/1509/max3232_manual_v100.pdf

..................................................................................

This converter must work...i have similar and work fine.Only u have to add external power source (i use two AA bateries=about 3V)

But...i think i know what is your problem...

How start communication with HDD?Write us when all connect and open HyperTerminal what write or do?

Edited by marty1234

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Milos87, on 19 Dec 2013 - 6:05 PM, said: ......

ok i do not understand completely what i actually need to have, so this is what i bought, please look at this documents and tell me if this controller(to correct myself) can communicate with hdd>http://www.mikroe.com/downloads/get/1509/max3232_manual_v100.pdf

..................................................................................

This converter must work...i have similar and work fine.Only u have to add external power source (i use two AA bateries=about 3V)

But...i think i know what is your problem...

How start communication with HDD?Write us when all connect and open HyperTerminal what write or do?

Ej druze, ja sam iz Srbije :) javi mi se na mail da podelimo skype kontakt ako mislis da znas sta je problem(gare1987@ymail.com)

@Others and @jaclaz operational range for this controller to work is 3.3v to 5v and it is same controller as 232 but 232 have operational range from 5v and up to(i think) 12v, so in theory communication should work with HDD with 3.3v and with 5v, i tried each voltage.

I powered connector from my PSU, i got first time wire from 3.3v and no luck with communication, and second time wire with 5v. Controller was connected with laptop through USB-Serial port cable, so i can use my PSU only for powering HDD and Controler.

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